CMP M1 Carbines?
Has anyone heard or does anyone really know what is going on with the Carbines that were supposed to be in this month? What quality, price?
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Inland Service Grades go on sale April 30th, for $495 plus $22.95 shipping. Other manufacturers will go on sale around September of this year, prices to be announced. 0 -
OVERPRICED!!! I am very disapointed that they seem to have priced these for the collector rather than the shooter. If the Inlands are nearly $500, how the hell am I goign to afford a far rarer IBM? This is ridiculous! As well as being overpriced, these will drive the gun show m1 carbine prices through the ceiling. This has got to be one of the only cases I can remember where supply increased, demand remained constant, and the price wennt up!!I would like to urge as many people as possible to not buy these yet. The CMP imported over 32,000 of these rifles. If no one buys them at the inflated rate perhaps they will lower there prices? 0 -
firstharmonic- Thanks for the info. I've been waiting for Email from them for awhile. I did get a Garand before prices got too bad. PATBUZZARD-I will think hard about your advice.. I am in no hurry..but..once prices go up it seems rare that they ever come down again. Again thanks. Best regards. 0 -
PATBUZZARD: You sure make sense in this Carbine bit from CMP. Same as
the CMP M-1 rifle sales lately. Seems to me, the remaining very good condition M-1 rifles should be only sold for a period of time, lets say
6 or 8 months, to WW2 and Korean vets who actually saw combat with them.
Such as a Infantryman with a CIB or a line company Marine who proved he was in combat. (possibly some Nam vets who used them also). The hell with the "collecters" and the "trader/sellers. Most of us from this era
cant afford to pay these inflated prices. And we made this M-1 rifle famous with our blood,sweat and tears and now it is out of most of our price ranges. Talk about selling us out for a few bucks of profit!!!!
If I recall correctly in training in WW 2 a "statement of charges" for a M-1 rifle was $89.00. Lets give a break to those of us that used this M-1 rifle in combat, I feel we deserve it. Also there are damn few of us left so it wouldnt hurt the CMP much.0 -
Pat, I am with you they are overpriced to me, lets see what the market says. The ones that actually sell at the gun show cannot be raised by an influx of more stock.
I know every body and their brother is gonna buy one and try to flip it, but the ones that sell should at least be lower than todays prices
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Maybe I will just have to keep waiting for the DCM carbine I am on the waiting list for. That one is only Twenty dollars.
I asked the CMP if I could be put at the top of the list since I have been waiting for over fourty years. They quickly replied that there are plenty to go around & that no list is necessary but that if I included the old reciept they would hand pick me a carbine.
That sounds temping but if the price is as noted I may well pass it up. I was ready to pay $400 but even that was streaching it. I know they are bringing far more but they aren't worth it to me.
I just checked their webpage & I couldn't find anything about prices.
The last I heard was that the price wasn't going to be released until tomorrow.0 -
the collector grades will go to the cmp auction page if there were any returned . there were a few cases of unissued MI's returned from greece that the cmp auctions off or they were a few months back 0 -
WOW! It wasnt that long ago that I purchased my Winchester carbine which is straight up and I didn't pay that much for it. I realize prices have gone up but I was under the assumption that the CMP was here to make these war era guns available to people that deserve them at an affordable price. 0 -
quote:PATBUZZARD Posted - 03/22/2007 : 12:29:31 PM
OVERPRICED!!! I am very disapointed that they seem to have priced these for the collector rather than the shooter. If the Inlands are nearly $500, how the hell am I goign to afford a far rarer IBM? This is ridiculous! As well as being overpriced, these will drive the gun show m1 carbine prices through the ceiling. This has got to be one of the only cases I can remember where supply increased, demand remained constant, and the price wennt up!!I would like to urge as many people as possible to not buy these yet. The CMP imported over 32,000 of these rifles. If no one buys them at the inflated rate perhaps they will lower there prices?
Demand hasn't remained constant. Once the CMP first announced they were getting some carbines, thats all anyone could talk about. For the past couple months its all people have been talking about on the CMP forums, and every other site devoted to C&R guns. The CMP was getting so many calls and emails from people wanting to make sure all their information was correct and upto date that it really, really slowed them down. Everyone was so overly excited that I am suprised they are not more. If everyone hadn't been so over zealous, maybe they would have started lower. I have never seen excitment being built up like it has since they anounced they were getting some carbines.
I agree with you though, I am going to wait and see if prices come down any, but I highly doubt it. They are limiting everyone to 1 carbine this year, so I think that there will be plenty of time to see what happens.0 -
Way overpriced! They can keep them!
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[V][V][V] I paid less than that for my Rock-Ola[V][V][V][V] 0 -
Where and who are selling these Carbines 0 -
quote:Originally posted by big800
Where and who are selling these Carbines
http://www.odcmp.com/rifles/carbine.htm0 -
I walked into an old pawn shop about two months ago while the owner was putting up some guns that had just come out of pawn. He had a Plainfield M1, in 90-95% condition. He had priced it by the Blue Book, and had a price tag of $175. on it. It's not G.I., but it shoots like a dream.
I wish I could get the real thing, but if $495 is the lowest price from the CMP, that will be the lowest price you see anywhere from now on.
I agree with joeaf1911a1 anyway. You veterans should have first crack at them, at prices that reflect your years of service! By the way, I'm not a veteran, there's nothing for me in that idea.0 -
I did finally find the price on their web site & the $495 plus shipping is correct. From the description of them there is no way they are worth that to me. They got me all worked up for nothing. 0 -
Yes, them M1 carabines are nice looking. However, I do not see a reason to buy one. The cartrige has poor balistics, something in 30-30 or 7.62x39, like SKS would be much better. What the big deal? Why are they so expensive? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Pinhead
495.00 + 22.50 shipping- are they kidding us? These carbines are said to have barrels of 3 or more on the gauge, stocks from foreign countries, and parts that are mixed between originals and foreign parts and well worn to boot. They are shooter grades at best and with all these mixed-master parts will never be accepted as collectors. This is gouging pure and simple. Me and CMP just split the blanket.
Well, that quote is absolutely incorrect, as is your summary assessment. The barrels all guage LESS THAN three at the muzzle and the rifles, though varying in condition, are definitely going to be worth the money. I might suggest that there are a lot of members on this forum now that need a lot of work on their reading comprehension, as well as an attitude adjustment in regard to the importance of their opinions.0 -
I just got a new E-Mail from the CMP. In addition to some news about the carbines they said they have recieved 500 Krag rifles. They note that many of them are in bad condition & that they don't intend to get around to them for at least a year. Have to wonder how many thousands of dollars they will want for them? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
Seems to me, the remaining very good condition M-1 rifles should be only sold for a period of time, lets say
6 or 8 months, to WW2 and Korean vets who actually saw combat with them.
Such as a Infantryman with a CIB or a line company Marine who proved he was in combat. (possibly some Nam vets who used them also).
Joe, they should have let you keep yours!0 -
Frogbert,
It looks like the information on the CMP website is a little misleading, or unclear. In one area:
"M1 Carbine Rack Grade
Carbines have been refinished and rebuilt at least once and will exhibit in most cases varying degrees of wear on many parts. All the carbines have late features such as, adjustable sights (heavily staked) with bayonet lug bands and rotary safeties. Metal parts are mixed USGI. There are no carbines with early features. Minor pitting both exterior and in the bore may be seen on some carbines. Muzzle will gauge over a three (3) on gauge. Stocks are replacement Italian marked M2 birch or beech pot belly type or USGI walnut but having seen heavy use with rebuild marks (no original stock cartouches remain). Most stocks have the "FAT" stamp / cartouche (Fabbrica Armi Terni )."
Right below that:
" Due to the relatively small percentage of carbines grading as `Rack', they will not be offered for sale in 2007. Most of these carbines will be used as a source of parts for CMP repair operations. "0 -
"Muzzle will gauge over a three (3) on gauge"
can someone explain the CMP grading?
I get that 1 is good and 10 is bad, but are they actually measuring the internal metal wear or what???0
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