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Guys,
Do you think installing polished stainless steel guide rods improve a semi-auto's "handling" characteristics?
Do you think installing polished stainless steel guide rods improve a semi-auto's "handling" characteristics?
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Nope!!!! But it cost more so I guess you would have those bragging rights!!! 0 -
Ha!...I don't need bragging rights for spending extra bucks....I'm already doing that acquiring a collection of good semi-autos for target, and self defence.
I just stumbled across this site, that tells of it significantly improving handle stability, recoil flip, and accuracy, check it out and let me know if you think it's "BS", OK? They are talking about Sigs, and other models.
http://www.bedair.org/P226/GuideCustomer.html0 -
All I know is I am definatly more accurate with my .45's that do have a FLGR.
This may just be the guns though. All the one with a FLGR came that way from the factory. Only my GI's did not come with them, and even those are fairly accurate.0 -
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quote:Originally posted by git_r_done
All I know is I am definatly more accurate with my .45's that do have a FLGR.
This may just be the guns though. All the one with a FLGR came that way from the factory. Only my GI's did not come with them, and even those are fairly accurate.
Kevin:
Would that be "friction-less guide rod"? FLGR escapes me.
Jim
FLGR = Full Length guide rod0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
quote:Originally posted by git_r_done
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
quote:Originally posted by git_r_done
All I know is I am definatly more accurate with my .45's that do have a FLGR.
This may just be the guns though. All the one with a FLGR came that way from the factory. Only my GI's did not come with them, and even those are fairly accurate.
Kevin:
Would that be "friction-less guide rod"? FLGR escapes me.
Jim
FLGR = Full Length guide rod
Well, that makes good sense. If it was short, the slide would jamb, or fall off the frame. [:D]
In all seriousness, are they "polished stainless steel," carbon steel, polymer, plastic, or alloy guide rods?
Mine are all polished stainless.0 -
I know my Steyr M40-A1 comes stock with weak thin plastic guide rod. Most Steyr owners switch to steel. Seems like polished stainless steel would be an true improvement on that one at least! 0 -
i swear by them, but so does wilson combat, les baer, ed brown, sti, svi, rob letham, doug koenig, todd jarred, matt burket, but what do they know
i like the way they keep the slide/frame tight, i shoot 3" groups at 25 yrds freestyle, i think i should be able to tell the difference, and i can0 -
Yes, 1911a1fan
That's pretty much what that site indicated. Definite increases in accuracy with less recoil.
I think I'll check my guide rods and pick up some over time, I think for my plastic rodded Steyr first...then my Sig P239, and others that seem like it might could use reducuction in friction benefits.
Thanks!
Is there another outlet for those? That site only seemed to cover a few gun models.0 -
quote:Originally posted by first_timer
Yes, 1911a1fan
That's pretty much what that site indicated. Definite increases in accuracy with less recoil.
I think I'll check my guide rods and pick up some over time, I think for my plastic rodded Steyr first...then my Sig P239, and others that seem like it might could use reducuction in friction benefits.
Thanks!
if your not going to compete look into tungsten, the added weight helps0 -
No, I don't plan on competing. Just range fun recreation and self defence.
Can you direct me to a polished tungsten outlet, please?
(and maybe another vender of polished stainless too, for my other pistols possibly?)0 -
try these guys
http://sigforum.com/eve/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=6746084120 -
I bought one for my Glock 22. The factory spring and guide rods that come in them seem pretty cheap. I replaced it for the tighter spring too. 18 lbs. That was the highest one the place offered. It's supposed to reduce muzzle flip.
I haven't done scientific studies on accuracy or muzzle flip with it but I'd buy another one just for the sake of having it. I have no way of measuring it but I think the gun is more tight and the slide probably comes back a mili-second faster. Very little muzzle flip.0 -
What 1911 said - Tungsten is the way to go, if you are going to pop for a guide rod.
A lot of modifications on 1911s improve their accuracy, since they aren't inherently accurate. However, the biggest accuracy improvements come from reducing the operating clearances in the weapon. While this is great in competition and on the range, it is not something you want to hang your life on. The sloppier the clearances (to a degree) the less likely your 1911 is to malfunction in a true combat situation.
I'm sure you could hit an assailant at 50 feet with any old 1911. The point of carrying a firearm is to have it available to stop a fight. It won't do that if some dirt in the mechanism prevents it from shooting.
That said, my opinion is that a tungsten guide rod is a worthwhile improveent.
Doug0 -
Bottom line Most SS guide rods are made from polished 304 Stainless Steel.... which is more abasive than mild steel. And if the two materials are finished to the same roughness the the SS should always be more abrasive...it is just the nature of the beast.
The tungsten tip will more likey to achieve better long term results....
But if you are set on stainless I'd go with ED BROWN as they're one of the few that don't use 304 SS. You'll pay a bit more though....0 -
thanks, tobefree
I'm really not "set" on anything yet. Just inquiring from folks who have experience I don't with some things to this point.
I've been spending too freely of "shooting irons" lately anyway.
Time to cool it (until finances recoup). I've picked up 6 pretty good toys(all 40 cal., but all of different makers/models)in the past 3 months!
Time to slow down and just have fun with the different makes/model and how they each handle at the range.
(while I gather back my brass and learn/study up on reloading next)0 -
I put a Wolff stainless guide rod and springs on my old Glock 21 and thought it made a difference. The gun seemed more accurate and had smoother action. 0
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