This Makes Me Sick!
NOBODY WANTS TO GET INVOLVED! How many people walked or drove past this cop fighting with this lunatic?
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1166770314/Police_Officer_Takes_on_a_Drugged_Up_Criminal
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1166770314/Police_Officer_Takes_on_a_Drugged_Up_Criminal
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5244962.html
Desecration of Liberty Marine's grave leads to arrest
LIBERTY - The recent desecration of Marine Lance Cpl. Jeremy Burris' grave in Liberty County was not an anti-war protest or Halloween prank, police say, but a simple act of theft.
Investigators said Thursday that Wallace Ray DeBlanc, 41, ripped the 25 floral arrangements apart for the wire stands (worth about $1.50 each), a pewter cross and other decorations that could be resold to floral shops.
Liberty Police Chief Mike Cummings estimates DeBlanc, who has given police a statement, got $30 to $50 for the items. He has been charged with two felonies: theft of property from a grave and criminal mischief to a human burial site.
"Nobody had called us about this problem before. But we believe this had been happening for a long time," said Cummings. "(DeBlanc) had a routine of going around collecting things from cemeteries about every week or two for the last five years."
Burris, 22, was killed in Iraq by a roadside bomb. He had just rescued two other Marines wounded by another bomb. Burris had returned to retrieve some sensitive equipment from their vehicle when he was killed by the second detonation, his family said.
About a thousand residents, waving flags and posters, turned out to pay their respects when Burris' white hearse rolled down Main street Oct. 16.
"(LeBlanc) needs our prayers now," said Burris' mother, Karla.
"We're not angry, not trying to get back at him. He committed a crime and he has to pay for it."
Jeremy Burris, who was home-schooled and liked to lead the worship services in his church, was the oldest of her seven children. The Burrises have two other sons in the military: one in Iraq and another who just joined and will be headed there soon.
"This arrest is a relief," she said. "It puts the period at the end of the sentence."
Cummings said the incident had aroused interest beyond the town. He said numerous lawmakers and citizens from across the country had contacted him about it, noting the story had been retold in a national military publication.
Pamela Litton, a Liberty florist, said people from Wisconsin and New Jersey had phoned her to buy flowers for Burris' grave.
None of the stolen items had been purchased by her shop, she said, but a pewter cross that she had put on one of Burris' arrangements had been sold elsewhere.
She has since heard of decorative items often disappearing from graves in Liberty. She recalled the disappearance of a wreath she made from exotic tropical flowers.
Linda Hewitt, owner of a beauty salon on the town square, said, "I was so shocked it was an older person doing this. And that he would do it for $1.50."
"This just hit a nerve with a lot of us. Nobody could believe it," agreed James B. Sterling III, former commander of the local American Legion.
Cummings said DeBlanc was known to have had a drug problem. He had a prior conviction for delivery of cocaine in 1993, as well as aggravated robbery, theft, and disorderly conduct, records show.
If convicted of the latest charges, DeBlanc could receive up to two years in jail and a $10,000 fine for each one.0 -
Its the world we live in[V] 0 -
that's the way it goes... you can take a chance on getting hurt and no matter what you'll have to show up in court when it goes to court, and take time off from work. that's why they didn't want to get involved. that's "the system". now, if nobody had to worry about missing work or going to court, do you suppose they would have jumped in and done something about it if they weren't worried about getting beat up in the process? probably. 0 -
Pretty sad comentary about our society if you ask me. I saw a set up senario where a little girl was apparently being abducted in broad daylight on a busy city street. Nobody would help her until finally two young fellows intervined. That was after many people walked by. But then there was the story I read last year of a guy who shot a guy attacking an LEO. I think he shot the guy 4 times to the torso and once to the head with a .45. That was after the cop shot the guy once himself. Good for that citizen I say. 0 -
Hey, I wonder if Jesse Jackson Took the police officers side this time? 0 -
read "Candide" by Voltaire sometime, if you find that amusing. 0 -
It's in Massachusetts, I would also avoid getting invloved in that state. In civilized states I'd help the officer with whatever tools/weapons I had, including kicking the perp's head in if necessary head in. 0 -
and if someone had gotten ivolved and hurt either the crook or the cop, they would have been sued or if they themselves got hurt, they would have sued the police department. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
and if someone had gotten ivolved and hurt either the crook or the cop, they would have been sued or if they themselves got hurt, they would have sued the police department.
Yeah. Better to stand-by and watch. Don't want to risk getting sued.[:(!][:(!][:(!]
Wonder how those people would feel if the bad guy had killed the officer. I also wonder how those people decide what to wear with that yellow streak down their backs.[:(!]0 -
I was in a similar situation with a meth-head once, just not on video. A review of my radio traffic later showed this had gone on for 7.5 minutes before a back-up unit arrived.
It gives you a whole new outlook on the world when you realize so many people were simply driving around you throughout something like this. I'd lost my radio at the outset and none of them so much as picked up their phone to call in.0 -
Just yell to the LEO "NEED HELP?" 0 -
I can't believe that.[:(!][:(!][:(!] 0 -
I can say with complete confidence that if the officer would accept my help I would have jumped in and helped him pull the guy down. I would have asked first.[:0][:0] No hesitation unless I had my nice pink shirt on![;)] 0 -
It took the woman running the video camera nearly three minutes fromn the time the tape started rolling to dail 911 and ask for help and the fact thaat no one else seemed to bother calling for help is an outrage. The suspect was a good sized man but I am a bit over 6-1 and 220+ pounds so I would have at least tried to help the officer contain the guy. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by kristov
It took the woman running the video camera nearly three minutes fromn the time the tape started rolling to dail 911 and ask for help and the fact thaat no one else seemed to bother calling for help is an outrage. The suspect was a good sized man but I am a bit over 6-1 and 220+ pounds so I would have at least tried to help the officer contain the guy.
I agree! I could not have watched that match without offering to assist the officer in a takedown. To pull the guys legs out from under him from behind would not be much of a risk to yourself. Yes you might get hammered a couple of times or a skinned up knee but the officer was keeping the perp pretty darn busy from the front side. It was a close match so even the assistance of a fat lady would have tilted the match in the officers favor.[:0][:0][:(]0 -
At the very least I would have called the local station for backup. As for helping out, you don't want to interfere and make it worse. An untrained person getting in the way of the officer is how some would see it. 0 -
I wouldnt think twice about helping out...but a question I have is why didnt he pull that billy club out? I would have already whipped that out and turned his head to sour mash. Watching the video, I see several times he could have gotten it out and into a fighting grip (against the forearm).
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as far as i'm concerned, officers are heroes. they put their lives on the line every day, facing jackholes like this guy, trying to protect us. just imagine if that guy HAD gotten behind a wheel? or if someone looked at him wrong? that officer deserves a bonus and a well earned vacation. 0 -
Ok, the it said the crook was going for his gun. Would this not be a potentially life and death situation? What if the guy had gotten it? Since the guy was unarmed, the officer only felt he could use mace or what? I'm just curious why he wouldn't have gone for his gun in this instance.
As for being a bystander...there were a lot of people standing by apparently. He asked for help and he got help. Seems like a good visual lesson. If you're worried about going to court, why couldn't you just help and then walk away into the crowd? The officer appeared to be dealing with the criminal at the time. It appears as if it would have been easy to just quickly walk away after the guy was subdued. Maybe I'm wrong.0 -
Nobody wants to help the cop when he needs it , when they need help who's the first one they call. Pretty chicken schit. JMHO 0 -
Even out West
Massachusetts's
"reputation" is well
known.
When I was a kid in
a Mass High School guns
were allowed or at least the
toters weren't bothered.
I took my shotgun everywhere,
walked to the farm with my 270
never a problem, shot all morning
and sometimes during the late afternoon
and no one ever bothered me except for the
cops's wife when I got rambunctious and got
bored with shooting pidgeons and
shot her cat.0 -
someone should have ponyed up and helped out ... wussies 0 -
Even if they dont want to get sured the chick waited for like 3 minutes before calling the cops. CWP anyone? 0 -
Would have stepped in regardless of own safety.
That cop sure looks like he could use some help.
But seriously - how many times have we seen bystanders wanting to step in, but getting rejected, ordered away or even arrestes ?
Have seen that a couple of times.0 -
Not to be 'macho'. but I am a big boy. yes I would have stepped in. yes, there is a very large probability that I would have broken his jaw. an even larger probability is that I wouldn't have Identified myself, thus lessening my chance of legal ramifications.
cop went way, way too far. I would have just shot him..period.0 -
quote:Originally posted by sweaver
but a question I have is why didnt he pull that billy club out?
I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video but I think the cop expected to subdue the guy with mace, then while trying to mace the guy he maced himself too which left him in a bad way. He may have been partially blinded from the mace so he couldn't get the club out.
I witnessed a cop mace himself once while he was chasing a man out of a pharmacy after the guy robbed it. The cop came chasing the guy across the parking lot and whil running at full speed accidently maced himself and it took two other cops to hold him up while he leaned on a patrol car.0 -
All I can say is this is a prime example of why the Taser is such a great tool. The officer wouldn't have gotten any spray on himself and the badguy would have been subdued until other officers could arrive on scene to assist. As for myself I could not watch something like that without jumping in. I've done it before and I'm sure I will do it again. 0
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