Christmas Help
need advise. after us 3 kids graduated from college and moved out of the house our dad gained an interest in firearms.
we've learned that he would like a 22 semiautomatic rifle for christmas but we do no know anything about firearms. can anyone suggest a decent rifle for us to purchase?
our dad lives in michigan but is spending christmas in texas with my sister. are there any laws that we need to be concerned with if we purchase the rifle in texas and have him transport it back to michigan?
we've learned that he would like a 22 semiautomatic rifle for christmas but we do no know anything about firearms. can anyone suggest a decent rifle for us to purchase?
our dad lives in michigan but is spending christmas in texas with my sister. are there any laws that we need to be concerned with if we purchase the rifle in texas and have him transport it back to michigan?
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My dad likes his Ruger 10/22... 0 -
how will he be traveling? If he is driving there is no problem at all, I bought a handful of rifles in Wyoming then drove them to Kentucky 
Keep it unloaded and it should be fine. I would get him a rifle that accepts ALL .22 rounds shorts, longs and magnums. I don't know of a make or model off hand but I promise 100xs of people here do
Good luck and merry Christmas to you and yours.0 -
Depending on his taste in rifles, you might try a nice Marlin. Model 60 semi auto $125 new. Or even a bolt action model 925, about $175 new I think. Remington Nylon 66 are even available if he would like something collectible. 0 -
something similar to this a good 10-22...WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE....Loko
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=868748430 -
you absolutely can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22.
As far as laws for transportation.... Make sure he has a case of some sort to store the rifle in, and that he keeps ammo in a seperate compartment. That way he will be perfectly legal even in the most strict states like Illinois.0 -
quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
how will he be traveling? If he is driving there is no problem at all, I bought a handful of rifles in Wyoming then drove them to Kentucky Keep it unloaded and it should be fine. I would get him a rifle that accepts ALL .22 rounds shorts, longs and magnums. I don't know of a make or model off hand but I promise 100xs of people here do
Good luck and merry Christmas to you and yours.
I think you meant short, long and long rifle. .22 Magnum is a different chamber.
The long is all but obsolete (if not obsolete) and the short isn't very popular and getting hard to find. I think it would be OK to go with a .22 chambered for long rifle only.
digitalme, Browning makes some nice .22's. I wouldn't mind if somebody gave me one. Here is a link to one of them. Link0 -
my vote is the ruger 10 -22 0 -
I've had various 10/22 Rugers since they first came out.
That's the right one.
Even though I dislike Ruger.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by sav99
Depending on his taste in rifles, you might try a nice Marlin. Model 60 semi auto $125 new. Or even a bolt action model 925, about $175 new I think. Remington Nylon 66 are even available if he would like something collectible.
wow... thanks for all of the advise guys. i talked to my dad's shooting buddy and he had mentioned a Marlin. my sister is going to be buying the rifle in houstan so i'm trying to gather as many specifics as possible to send along to her. Are there any retail chains that carry Marlin?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jacob2008
My dad likes his Ruger 10/22...
I agree that a fine gift would be the Ruger 10/220 -
quote:Originally posted by digitalme
he had mentioned a Marlin
Go with the Marlin, he will be happy with it.
Most major sporting goods chains will carry one.0 -
There is no such thing as a nice Marlin model 60. Go with the Ruger 10-22. Stainless steel. You won't regret it. 0 -
digitalme - All the responses so far have given you good advice as far as what .22 to get.
However, I will answer your last question. There is no problem with buying a rifle for someone as a gift, however, it is illegal to purchase a firearm for someone else (i.e. straw purchase). I know this sounds contradictory, but in reality it isn't. Make sure you tell your sister that when she is filling out the 4473 (the paperwork) that she does not check "yes" to the question "Are you purchasing this firearm for someone else?". In this case, your sister is buying a .22 for herself with plans to gift it to her dad in the future. I know this sounds crazy, but that is the way that it is.
The other thing that you could do is go to one of the major chain stores that you have both there in TX and in MI. Talk to the guy at the firearms counter and find out if you can pay for a gun there and have your dad pick it up in MI. That way he can fill out the appropriate paperwork with his information. If they can't do that, then it may be advisable to get a gift card for the amount of the purchase (including tax and fees), go to the manufacturers website and print a picture of the .22 you want to get him and attach the gift card to the picture. Put it in a card and when he opens it, you can explain why you did it that way.
I wish it didn't have to be that convoluted, but unfortunately, until we can get rid of all the unconsitutional laws regarding firearms and firearms purchase, that is the way it is.0 -
Hard to beat a Ruger 10-22. There are so many aftermarket gadgets for them.
For top shelf, there is the Browning 22 Auto. They are nice, nimble, and quick. They also take down(split in half), and fit in a nice little case(accessory). Bottom eject, so they are ambedextrious also.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I've had various 10/22 Rugers since they first came out.
That's the right one.
Even though I dislike Ruger.
Doug
I am no Ruger fan either.0 -
Just to clarify a point on the 4473.
Doesnt the first question require a "YES"? I just did a purchase last week and I swear the question asks "ARE YOU THE ACTUAL BUYER OF THE FIREARM?"...better answer YES to that one or the deal stops immediately.
If they changed the form/question it is news to me.0 -
My personal favorite is mossberg mdl 151, I have never had another 22 that shoots so well. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by digitalme
wow... thanks for all of the advise guys. i talked to my dad's shooting buddy and he had mentioned a Marlin. my sister is going to be buying the rifle in houstan so i'm trying to gather as many specifics as possible to send along to her. Are there any retail chains that carry Marlin?
If he likes marlins I'd go with that. It seems most folks, including myself, prefer the Ruger, but you're not buying for us. [:D]
The Marlin model 60 is a fine choice, and can be had for about $130. I would suggest against Walmart, go for a sporting goods store. I've been told many times that Walmart's firearms are made to a lesser standard. I can't confirm that, but I will say that the Remington shotgun I bought there gave me nothing but troubls, and 2 other exact same models of Remington shotguns I bought elsewhere were flawless.0 -
quote:Originally posted by medic07
Just to clarify a point on the 4473.
Doesnt the first question require a "YES"? I just did a purchase last week and I swear the question asks "ARE YOU THE ACTUAL BUYER OF THE FIREARM?"...better answer YES to that one or the deal stops immediately.
If they changed the form/question it is news to me.
medic07,
This has been researched before. The kids are the actual buyer of the firearm. There is nothing saying that anyone can not buy one, and gift it to someone who can legally own it. The straw purchase law is to buy it for someone else who can not pass the NICS check. A most recent deal here ended up with a dealer loosing his license, as the buyers were together(ATF agents), and one guy said he would buy it as they would be using it together. Left a gray area as to who the "ACTUAL BUYER" was
Bottom line...the kids here are the ACTUAL BUYER. It does not ask who the actual user is going to be. That is a gray arrea also in my mind, but the BATFE says it is good.0
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