Safety glasses debate
.
0
-
Glad to hear y'all had fun.
And just some future advice: tell them they'd much rather go shooting. It's much more practical and justifies the purchasing of more guns![:p][:D]0 -
Nice!
Beautiful children (and wifey).0 -
nice job ther K looks like a good time for all like the camo NRA cap also 0 -
NO EYE PROTECTION.[:0]
HECK, WHY BOTHER WITH THE EARPRO?
come on dads, be a dad and do the safety check list for their sakes.0 -
Good looking family...congrats...Bobski is right...give the girls something to protect their eyes. 0 -
These times of shooting will be remembered long after the sea world stuff is but a dim memory in the girls minds. It is like the song by Alan Jackson called "Drive" if you happen to be familiar with it. Memories instilled deep into their minds of the fun they had with Dad doing what he likes to do. Wifey will remember it as well. Great deed done on your part.[;)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
Personally I beleive eye protection in the heat and humidity of southeast Texas does more damage then good.
Safety first! I do not compromise when it comes to safety. My kids always wear eye and ear protection or they don't get to shoot at all. If they cannot focus for any reason whatsoever, the shooting session ends - no ifs or buts. It only takes one stupid mistake or negligence for the Murphy's law to happen. My kids are too precious for me to take that risk ... just my 2-pence for your thoughts.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Kodiakk
Thanks for the opinion, however I just wanted to share a nice day and wasn't asking for any. Obviously in Montana it gets very hot and humid like here in southern Texas. HOW CAN YOU BE SO DAMN SAFE IF YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE bleenING SWEAT STREAKED GLASSES!
Read the above post I made about my EXPERIENCE with almost losing digits and my freaking head due to safety glasses offshore. It's not like I can wait until a cool day down here since it's so damn hot and humid for the most of the year.
In other words, piss off with your negative and condcending statements about a wonderfull day with my kids.
Excuseeeeeeeee me! You shared your wonderful day with your kids and I shared a life saving safety rule with my kids. I see no negative nor condescending statement made, especially when it was already addressed by Bobski and Bondai (they must be special [}:)]).
Anyway, I apologize, I mean no disrespect on how you teach your wife and kids to shoot. God bless!0 -
Well, It depends on what gun im shooting if i wear ear protection, anything above AK and above im wearin em.
As for eye protection, I see his point.0 -
Kodiakk - glad you had a fun day with the family. That is what it is all about. Looks like the pics caused a bit of an unwanted debate. So i won't debate you. I will offer you another side.
After working 20 years as a field biologist in deep south Texas, east Texas and about 30 other states in every weather condition possible, i was hired by an oil company to do their work. To make a long story short, i worked my way into management (but still work in the field). Safety comes under my department. With 50+ platforms and 3+ rigs running year round, I have spent countless hours offshore over the last 20 years, so i know of what you speak. Judging from your photo, I probably have at least 15 years more outdoor experience than you.
A few years back we had 2 eye injuries in less than 3 months. I took our safety guys out for a field visit and inquiry. I got pretty much the same answers about safety glasses as you gave, including they just looked ugly. i took a half inch thick catalog from my case and passed it to the green hat contract D operator. The catalog was nothing but safety eyewear. I asked him to look through the catalog and find the most expensive eyewear in it. He found a pair that sold for $185 (some space-age stuff). When i asked him if he liked them he said "sure". I asked him if i bought them for him would he wear them, again he said "sure, those are cool". I took out a pad and wrote his name on it with the model # and 2 pair dark, 2 pair clear. I then handed the pad and the catalog to the platform lead and told him i wanted everyone to pick out the glasses they wanted and get 4 pair. I told the safety guys i wanted the list back on my desk in 2 weeks with everyones name (employee and contract operators from all platforms and rigs) and their selection on it. I asked the D operator if he saw any spare eyes in the catalog, he laughed and said no. I told him i had never seen any either and that was why i expected him to wear the glasses. When one pair gets messed up, put the other pair on and order another.
I have worn glasses all my life and fully understand any inconvience they generate, and my folks had every pair i ever got made from safety glass. If you sweat, take a towel or a shop cloth. Personnally, i have never been on a range that did not require safety glasses to shoot.
In the end, it is certainly your choice - unless you are on one of my platforms/locations. [;)]
[B)]Ouch! sure wish i would have had my safety glasses on....0 -
[?]
Sorry you pulled the pics.
[:(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jacob2008
Well, It depends on what gun im shooting if i wear ear protection, anything above AK and above im wearin em.
As for eye protection, I see his point.
Here's one for you on hearing protection my young friend ...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8d0_1183090807
[:p]!0 -
quote:Originally posted by texaswildman
Kodiakk - glad you had a fun day with the family. That is what it is all about. Looks like the pics caused a bit of an unwanted debate. So i won't debate you. I will offer you another side.
After working 20 years as a field biologist in deep south Texas, east Texas and about 30 other states in every weather condition possible, i was hired by an oil company to do their work. To make a long story short, i worked my way into management (but still work in the field). Safety comes under my department. With 50+ platforms and 3+ rigs running year round, I have spent countless hours offshore over the last 20 years, so i know of what you speak. Judging from your photo, I probably have at least 15 years more outdoor experience than you.
A few years back we had 2 eye injuries in less than 3 months. I took our safety guys out for a field visit and inquiry. I got pretty much the same answers about safety glasses as you gave, including they just looked ugly. i took a half inch thick catalog from my case and passed it to the green hat contract D operator. The catalog was nothing but safety eyewear. I asked him to look through the catalog and find the most expensive eyewear in it. He found a pair that sold for $185 (some space-age stuff). When i asked him if he liked them he said "sure". I asked him if i bought them for him would he wear them, again he said "sure, those are cool". I took out a pad and wrote his name on it with the model # and 2 pair dark, 2 pair clear. I then handed the pad and the catalog to the platform lead and told him i wanted everyone to pick out the glasses they wanted and get 4 pair. I told the safety guys i wanted the list back on my desk in 2 weeks with everyones name (employee and contract operators from all platforms and rigs) and their selection on it. I asked the D operator if he saw any spare eyes in the catalog, he laughed and said no. I told him i had never seen any either and that was why i expected him to wear the glasses. When one pair gets messed up, put the other pair on and order another.
I have worn glasses all my life and fully understand any inconvience they generate, and my folks had every pair i ever got made from safety glass. If you sweat, take a towel or a shop cloth. Personnally, i have never been on a range that did not require safety glasses to shoot.
In the end, it is certainly your choice - unless you are on one of my platforms/locations. [;)]
[B)]Ouch! sure wish i would have had my safety glasses on....
Excellent advice. Call me a safety freak but my kids and I even wear safety glasses and ear plugs when operating the mower and trimmer [^].0 -
Texaswildman, I have 4 years offshore slickline experience in the Gulf, +300 days a year offshore. I have a total of 9 years oilfield experience currently. I assume since you have all that offshore experience I don't have to talk to you like a green hand.
Bringing a shop rag or towel with you is great and all, however how the hell do you expect folks to wipe their glasses when they are 15 feet up a tree holding on with their legs and arms while stabbing 30' of lubricator? Not to mention the gloves and your entire coveralls soaked with grease, oil and sweat. I've almost lost fingers that way in a pinch point between the wellhead and lubricator.
Another example. Rigging up the tool string on deck while crane operators offloading bundles of drill pipe. I can't see worth a crap due to busting my ass on the metal deck in the middle of summer in the gulf. Crane operator trys to take my head off. Stop card written time and time agian same crane operators do the same crap. Overhead loads a plenty. Rowan, Diamond, Pool, Ensco rigs it doesn't matter. I've seen tong operators lose fingers runnin pipe because of their glasses and sweat once.
I get one set of hands also not to mention one set of eyes. Both are very important to me. [;)]
Since you are in management I'm also curious. How the heck do companys so worried about "Safety" let crews work +3 days straight if there are problems without sleep until the job is finnished? Higher ups do realize you do not make the wisest decisions when you haven't slept in days right?
Another question, why do alot of companys want coveralls to be nomex? Office jockeys do realize that nomex won't save you if you have a blow out right? They only thing they help is giving serious heat exhaustion. I worked matagorda island field on BP rigs/platforms almost totally one summer, you'd be amazed how many folks I saw go down due to heat exhaustion from nomex.
Hell if you care enough about your people to be paying for $200 safety glasses without batting a eye get me hired on I bet you have some great pay. [;)]0
Please sign in to leave a comment.
Comments
14 comments