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dpmule
Any of you or someone you know ever been on Social Security disability and then after a time went back to work at your former occupation or at least gave it a go to see if you could return to full time work?
I'm trying sort out what potential problems it could cause, If I returned to work and then after 6 months, said the body is willing but the mind is weak ( I know that's backwards, but it stems from the meningitis I had in 01)
People at SS say it will be no problem, but I'd prefer to hear actual events from someone whose done it than take the word of a govt employee
Just curious to hear what other might have to say as I have been approached with a pretty lucrative offer working 28/28 overseas in the oilfield again
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  • Permanently deleted user
    They have a return to work program just for this senerio!

    And best of all you can recieve your money from both durring this time.

    I believe the period of time allowed on this program is 3 years but I may be wrong on this.

    I used about 3 months of mine about 3 years ago under this program when I tried going back to work.

    I was still able to drive a truck but it was just too hard on me doing the unloading that was required so I hung it up for good.

    SS's web site has details on this.
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  • dpmule
    and at the end of the three months and you decided it wasn't worth the pain, did they give you any problems for going back on disability?

    I'm going the SS site to look for that right now, THX
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by dpmule
    and at the end of the three months and you decided it wasn't worth the pain, did they give you any problems for going back on disability?

    I'm going the SS site to look for that right now, THX
    Not a problem one! Infact they allowed me to continue drawing my disability while I was working on that trial basis.

    I believe it is called the "return to work program".
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  • Permanently deleted user
    The Ticket to Work Program

    http://www.ssa.gov/work/

    This is the site with the info.


    This page highlights several of the work incentives that are available. Refer to the Red Book for additional information and definitions.


    Impairment Related Work Expenses (IRWE)

    SSDI & SSI -- We deduct the cost of certain impairment-related expenses that you need in order to work from your earnings when we decide if you are performing substantial work. Examples of impairment-related expenses are things such as a wheelchairs, certain transportation costs and specialized work-related equipment.

    SSI -- We also exclude IRWE from your earned income when we figure your monthly SSI payment amount.


    Subsidies and Special Conditions

    SSI & SSDI -- "Subsidies" and "Special Conditions" refer to support you receive on the job that could result in your receiving more pay than the actual value of the services you performed. We deduct the value of subsidies and special conditions from your earnings when we decide whether you are working at the SGA level.

    Following are examples of subsidies and special conditions:

    You receive more supervision than other workers doing the same or a similar job for the same pay.
    You have fewer or simpler tasks to complete than other workers who are doing the same job for the same pay.
    You have a job coach or mentor who helps you perform some of your work. Clarification
    SSI-- We do not deduct subsidies or special conditions when we figure your SSI payment amount.


    Unincurred Business Expense

    SSI & SSDI -- "Unincurred business expenses" refers to self-employment business support that someone provides to you at no cost. In deciding whether you are working at the SGA level, we deduct unincurred business expenses from your net earnings from self-employment. Examples of unincurred business expenses are (1) a Vocational rehabilitation agency gives you a computer that is used in a graphic arts business; and (2) a friend works for your business as unpaid help.

    For an item or service to qualify as an unincurred business expense:

    It must be an item or service that the IRS would allow as a legitimate business expense if you had paid for it; and
    Someone other than you must have paid for it.
    One way to identify an unincurred business expense is that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) does not allow you to deduct the cost for income tax purposes because someone gave you the item or services.

    SSI -- We do not deduct unincurred business expenses from earnings when we figure your SSI payment amount.


    Unsuccessful Work Attempt

    SSDI & SSI -- An unsuccessful work attempt is an effort by a disabled individual to do substantial work that either stopped or produced earnings below the Substantial Gainful Activity level after 6 months or less because of:

    The individual's disabling condition, or
    elimination of the special services or assistance that the individual needed in order to work.
    SSI -- Unsuccessful work attempts are not factors when we calculate your SSI payment amount.


    Continued Payment Under a Vocational Rehabilitation Program
    (also known as Section 301 Payments)

    SSDI & SSI -- If you medically recover and no longer meet SSA's definition of disability, your monthly payments can continue if you are actively participating in an approved VR program that is expected to help you become self-supporting. Your monthly SSDI and/or SSI Payments can continue until you complete the program.


    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/disabilityresearch/wi/detailedinfo.htm#TWP

    Trial Work Period

    SSDI -- The trial work period allows you to test your ability to work for at least 9 months. During your trial work period, you will receive your full disability benefit regardless of how much you earn as long as your work activity has been reported and you continue to have a disabling impairment. The 9 months does not need to be consecutive and your trial work period will last until you accumulate 9 months within a rolling 60-month period. Certain other rules apply.
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  • dpmule
    This info is enlightening, I was worried that if I tried to return to work and wasn't able to make a go of it, that it would really screw me up in getting benefits reestablished and it just damn near broke us when I was going through the process of getting benefits to begin with.
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