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Selected Reading: Rommel, Infantry Attacks

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  • Old Fool
    Rommel lost, he was a disgusting Nazi to the bone. US and Brit forces threw him out of North Africa, and his defense at Normandy was totally ineffective. Germany LOST. Nuff said!!!

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  • DancesWithSheep
    quote:Originally posted by Old Fool
    Rommel lost, he was a disgusting Nazi to the bone. US and Brit forces threw him out of North Africa, and his defense at Normandy was totally ineffective. Germany LOST. Nuff said!!!

    You are aptly named.
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  • tobefree
    I guess we all pick nicknames that fit us!!!
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  • KSUmarksman
    IIRC he was not a nazi,
    and any enemy commander (unless they were a bloodthirsty war criminal) of Rommel's caliber deserves our respect.

    He gave the allies a good run for their money in North Africa.
    Normandy fell because of Hitler's stubbornnes and the fact that Rommel was facing Patton in the breakout phase. If Monty was the only one trying to break out you can bet that Rommel would have detroyed the allies.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Rommel was NOT a Nazi.

    Basicially, he was given the "honor" of commiting sucicide to "apologise" for his "failure".


    IF Germany had a few more like Rommel, and Hitler not such a fool of a leader, European goods today would probably say "Made in the Third Reich"
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  • 11BravoCrunchie
    +1 to all the above except for the old fool. Rommel was a genius when it came to strategy and tactics. Some of his battle plans are still studied by the US military today.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Rommel lost,So did we in Vietnam - what are you saying?

    quote:he was a disgusting Nazi to the bone. On the contrary - he was never a Nazi Party member and did not carry out the more odious Nazi edicts, such as automatically killing Jewish POWs.
    quote:US and Brit forces threw him out of North Africa, True. But given how precarious his supplies were, it's amazing he lasted as long as he did.
    quote:and his defense at Normandy was totally ineffective. Rommel would likely have agreed with you - he was not given full command of the troops in the area (authority being split up amongst no fewer than three separate commanders and/or entities), was not brought into the Normandy command until far too late, and was not given the number or quality of troops needed to fend off the Allies.
    quote:Germany LOST.Lose or not, the Wehrmacht was one of history's finest fighting machines with a list of innovations and victories that challenge in 12 years of existence what America has done in over two hundred.

    I'm not saying they're better than we are, because we are doubtlessly more moral than they were, but you can admire someone or something's accomplishments without approving of their ideology or morality. Nazi Germany and her myriad of commanders as a whole fall into that category and to display such a cavalier disregard for their achievements displays only ignorance and unfounded hubris.
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  • 11BravoCrunchie
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Rommel lost,So did we in Vietnam - what are you saying?

    quote:he was a disgusting Nazi to the bone. On the contrary - he was never a Nazi Party member and did not carry out the more odious Nazi edicts, such as automatically killing Jewish POWs.
    quote:US and Brit forces threw him out of North Africa, True. But given how precarious his supplies were, it's amazing he lasted as long as he did.
    quote:and his defense at Normandy was totally ineffective. Rommel would likely have agreed with you - he was not given full command of the troops in the area (authority being split up amongst no fewer than three separate commanders and/or entities), was not brought into the Normandy command until far too late, and was not given the number or quality of troops needed to fend off the Allies.
    quote:Germany LOST.Lose or not, the Wehrmacht was one of history's finest fighting machines with a list of innovations and victories that challenge in 12 years of existence what America has done in over two hundred.

    I'm not saying they're better than we are, because we are doubtlessly more moral than they were, but you can admire someone or something's accomplishments without approving of their ideology or morality. Nazi Germany and her myriad of commanders as a whole fall into that category and to display such a cavalier disregard for their achievements displays only ignorance and unfounded hubris.



    Germany was years in advance of every other power during WWII. Hitler's people were working on a diesel sub that could operate with the diesel engines while submerged, negating the need to surface every few hours to recharge the batteries. Just imagine the impact that those subs would have had on the allied supply lines coming from North America.

    Hitler's people developed the first ICBMs. The V1 and V2 rockets. They also had a predecessor to the modern day cruise missile that was powered by a pulse jet engine to extend it's operational range on a limited fuel capacity.

    Granted, Hitler also wasted a lot of time, effort and resources on fallacious projects such as the Maus heavy tank that never became fully operational, and the whole rocket plane program which served a completely different purpose than it was intended to. I.E.: It was intended to produce interceptor aircraft that could attack Allied bomber formations during a time when the Luftwaffe was crippled, but it served more as a research platform for high speed jet aircraft of the later 20th century, uncovering aerodynamic problems that are encountered at high speeds.
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  • buschmaster
    Rommel fully anticipated the Normandy invasion but was unable to repel it because a) he was not given the troops and heavy armor, and b) the fortification of the vast stretch of seafront upon which the landings might occur was not at all worked on. He was told a little work was done, but upon arrival he found that almost nothing had been done. He still tried but it was too late. He knew what was coming. That is why.

    That was because Hitler did not believe him. He thought an invasion would happen elsewhere. He should have left the strategy to the tacticians.

    If you want to know just how ridiculously inept the Nazi leadership was, read "Inside The Third Reich" by Albert Speers. I firmly beleive that if Hitler & co. would have just shut up and let Field Marshal Von Rundstedt (a Prussian) do what he wanted, they would have won. Stupid germans.

    If you put bias aside, you can learn much. you can learn weaknesses to defeat a foe. you can learn strengths to become stronger yourself. or you can remain ignorant.

    Infantry Attacks, at the time, had nothing to do with WWII. If you have a military bent, you may be interested in viewing the tactics. or you may be simply interested in the stories. that's why I posted it.
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  • Colt Super
    Many people on this board have revealed their ignorance about the Normandy invasion, Rommel, German scientific developments & aircraft.

    "Inside the Third Reich" is a classic history of Nazi Germany, written by Speer during his permanent stay in Spandau.

    Seems like most of you get your history from movies and comic books.

    Doug

    * edited for spelling
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  • p3skyking
    I read Rommel's book at 15. Much of it concerns his experience during WWI and this was what interested me. The static war was what gave him impetus to overcome fortifications through the use of assault troops and armor.

    I don't know if Rommel could have stopped the D-Day landings with 15th Panzer at his disposal, but he damn sure could not without them.
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  • givette
    Nuremburg tribunal:

    Rudolf Hess= life sentence (died in Spandau prison)

    Albert Speer= 20yr sentence (commuted)
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