VA Police Chiefs against Campus carry
And cops wonder why 2nd Amendment people do not support them:
TOP COPS WHO DISGRACED THEMSELVES
by Dave Vann Executive Member, VCDL
At the Fourth Public Meeting of Governor Kaine's Independent Virginia
Tech Incident Review Panel, in Charlottesville, Va. on July 18, 2007,
four of Virginia's top law enforcement officers disgraced themselves,
their badge and the uniform they wear.
Chief Don Challis, William and Mary Police Department; Chief Michael
Gibson, University of Virginia Police Department; Chief Robert
Dillard, University of Richmond Police Department and Chief Mike
Yost, Williamsburg Police Department all stood before the Review
Panel and stated that students and faculty should never have the
means to defend themselves. They rationalized this by saying that
students traditionally forget where they put their books so it's only
logical that they would misplace a gun. Further, they stated that
students drink to excess and guns and alcohol don't mix.
I caught up with Chief Yost in the hallway after he spoke. After
everyone finished glad handing him I introduced myself as a former
LEO and then said that he should be ashamed of himself. He turned
the brightest shade of red I've ever seen and stammered "why"?
Here is the back and forth we had:
Me: You just said you would rather have 31 law abiding people
murdered then have them be able to defend themselves.
Yost: That's not what I said.
Me: Yes it is. Did you not just say, in there, that students and
faculty who have concealed handgun permits should not be allowed to
carry guns on campus?
Yost: Yes.
Me: Then you would rather they be murdered without a chance to save
their own lives. What gives YOU the right to take away the means to
self defense from ANYONE?
Yost: (stammering, stuttering)
Me: You are a disgrace to the badge you wear. You're supposed to
protect lives and instead you want to ensure that students and
faculty are defenseless.
Yost: I'm trying to have a logical discussion with you about this.
Me: Logical? What is logical about 31 people being murdered and not
being able to defend themselves? We're not talking about children.
We are talking about adults, 21 and older. Some over 40 and YOU say
they shouldn't be able to defend themselves against someone like Cho.
Yost: Well.......
Me: Yes or no? Should students be able to have the means to defend
themselves against someone who is trying to murder them on campus?
Yost: Given the strict confines of what you asked, NO. There are
too many guns on the street.
Me: Too many guns? Too many for whom? You should be ashamed.
You're a disgrace.
At that point one of the other Chiefs pulled him away and said they
were late for a meeting. Fortunately this was not a he said/he said.
I had a witness standing right beside me the entire time (VCDL Board
member and attorney, Jim Kadison).
This panel is made up of at least four anti-gun people that I know of
right off hand. It was loaded with anti-gun "expert witnesses" and
was geared to find just the outcome that Gov. Kaine wanted it to.
They could have saved all the money they spent traveling and
pronouncing how independent they were and just taken an hour after
they were appointed and reached the same conclusions that they'll
reach in a month or two.
TOP COPS WHO DISGRACED THEMSELVES
by Dave Vann Executive Member, VCDL
At the Fourth Public Meeting of Governor Kaine's Independent Virginia
Tech Incident Review Panel, in Charlottesville, Va. on July 18, 2007,
four of Virginia's top law enforcement officers disgraced themselves,
their badge and the uniform they wear.
Chief Don Challis, William and Mary Police Department; Chief Michael
Gibson, University of Virginia Police Department; Chief Robert
Dillard, University of Richmond Police Department and Chief Mike
Yost, Williamsburg Police Department all stood before the Review
Panel and stated that students and faculty should never have the
means to defend themselves. They rationalized this by saying that
students traditionally forget where they put their books so it's only
logical that they would misplace a gun. Further, they stated that
students drink to excess and guns and alcohol don't mix.
I caught up with Chief Yost in the hallway after he spoke. After
everyone finished glad handing him I introduced myself as a former
LEO and then said that he should be ashamed of himself. He turned
the brightest shade of red I've ever seen and stammered "why"?
Here is the back and forth we had:
Me: You just said you would rather have 31 law abiding people
murdered then have them be able to defend themselves.
Yost: That's not what I said.
Me: Yes it is. Did you not just say, in there, that students and
faculty who have concealed handgun permits should not be allowed to
carry guns on campus?
Yost: Yes.
Me: Then you would rather they be murdered without a chance to save
their own lives. What gives YOU the right to take away the means to
self defense from ANYONE?
Yost: (stammering, stuttering)
Me: You are a disgrace to the badge you wear. You're supposed to
protect lives and instead you want to ensure that students and
faculty are defenseless.
Yost: I'm trying to have a logical discussion with you about this.
Me: Logical? What is logical about 31 people being murdered and not
being able to defend themselves? We're not talking about children.
We are talking about adults, 21 and older. Some over 40 and YOU say
they shouldn't be able to defend themselves against someone like Cho.
Yost: Well.......
Me: Yes or no? Should students be able to have the means to defend
themselves against someone who is trying to murder them on campus?
Yost: Given the strict confines of what you asked, NO. There are
too many guns on the street.
Me: Too many guns? Too many for whom? You should be ashamed.
You're a disgrace.
At that point one of the other Chiefs pulled him away and said they
were late for a meeting. Fortunately this was not a he said/he said.
I had a witness standing right beside me the entire time (VCDL Board
member and attorney, Jim Kadison).
This panel is made up of at least four anti-gun people that I know of
right off hand. It was loaded with anti-gun "expert witnesses" and
was geared to find just the outcome that Gov. Kaine wanted it to.
They could have saved all the money they spent traveling and
pronouncing how independent they were and just taken an hour after
they were appointed and reached the same conclusions that they'll
reach in a month or two.
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