Okay fellow survivalists, who here carries.......
a BlastMatchT? I believe it is the best emergency tool in my "bug-out" pack. [^]
Here's a good review of a few fire starters:
http://www.equipped.com/firestrt.htm
Here's a good review of a few fire starters:
http://www.equipped.com/firestrt.htm
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i carry flint and a steel striker 0 -
Flint and Steel here. I hear these blast matches can be fragile. 0 -
Zippo 0 -
Flint and steel works well. Plenty of sisal or jute fibre can make a good starter. 0 -
cheap effective readily available, and just flat out better0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Zippo
Is useless at altitudes.0 -
flint stricker 0 -
All you need is a couple of sticks and a piece of string. Granted I've only gotten one ember so far but I keep trying. 0 -
Rockatansky
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 7:16:08 PM Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Zippo
Is useless at altitudes.
Could you elaborate on this? I didnt know this and hoped you might be able to supply some more info on how and why this is.
thanks.[:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
a BlastMatchT? I believe it is the best emergency tool in my "bug-out" pack. [^]
Here's a good review of a few fire starters:
http://www.equipped.com/firestrt.htm
I've got one in my bag. It works fine for me. I, also, keep matches in my bag, along with cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly. It's always good to have a backup.0 -
Mine is almost 4 years old and still going strong. As a "scouter", I carry more than 1 fire starter. 0 -
I keep a Magnesium Block on my keychain, it has a striking surface, and I'm never without at least 1 knife. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by divebomb
Rockatansky
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 7:16:08 PM Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Zippo
Is useless at altitudes.
Could you elaborate on this? I didnt know this and hoped you might be able to supply some more info on how and why this is.
thanks.[:)]
My guess is at a certain lower oxygen level there's just not enough of it for fluid to catch on fire. Even over here at 6,000-something mine don't work, I had to go to gas and at 8,000+ there isn't even a slight hint of it lighting up. Maybe there's different type of fluid, but all I see around here is the same either zippo or the other yellow plastic bottle one and neither works. It was a very nasty surprised once, thank goodness I not that stupid and have matches and one of them magnesium sticks.0 -
the highest peak in idaho is mt borah its 12,600+ feet, Ive been up there 11 times. when I was about 16 we lit off bottle rockets off of the top, we lit the fuses with a zippo.
seemed to work okay, wonder why that was?
thanks for your thoughts. Rsky[8D]0 -
Flint and steel, a pair of boot laces, or a little pile of gunpowder and a primed case. Lots of ways to make a fire. Even a flare can be used. A car battery and some wire and paper, gasoline and sparkplug, the ways are endless. [8D]
Courtesy of Naval Aircrew Survival School[;)][:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
My guess is at a certain lower oxygen level there's just not enough of it for fluid to catch on fire. Even over here at 6,000-something mine don't work, I had to go to gas and at 8,000+ there isn't even a slight hint of it lighting up. Maybe there's different type of fluid, but all I see around here is the same either zippo or the other yellow plastic bottle one and neither works. It was a very nasty surprised once, thank goodness I not that stupid and have matches and one of them magnesium sticks.
Cigarette lighter fluid is just naphtha. You can get it in various containers with various labels, but it's still naphtha. Zippos work pretty well with gasoline too. I've heard of people using JP-5 in them, but I've never tried that.
You could be right about the altitude thing, but every time I've been through the Rockies I smoked all the way and didn't have a problem with the old Zippo.
A magnifying glass can be handy for starting fires if you have sunshine. And then there is always the TACTICAL BIC. You can get them in camouflage now.0 -
Jim, I have used JP5 in a Zippo. Tough to light, you gotta almost roll your whole hand across the striker wheel for a continuous spark and when you do get it lit, it smokes like a tire burning. 0 -
if Bear Gryills doesnt carry it then i dont carry it. 0 -
Half a dozen SWAT/sniper/assault/tactical/entry BICs.
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I used to carry a Zippo, but because it was rarely used the lighter fluid would evaporate and when I wanted to use it, it would be empty.
Then I bought a Brunton Helios. Uses butane, is waterproof, windproof and always has fuel.0 -
quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
cheap effective readily available, and just flat out better
Yep I'm rarely without one and I have never smoked...And I had use of it on a few occassions too!0 -
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Jim, I have used JP5 in a Zippo. Tough to light, you gotta almost roll your whole hand across the striker wheel for a continuous spark and when you do get it lit, it smokes like a tire burning.
I'm not surprised. I mean it is JP-5. [:D] [:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by RUGERGUNZ
I used to carry a Zippo, but because it was rarely used the lighter fluid would evaporate and when I wanted to use it, it would be empty.
Then I bought a Brunton Helios. Uses butane, is waterproof, windproof and always has fuel.
mine would not work in the cold.
bic works for me, i never plan on climbing Everest, and i doubt if i get lost and wind up there0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
And then there is always the TACTICAL BIC. You can get them in camouflage now.
Do they have picatinny rails for it?
Here's the one I carry with all the time: Swedish FireSteel0 -
FWIW- butane lighters may not function in EXTREME cold unless the lighter is warm. But then I am speaking of winter, Fairbanks. 0 -
The best fire starter for cold wet wood and weather is a 15 min highway flare. Lay some wood on the ground, then the flare, then more wood. In just a few minutes you'll have a roaring fire with even the wettest wood.
If you're interested in sticks and string, it's best if you use a cottonwood 1x4 with a one inch notch cut into at a 60 degree angle. Then a pivot stick also of cottonwood. Embers can be obtained with about a minute of spinning. But it doesn't work as well in the rain.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
If you're interested in sticks and string, it's best if you use a cottonwood 1x4 with a one inch notch cut into at a 60 degree angle. Then a pivot stick also of cottonwood. Embers can be obtained with about a minute of spinning. But it doesn't work as well in the rain.
... or under water [:D]0
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