Seller shipped my handgun by UPS Ground!
Do you ever hear horror stories about FFL holders getting chewed up and spit out by the ATF? Well, here's a perfect example of one that should be. I purchased a handgun on Monday with the understanding that it would ship the following day (Tuesday). Well, it did. However, by UPS Ground and it won't be here until next Monday! I expected it to arrive today and made arrangements to meet a few buddies at the range to check it out. I'm still going to the range this afternoon, but I'm disappointed that I can't shoot the new pistol until late next week. Oh well, patience is a virtue (that I don't really have). [B)]
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Over night is NOT a BATFE rule. It is a UPS rule. 0 -
Did you npay the price to ship it overnite?? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by duckhunter
Over night is NOT a BATFE rule. It is a UPS rule.
+1, he broke no federal rules. But, if you spent the extra money to have it overnighted (and I assume you did since its a pistol), the FFL owner owes you an explanation and a refund for the shipping costs.0 -
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I thought it was a UPS requirement that handguns be shipped via Overnight. How did he get away with shipping it ground? 0 -
Over night for handguns is not law, it's policy bt UPS and Fed-Ex and they can deny insurance claims if lost and sent by ground but no legal issued involved.
I throw a cheap knife in the box with the gun and insure the "collector" knife for $600.0 -
Good luck Saxon, on collecting on a claim like that.
You must prove "value",......otherwise you could ship a used diaper, and claim it is worth 500 bucks.
Very bad advice.[xx(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by HandgunHTR52
I thought it was a UPS requirement that handguns be shipped via Overnight. How did he get away with shipping it ground?
+1 You must declare it is a firearm to the shipper, (that is fed law) I wonder if he used USPS instead? that is the cheapest way to ship a handgun. I would ask the seller for a tracking number[:D]
Don0 -
It is a UPS rule but I beleive I did read in my BATFE book that when shipping firearms you must follow the shippers rules. So that might make it illegal I do not have time to find the page right now but you could find it on www.atf.gov. 0 -
? 478.31 Delivery by common or con-tract
carrier.
(a) No person shall knowingly deliver or
cause to be delivered to any common or
contract carrier for transportation or ship-ment
in interstate or foreign commerce to
any person other than a licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or
licensed collector, any package or other
container in which there is any firearm or
ammunition without written notice to the
carrier that such firearm or ammunition is
being transported or shipped:
http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2005/p53004/index.htm
http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2005/p53004/27cfr_part478.pdf
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Just be thanfull that you got the darn thing in one peice.[:D] 0 -
Yep, I paid $47.75 for overnight (Red Label) shipping. [:(] I calculated the reverse shipment back by Ground UPS to cost $11.60. Cost really isn't as big of a factor as principal, but I am a little pissed about paying that much for nothing. [:(!]
I had confused the ATF and UPS shipping requirements. Thank you to those that pointed my error out. [^]
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quote:Originally posted by jhimco
Just be thanfull that you got the darn thing in one peice.[:D]
I haven't received it yet. It's due to arrive next week (instead of today as anticipated). [:(]
Jim0 -
The shipping dealer could've sent it USPS, as long as it's going to your dealer and the proper form is filled out.
Can't go wrong with Priority Mail.
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