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  • Warbirds
    New Orleans is the busiest port in N. America, beating L.A., Seattle, and Boston. Like it or Not New Orleans is worth tens of billions annually to the United States Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
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  • beachmaster73
    Dave, I've got to think that a few ports like Galveston and Houston as well as LongBeach, LA, and Oakland could easily pick up the slack for New Orleans. With that much money being spent you would hope it would be spent on a safe Harbor. Beach
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  • newtgingrich
    quote:Originally posted by Henry0Reilly
    quote:After Katrina, Congress gave the corps $5.7 billion to make New Orleans safe from hurricanes.

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/ap/story.asp?AP_ID=D8NRMOV04

    Why can't the folks who want to live there foot the bill?





    you forgot to mention the federal government gave over $75 billion AND private charities gave $60 billion. the result ? a total waste of money and a DUNGHOLE of a city
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  • Warbirds
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    Dave, I've got to think that a few ports like Galveston and Houston as well as LongBeach, LA, and Oakland could easily pick up the slack for New Orleans. With that much money being spent you would hope it would be spent on a safe Harbor. Beach

    Beach while I understand your point, its' really alot more complicated than that. First you have to consider where the products are coming from or going to just to arrive or leave a port. New Orleans location is ideal for this. That is just the tip of the iceberg for logistics problems that would be presented. Shipping ports don't make any money when they have open dock instead of a ship to onload/offload things from. What that means is nearly every port in the U.S. operates at near max capacity already, or they are already operating beyond thier current design capacity. You can't just take the biggest and most vital hub out of the U.S. economy and expect it not to have catostrophic effects on the economy. Everything from the cost of coal to the cost of rubber dog bababooey would be significantly impacted. Products would be more expensive, less readily available, and of course slower from manufacturer to customer.

    One reason the average guy may not think about this is because you have MBA students writing papers about when people learned to hunt, instead of researching and writing about the shortcomings of the United States present intermodal transportation system for both passengers and cargo. I am just teasing you spanielsells!!![:D][:D][:D]
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  • Colt Super
    What??

    DS.
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  • Slow_Hand
    Part of it is IMO "egg on the Feds' face". The rest is the strategic importance of the Gulf Coast in and out of the U.S.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Why can't the folks who want to live there foot the bill?What Dave W said. I also have a feeling that there wouldn't be half this much b!#$#ing if New Orleans were predominantly white and/or Republican.
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Why can't the folks who want to live there foot the bill?What Dave W said. I also have a feeling that there wouldn't be half this much b!#$#ing if New Orleans were predominantly white and/or Republican.


    If white Republicans had turned an American city into a real-life version of Mad Max, I'd write them off too
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  • v35
    OK, preserve and maybe further develop the port but not the lowland slum and crime hatchery.
    You're probably right. If it was white it would have wide support for restoration but I venture it would have been a productive city instead of the murder capitol and sinkhole for OPM (other people's money).
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  • max_power29
    Two words: Oil Infrastructure
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  • alledan
    Screaming whining blacks of course!
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by Dave W.

    One reason the average guy may not think about this is because you have MBA students writing papers about when people learned to hunt, instead of researching and writing about the shortcomings of the United States present intermodal transportation system for both passengers and cargo. I am just teasing you spanielsells!!![:D][:D][:D]


    Hey now.

    I've been writing papers on "important" subjects for 18 months now. This is the first fun topic I've ever had where I don't have to link it to some business application. I was able to sneak this under the radar because I explained that hunting numbers are in decline and it would result in significant financial impact to many states.

    I do appreciate the jab -- funny how I wasn't really planning on even opening this thread. [:D]

    You're getting a special survey. Be sure to answer the bank account and social security number questions. [}:)][}:)][}:)]
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  • Jgreen
    How about becuase it's part of AMERICA, as opposed to that shi-hole called Iraq?
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  • v35
    Good point. Countries wanting foreign aid should come crawling for it, hat in hand.
    We can't minimize the importance of oil. It's the life's blood of the civilized and not so civilized world.
    Iraq's oil revenues should indemnify those Americans injured and the families of the slain.
    I wonder how such a policy would affect the IED situation.
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  • elLOCOmutha
    Because it's American soil.
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  • SCorvers
    Dave W hit the nail on the head. If you closed the Port of NOLA, you midwesterners would scream like pinkos when the cost of KY skyrockets. I work as an Oil,Gas, and Chemical inpector on the river from St.Francisville to the mouth of the Mississippi. You shut down NOLA and you shut down America.
    Nobody alse in the U.S. wants the chem palnts and refineries that are along the river. 90% of Americans live by the Not In My Backyard credo.
    NOLA is making a comeback at full steam now, for the better. Seems they can't give away Section 8 housing. The real New Orleanians are coming back. Just drive around the city. Businesses are opening up every day. The traffic is getting bad again. The food is as good as is gets.
    Now the "dark" side of NOLA. Inept mayor, police chief, district att., thieving congressman, and hot air senator. Somehow these losers were voted back in office, BUT... it may not happen again as the folks are getting fed up. Of course with the voting population spread hither and yon the election was easily "won". Once the regitrars office starts cleaning the list of ineligible voters, I do believe you'll see a massive turn in the elected officials. The "Chocolate City" is gonna go Vannila.[:p]

    Now what you can do....Write your Congressperson and tell them you want accountability for the monies spent in NOLA. The Corps of Eng. should be doing what is neede tod shore up important sections of the city. The "Levee Boards" should be held ACCOUNTABLE. These locally appointed board members should have the qualifications and integrity to use YOUR money where it is needed.
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  • spanielsells
    Her name was NOLA, she was a show girl
    With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
    She would merengue and do the cha-cha
    And while she tried to be a star, Tony always tended bar
    Across a crowded floor, they worked from 8 till 4
    They were young and they had each other
    Who could ask for more?

    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
    The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
    Music and passion were always the fashion
    At the Copa....they fell in love

    (Copa Copacabana)

    His name was Rico, he wore a diamond
    He was escorted to his chair, he saw NOLA dancin' there
    And when she finished, he called her over
    But Rico went a bit too far, Tony sailed across the bar
    And then the punches flew and chairs were smashed in two
    There was blood and a single gun shot
    But just who shot who?

    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
    The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
    Music and passion were always the fashion
    At the Copa....she lost her love

    (Copa. . Copacabana)
    (Copa Copacabana) (Copacabana, ahh ahh ahh ahh)
    (Ahh ahh ahh ahh Copa Copacabana)
    (Talking Havana have a banana)
    (Music and passion...always the fash--shun)

    Her name is NOLA, she was a showgirl
    But that was 30 years ago, when they used to have a show
    Now it's a disco, but not for NOLA
    Still in the dress she used to wear, faded feathers in her hair
    She sits there so refined, and drinks herself half-blind
    She lost her youth and she lost her Tony
    Now she's lost her mind!

    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
    The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
    At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
    Music and passion were always the fashion
    At the Copa....don't fall in love

    (Copa) don't fall in love
    Copacabana
    Copacabana

    etc. to end
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