I wish he had tried doing himself first!
California Man Cuts Off Mom's Head With Saw, Dies Trying to Cut Off His Own
Wednesday, May 09, 2007
LA HABRA, Calif. -
An Orange County man cut off his mother's head with a circular saw and then died after trying to decapitate himself, authorities said.
Police answered a 911 report of a family dispute at a Pinehurst Avenue home just after 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, entered a locked bedroom and found the body of 60-year-old Guadalupe Ruiz on a bed, police spokeswoman Cindy Knapp said.
Arthur Ruiz Jr., 32, was on another bed with the saw nearby. He had died of neck injuries, police said.
It was unclear why Ruiz attacked his mother, police said.
A child and three other adults were in the three-bedroom home when police arrived. Several families rented rooms in the home, Knapp said.
A neighbor, Paula Sanchez, said she heard the saw before going on a daily walk but thought someone was doing work in the house or yard.
"If it would have been a gunshot or something, I would have called the police," she said.
Authorities said Ruiz pleaded guilty to driving drunk in Garden Grove in 1999, was sentenced to 45 days in jail for being under the influence of drugs in Fullerton in 2000 and was given 18 days in jail for refusing to leave a home in 2004.
Wednesday, May 09, 2007
LA HABRA, Calif. -
An Orange County man cut off his mother's head with a circular saw and then died after trying to decapitate himself, authorities said.
Police answered a 911 report of a family dispute at a Pinehurst Avenue home just after 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, entered a locked bedroom and found the body of 60-year-old Guadalupe Ruiz on a bed, police spokeswoman Cindy Knapp said.
Arthur Ruiz Jr., 32, was on another bed with the saw nearby. He had died of neck injuries, police said.
It was unclear why Ruiz attacked his mother, police said.
A child and three other adults were in the three-bedroom home when police arrived. Several families rented rooms in the home, Knapp said.
A neighbor, Paula Sanchez, said she heard the saw before going on a daily walk but thought someone was doing work in the house or yard.
"If it would have been a gunshot or something, I would have called the police," she said.
Authorities said Ruiz pleaded guilty to driving drunk in Garden Grove in 1999, was sentenced to 45 days in jail for being under the influence of drugs in Fullerton in 2000 and was given 18 days in jail for refusing to leave a home in 2004.
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See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.0 -
quote:"If it would have been a gunshot or something, I would have called the police," she said.
i guess this is a positive for gun advocates0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
circular not chainsaw,[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
circular not chainsaw,[;)]
Oh what the hell ever. You catch my point I'm sure.0 -
If it was a battery operated circular saw, it could even be carried concealed.
Maybe they should limit battery life to 10 minutes so it could do less harm.
But then guys could carry spares on their belt and reload their saw quickly.
Recharging might count for a waiting period.
But the mayor of "chocolate city" would take them away during hurricanes.0 -
quote:Originally posted by GUNFUNCO
If it was a battery operated circular saw, it could even be carried concealed.
Maybe they should limit battery life to 10 minutes so it could do less harm.
But then guys could carry spares on their belt and reload their saw quickly.
Recharging might count for a waiting period.
But the mayor of "chocolate city" would take them away during hurricanes.
Actually, we need to do away with these auto-loading batteries. You know, the founding fathers used handsaws Back In The Day and really, that's all they knew about. They couldn't possibly foresee power tools and battery-operated machinery (even Ben Franklin), but if they could, they'd want only government contractors to have them, not ordinary citizens.0 -
That would be tricky, holding the blade guard back with one hand while you endeavor to cut your own head off with the other.
I wonder if he used a plywood blade, or a ripping blade.0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
That would be tricky, holding the blade guard back with one hand while you endeavor to cut your own head off with the other.
I wonder if he used a plywood blade, or a ripping blade.
Thats what shims are for[:0][}:)]
Don0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
That would be tricky, holding the blade guard back with one hand while you endeavor to cut your own head off with the other.
I wonder if he used a plywood blade, or a ripping blade.
Is there a "slashing" blade?0 -
Moms Insisting on Licensed Tools
http://www.allmax.com/MILT/0 -
It's about damn time these psychos start using tools instead of guns. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
Just 10 days? I had to wait a month to get my permit to buy, and then 3 to get the concealed carry permit.0 -
I just applied for a concealed carry permit for my saw[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
circular not chainsaw,[;)]
Oh what the hell ever. You catch my point I'm sure.
Yeah, I think your point is you just don't like chainsaws and are using this opportunity to bash the chainsaw even when the weapon of the offender was a circular saw. Yeah, I see what is going on here.
Take a terrible incident and use it to pursue you own political purpose.
There is nothing wrong with the chainsaw. I've owned one since I was 8. A John Deere 28. Great little saw. It has never cut appendages, only limbs.
Now the circular saw...How many fingers have been lost to that device?
chainsaw basher.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
circular not chainsaw,[;)]
Oh what the hell ever. You catch my point I'm sure.
Yeah, I think your point is you just don't like chainsaws and are using this opportunity to bash the chainsaw even when the weapon of the offender was a circular saw. Yeah, I see what is going on here.
Take a terrible incident and use it to pursue you own political purpose.
There is nothing wrong with the chainsaw. I've owned one since I was 8. A John Deere 28. Great little saw. It has never cut appendages, only limbs.
Now the circular saw...How many fingers have been lost to that device?
chainsaw basher.
Dammit, do you know how many people are hurt and killed each year due to chainsaw violence? DO YOU!?!?!?!?!?!?
My gosh, man. If it can save the life of but one innocent child, then the whole thing is worth it all.0 -
I am so glad you brought up the threat of chainsaw violence.
Several years ago, while cutting firewood, I slipped and slashed my thigh with a chainsaw. It took 35 stitches to close.
Sweet Mother of God, I could have died, and all because of a chainsaw!!
Is there a government chainsaw buyback program, so that I can turn this weapon in for cash?
It would make me feel safe to know there was no chainsaw on my property.0 -
OK fine, I'll compromise. NO, I AM NOT GIVING IN. I'll agree to mandatory trigger locks on the chainsaw.
WHat a mintue...We already have that dang trigger safety! My saw is pre-trigger safety.
What more do you people want.
Screw the trigger lock!0 -
New compromise.
Maximum bar legnth. No one needs a chainsaw bar longer than 18 inches. Beyond that, it's just a waste.
This is a good compromise. We don't lose the chainsaw just the long bars.
All because somebody used a circular saw on their own head.0 -
NO COMPROMISE! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
NO COMPROMISE!
This is the whole problem with the massive power tool lobby. They won't compromise on what is just common sense power tool legislation. They're afraid if you give an inch someone will take a mile. That's just stupid, there are no examples in modern-day society where this has been done with power tools so I can't imagine what these asinine, silly fears are based upon other than pure rhetoric.
You're not interested in saving the lives of children. You must be some sort of monster.0 -
What's next, the 18 volt cordless drill?
12V is probably all you use.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
What's next, the 18 volt cordless drill?
12V is probably all you use.
You don't need anything greater than 9v.0 -
THis thread needs to get poofed before it gets real ugly. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
THis thread needs to get poofed before it gets real ugly.
Why? So the truth can be hidden?
Face it, you're beat here. All you have is rhetoric while I've been pummelling you with my factual opinion!0 -
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
That would be tricky, holding the blade guard back with one hand while you endeavor to cut your own head off with the other.
I wonder if he used a plywood blade, or a ripping blade.
Thats what shims are for[:0][}:)]
Don
Or worse yet, he may have removed the safety guard all together, altering this dangerous weapon.0 -
quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
That would be tricky, holding the blade guard back with one hand while you endeavor to cut your own head off with the other.
I wonder if he used a plywood blade, or a ripping blade.
Thats what shims are for[:0][}:)]
Don
Or worse yet, he may have removed the safety guard all together, altering this dangerous weapon.
So why hasn't UL or Good Housekeeping gone after him and the store that sold the power tool?0 -
I just realized I'm coming at this all wrong.
And so are the rest of you.
This is all Bush's fault.0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
That would be tricky, holding the blade guard back with one hand while you endeavor to cut your own head off with the other.
I wonder if he used a plywood blade, or a ripping blade.
Thats what shims are for[:0][}:)]
Don
I guess the mother's family could sue the guy's estate for removing a guard.
Wait!!! OSHA can do an investigation!!!!
Or worse yet, he may have removed the safety guard all together, altering this dangerous weapon.
So why hasn't UL or Good Housekeeping gone after him and the store that sold the power tool?0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
Let me know if you want one of my Battery powered Chainsaw Bayonets. I got the price down to $500 a unit, comes with 2 batteries.0 -
quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
See. Now a chainsaw has no other purpose other than to destroy things. It certainly has no sporting purpose, and according to HR1022, just because you can find a sporting purpose for something (such as what they show on ESPN2), that does not create a sporting purpose (dont'cha just love that language?).
Of course, the pro-chainsaw nutcases will say that they can do positive things with chainsaws, but really, they're a bunch of morons and have chainsaws just because of their pen!s envy.
The reasonable, common-sense approach to all this is to register chainsaws and probably place a 10-day waiting period on them, especially after some natural disaster has happened. After all, you never know what kind of unstable person would get their hands on a chainsaw.
And, on top of that, did you know that it is easier to get a chainsaw than it is to get a driver's license?
Oh and we should really limit chainsaws to having no more than 10 teeth.
Let me know if you want one of my Battery powered Chainsaw Bayonets. I got the price down to $500 a unit, comes with 2 batteries.
What sort of batteries does it run on? I really don't think I should have anything more powerful than a single AAA. Do you think I'd have to register it? Is there a waiting period? Does Good Housekeeping approve? How about Diane Feinstein and Chuck Schumer?0
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