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Henry0Reilly
The original question was "What load for 38 snubby?"

quote:Originally posted by theboogeyman
quote:Originally posted by CapnMidnight
royce,
I've put alot of time into this subject,and came up with a load that works good in all of the 2" 38s I've tried them in. Everyone that I know, that has one uses my load and is happy with it. That said, I don't know how prolonged shooting in "air weight" frames would effect them. 158gr XTP/HP Hornaday over 6.5grns Blue Dot with CCI 450 small pistol magnum primers. Every gun I've tried it in will hold 2" at 15yds. The idea is to use small amount of fast burning powder, and light it quick and hot. All the powder in the world doesn't do any good if it's not all burnt befor it gets out of the barrel.
I came up with this load about 4 years ago, and have shot it alot in my J frame Smith and my wifes Taurus 85 with no ill effects. Hope this helps.
W.D.


Hey Capn...are you recommending that for practice or self defense? I'm a big of fan of Hornady XTPs as anyone, but I don't think it's a good idea to carry reloads for self defense, legal-wise....Just my $0.02....



I know this is beating a dead horse for some but maybe others haven't discussed it or seen it discussed. I carry "reloaded" ammunition in my revolvers. It is commercially reloaded by Scroggins of Martinsville (Indiana) but even if I reloaded myself I sure wouldn't be concerned with any legal repercussions about the load. Somebody that needs shot (i.e. deadly force is clearly justified) needs shot with whatever load you happen to have handy. If they don't need shot, using a reloaded cartridge won't make the case against you any worse.
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  • spanielsells
    Agreed. Ammo is ammo. So long as it is reliable, that's all that matters in the end.

    I can't imagine being sued for shooting someone with reloaded ammo.
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  • p3skyking
    Twenty years ago I would have agreed with both of you. About that time I got ahold of a copy of Duncan Long's Combat Ammunition Everything You Need to Know. Duncan covered all the bases with perfected and devastating pistol, rifle, and shotgun rounds. This ammo that you could make yourself absolutely DID NOT conform to the Geneva and Hague Conventions.

    Now if that ammo was used today I could see in a civil suit someone saying that having used that ammo, pain, suffering, and grevious wounds were intentionally inflicted. Since the target would probably be dead, that he suffered tremendously immediately prior to his demise.

    With storebought ammo, it would be easy enough to say that you asked for ammo and MagSafe or Corbon is what you were handed. With reloads however, they were taylored to your specific intent which was to inflict said pain and suffering.

    If you can find that book, take a look at some of the stuff. It DOES do what is claimed and is way more potent that anything commercially.

    Edited book title to remove "Improvised"
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  • Tailgunner1954
    The thinking among the paranoid, and started by Masood Araib (sp), is that using reloads will open you up to the "he was planning to do great harm to by using specialy constructed "more lethal" ammo". Along the same lines as using "Magnum" instead of standard ammo to shoot the turd, school of thought.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    The thinking among the paranoid, and started by Masood Araib (sp), is that using reloads will open you up to the "he was planning to do great harm to by using specialy constructed "more lethal" ammo". Along the same lines as using "Magnum" instead of standard ammo to shoot the turd, school of thought.
    My defense? "I used whatever force I deemed a prudent person would use when confronted with a violent maniac hell-bent on doing me physical harm... and I neutralized the situation."
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