Utah miner's Update
Just saw on CNN. 1 mine rescuer killed and 8 injured in mine bump. Very sad.
Update-AP reports a second mine rescuer has died.
Update-AP reports a second mine rescuer has died.
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Those guys have more guts than the average bear!
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No way I could do it. Bless the ones that can and do! 0 -
SAD, VERY SAD [V] 0 -
Not changing the subject, but I collect old WW2 pin-up art. You should check out OLIVIA prints ljwrench 0 -
Surely by now it's probably turned into a recovery mission. Maybe the decent thing to do would be to pull everyone out and seal the mine before someone else gets killed. I really feel for those guys who are stuck in there. 0 -
Zebra-I'll check it out. Do the have a website? I would love to find a copy of the gal that's on my grandpa's bomber jacket. 0 -
Zebra-I'll check it out. Do the have a website? I would love to find a copy of the gal that's on my grandpa's bomber jacket. 0 -
http://www.thepinupfiles.com/oliviaindex.html
I have some of her catalogs. her stuff is getting expensive0 -
Just saw where the second had died and 7 wounded.
I worked underground for four years.
Sarge_3ad
You said.. "Maybe the decent thing to do would be to pull everyone out and seal the mine before someone else gets killed."
Only one way that will happen. If gases (Methane, Carbon dioxide, Natural gas) levels are so high that an explosion is inmate, a fire or the mine floods and cant be pumped will the recuse/recovery effort be called off. As long as the conditions exist they will not stop until they get those guys out dead or alive no matter how long it takes. You just don't leave a brother underground miner behind.0 -
what is a bump? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Kimbercolt
what is a bump?
Seismic jolts, known as a bump in mining language, are often caused by compression of coal pillars and are most common in the deepest mines, like Crandall, where the pillars hold the most weight. Over the last two decades, mines in Utah have pushed past depths of 1,500 feet, which had been considered an impassable barrier with older technologies and a depth where some experts believe coal reaches risky weight-bearing limits.
NY Times!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
Just saw where the second had died and 7 wounded.
I worked underground for four years.
Sarge_3ad
You said.. "Maybe the decent thing to do would be to pull everyone out and seal the mine before someone else gets killed."
Only one way that will happen. If gases (Methane, Carbon dioxide, Natural gas) levels are so high that an explosion is inmate, a fire or the mine floods and cant be pumped will the recuse/recovery effort be called off. As long as the conditions exist they will not stop until they get those guys out dead or alive no matter how long it takes. You just don't leave a brother underground miner behind.
Just like a soldier, I can understand. [:(]0 -
I'm no mine rescue expert, but how come they didn't drill a large hole (24") and lower rescuers down behind the collapse in a basket like the have in PA and other mine rescues??? It seems like these guys have been slow at getting more help and equipment. They keep saying a couple more days to dig out, they haven't even dug in half way yet! Its seems clear to me that this mountain is very unstable and tunneling is not the way to go. [:(]
With respect to all involved, lets hope they can get those guys out alive.0 -
...3 dead rescuers. I cant believe anyone would subscribe to the idea of stopping?? As long as there are volunteers willing to go in, the effort should continue period! This aint Russia or China...[;)] 
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It is a real tragedy. I feel for those guys trapped underground, that has to be a real hell, if they survived the initial cave in.
What a tough way to make a living.
But, we gotta have that coal. I am using it right now, need that a/c today, plus computer and refrigerator, and well pump.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ljwrench
Zebra-I'll check it out. Do the have a website? I would love to find a copy of the gal that's on my grandpa's bomber jacket.
Alberto Vargas pin-up. Esquire Magazine Feburary 1945.0 -
You know.
I find it highly disrespectful, uncaring and down right sicking that someone would be trying to sale pin up art on a thread such as this.[V]
Human beings are dead and wounded. Not just human beings but American men that just went to work to help support their families.
I guess it goes to show just how some people's true colors really run.0 -
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quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
Just saw where the second had died and 7 wounded.
I worked underground for four years.
Sarge_3ad
You said.. "Maybe the decent thing to do would be to pull everyone out and seal the mine before someone else gets killed."
Only one way that will happen. If gases (Methane, Carbon dioxide, Natural gas) levels are so high that an explosion is inmate, a fire or the mine floods and cant be pumped will the recuse/recovery effort be called off. As long as the conditions exist they will not stop until they get those guys out dead or alive no matter how long it takes. You just don't leave a brother underground miner behind.
I can understand that.0 -
ok, they haven't got to the miners yet, any word on the success of those air holes they were trying to drill? 0
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