Hey fatboy (german topic)
I've wanted to comment on your signature for awhile, as I love german and am a bit of a nut- but then I teach it! [:D]
"Obwohl sie versuchen, die Flamme zu ersticken, werden sie versagen. Die fatboy Leben." I'm curious where you got this quote. It's cool, but it smacks of an online translator. I may be totally off base, and nuts, but if you want a good translation, here are my thoughts.
If it was your intent to say, "although they seek to extinguish the flame, they will fail. The fatboy lives," I would translate it as: Obwohl sie versuchen, die Flamme zu erl?schen (ersticken is to smother, die of lack of air; but erl?schen is more specifically to extinguish a flame; it depends what you mean. If you do mean smother, not extinguish, leave it as is), werden sie versagen (one of many words that means to fail, generally related to mechanical problems; I would probably go with es vers?umen, but versagen in its general sense is ok too).
Now to "Die fatboy leben." First off, translating fatboy is problematic. It is functioning as a proper name, so I wouldn't even bother, but "die" is the german definite article for either plurals or feminine nouns. It is in any case therefore incorrect. Boy is not plural, and one could make a case for it being "der" as it is masculine, or "das" as it is both a foreign word, and because Germans for some reason feel the need to refer to children as "it" in english. Das Kind, das Baby, etc. So I would probably opt to go with "das." Either way, it is singular, as the plural of a foreign word is generally formed by adding an "s", and you are one guy (I assume). Ergo, the verb needs to be conjugated; the third person masculine singular conjugation of the infinitive leben (to live) is lebt. So, Das Fatboy lebt.
Should you wish to translate fatboy to something in German, Der Dicke (the fat one) or der dicke Junge (the fat young one) or der dicke Knabe or der dicke Bub (both about as close to the fat boy as I can get) would all be be acceptable. So, der dicke Bub lebt.
My best translation: Obwohl sie versuchen, die Flamme zu erl?schen, werden sie es vers?umen. Das Fatboy lebt.
Perhaps any other german speakers will chime in?
"Obwohl sie versuchen, die Flamme zu ersticken, werden sie versagen. Die fatboy Leben." I'm curious where you got this quote. It's cool, but it smacks of an online translator. I may be totally off base, and nuts, but if you want a good translation, here are my thoughts.
If it was your intent to say, "although they seek to extinguish the flame, they will fail. The fatboy lives," I would translate it as: Obwohl sie versuchen, die Flamme zu erl?schen (ersticken is to smother, die of lack of air; but erl?schen is more specifically to extinguish a flame; it depends what you mean. If you do mean smother, not extinguish, leave it as is), werden sie versagen (one of many words that means to fail, generally related to mechanical problems; I would probably go with es vers?umen, but versagen in its general sense is ok too).
Now to "Die fatboy leben." First off, translating fatboy is problematic. It is functioning as a proper name, so I wouldn't even bother, but "die" is the german definite article for either plurals or feminine nouns. It is in any case therefore incorrect. Boy is not plural, and one could make a case for it being "der" as it is masculine, or "das" as it is both a foreign word, and because Germans for some reason feel the need to refer to children as "it" in english. Das Kind, das Baby, etc. So I would probably opt to go with "das." Either way, it is singular, as the plural of a foreign word is generally formed by adding an "s", and you are one guy (I assume). Ergo, the verb needs to be conjugated; the third person masculine singular conjugation of the infinitive leben (to live) is lebt. So, Das Fatboy lebt.
Should you wish to translate fatboy to something in German, Der Dicke (the fat one) or der dicke Junge (the fat young one) or der dicke Knabe or der dicke Bub (both about as close to the fat boy as I can get) would all be be acceptable. So, der dicke Bub lebt.
My best translation: Obwohl sie versuchen, die Flamme zu erl?schen, werden sie es vers?umen. Das Fatboy lebt.
Perhaps any other german speakers will chime in?
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Jonk... I have already posed that to him. I agree that he must have used an online translator or has very limited knowledge of the German language and simply did the best he could.
Jonk.. I assume you have traveled to Germany also. My family is from Kassel. Hopefully I can get some time off this year and can take my husband over there.0 -
yeah, but it doesn't flow naturally from the lips like the spoken word. it sounds halting. I think it should read
Obwohl sie versuchen die Flamme zu ersticken, sie werden versagen.
wouldn't a german use that sentence structure instead?0 -
After a subordinate clause, such as the one started by obwohl, you start the independent clause with the main verb. Starting with the "sie" is colloquially often used, but is not correct. You could omit the comma in the subordinate clause though. I am comma happy, both in English and German.
I've travelled in Germany, yes. I lived in Salzburg for a year. Or if you prefer, in my best Salzburgerisch-shorthand- Ii hob' ohn jahr in Soitsburg gewohnt. Never been to Kassel though.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jonk
After a subordinate clause, such as the one started by obwohl, you start the independent clause with the main verb. Starting with the "sie" is colloquially often used, but is not correct. You could omit the comma in the subordinate clause though. I am comma happy, both in English and German.
I've travelled in Germany, yes. I lived in Salzburg for a year. Or if you prefer, in my best Salzburgerisch-shorthand- Ii hob' ohn jahr in Soitsburg gewohnt. Never been to Kassel though.
Salzburg is a nice area. My mother went to college in Gottingen as an English major to become a translator. Here is a little funny story for you....
When my daughter started school, here in South East Georgia, I was called in because of her "speech problem". Her grandmother is German, her Godmother is German, and the other lady she speant a great amount of time with is English. So needless to say my kid did NOT have a "southern accent" the school insisted on sending her to speech therapy! The wonders of the public school systems! Needless to say she is in private school now and her current teachers marvel at her diction.0 -
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Its simple hillbilly german, as I speak hillbilly anglish.[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Fatboy lives
Its simple hillbilly german, as I speak hillbilly anglish.[:D]
In your attempt to appear educated, you just look foolish.
Sorta short of 1,000 for the past year, eh? LMAO.0 -
I was told in no uncertain terms last night that ANY attempt to be technically correct on any subject is nothing more than an effort by some over educated nit-pickers to massage their own egos. 0 -
On the other hand, if there weren't a few people around to pick some of those nits, just think how much nit would be lying around everywhere. You'd be stepping in nit everyplace you went.[}:)] 0 -
Still wanting to play with a lightsaber hairy?quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by Fatboy lives
Its simple hillbilly german, as I speak hillbilly anglish.[:D]
In your attempt to appear educated, you just look foolish.
Sorta short of 1,000 for the past year, eh? LMAO.0 -
Sogar Narren sprechen Deutsch 0 -
jonk,
Fatboy and his neo-jedi clubhouse friends have a real fetish for German even though they can't speak a lick of it.0 -
If you don't like my hillbilly version of german, then don't be reading it. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by kristov
I was told in no uncertain terms last night that ANY attempt to be technically correct on any subject is nothing more than an effort by some over educated nit-pickers to massage their own egos.
GEEeeEEeEEeezz, you think you know everything! (rolls eyeballs) [:o)]0
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