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  • AHansen
    Buy a new Springfield M1A Socom or a car for my 16 yr old?
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  • AHansen
    I'm selling some antique handguns on the auction side, and someone emailed me asking if they can stop by and take a look at my guns. I would like to be accomodating in that sense, but I also don't like the idea of someone coming to my house. It makes me think that a person could be casing the place or worse. Would anyone here let some stranger in their house to look at their merchandise?
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  • AHansen
    On Jan. 31st I bought a S&W sw40ve Sigma for $380. I found out I don't like the trigger pull at all, it's really heavy. So I was gonna sell it to a fellow at work for $350, and put this down on a XD40. I found a dealer 10 miles from my house (I live in bum Heck western Iowa) that wiil sell me a XD40 (all black) nib for $425. Or a XD40 V10 (ported barrell) for $470 nib ( I might have this confused with the 1/2 black, 1/2 stainless. I'm so confused.). Now the guy at work wants to trade me a Stoegor Condor O/U 12 gauge for the S&W. Do I take the shotgun instead of cash? Which XD to buy? I know I want a 40 S&W cal. Is the ported any better? As for muzzle jump at all? Is the ported louder?

    I don't want to make another mistake like I did with the sw40ve Sigma
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  • AHansen
    I had a guy win my auction back on the Jan 5th. He asked if I could wait til the 18th for him to get paid. Said he would send payment on the 18th. The 18th has come and gone. He sent an email about 5 days ago saying the ffl and the mo were in the mail. But nothing has arrived.

    I sent email last night and I haven't heard back. Granted it's only been 12 hours but he is 7 days past when he said he would mail payment.

    Should I await his email?

    File NON pay bidder on him?

    Or Should I wait until todays mail run and make sure nothing shows up?

    He bought some ammo from me and he was johnny on the spot with payment. Sent payment next day delivery usps.

    I don't want hard feelings, but I am trying to wrap up my auctions and move on.

    Any suggestions?
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  • AHansen
    I have two Remington 700 Senderos in .300 Rem. Ultra Mag. I was pondering whether I sould try to trade one in on an AR-15, or just keep it. The AR would go nicely with my current collection of mostly military surplus arms, yet would still be fun and cheaper to shoot than the .300. However, the Remingtons were a gift from my father-in-law. What should I do?

    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."Mark_II@gunbroker.zzn.com
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  • AHansen
    Way back in August (August 6th to be exact) I placed an order with Makarov.com for a few springs, a threaded 380 barrel and a barrel press.
    I received part of the order on August 12th (minus the barrel, and barrel press). My credit card was only charged for the sent items.
    I waited 2 days, and the emailed Karl (the owner) and asked him about the order. He said the barrels were "tied up in customs with Federal Arms".
    I waited a full month (September 12th), but never received the parts or any updates from Karl or his staff on the status of my order. I sent him an email asking him to cancel my order.
    September 15th I received an email back from him stating he would cancel my order.
    September 24th I receive the barrel and barrel press. My credit card statement says I was charged on the September 23rd (9 days, after I canceled the order).
    This put me in an awkward situation since I was skating thin, until my next paycheck.
    I wrote Karl back that day explaining the situation, and asking him to please credit my account.
    His response was to "send back the items and then he would issue the funds back".
    I explained that since he withdrew the funds I didn't have enough money to eat, let alone ship his items back.
    Over the past couple of days (25th, 26th) I made several request to credit my account before I was charged overdraft fees on some incoming items.
    He never responded.
    Long story short, I now have 60 dollars in overdraft fees as a result of his poor order management.
    Here is the correspondence...

    From: "karl@makarov.com"
    To: "thesupermonkey@hotmail.com"
    Subject: Your makarovpistol.com order has been received Date:
    Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:46:14 -0400
    Your order has been received and submitted to our sales
    department.
    For questions regarding your makarovpistol.com order, please
    contact
    karl@makarov.com or 1-888-625-3925
    Please note that Express orders are USPS Priority Mail, NOT
    Express (Overnight) Mail.
    - Order #********* 8/6/02
    9:46:10 AM EST
    - BILLING INFO SHIPPING INFO
    Adam Davis Adam Davis
    ********* *********
    ********* *********
    ********* *********
    thesupermonkey@hotmail.com
    Q Item # Description Unit $
    1 63BarrelPres PA-63 Barrel Press 34.00
    1 63springset PA63 Spring Set 9.00
    1 63th380 PA63 Threaded 380 65.00
    1 thrdprotecto PA-63 Thread Protector 5.00
    Subtotal 113.00
    Express Shipping 5.00
    Paid by Visa #****-XXXX-XXXX-**** Total
    $118.00


    From: "Shadow Dragon"
    To: karl@makarov.com
    Subject: Order #*********
    Date sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:47:18 +0000
    I placed an order for the following parts on Aug 6th.
    I did receive the spring set, but I did not receive the other
    parts. Is there a problem with the order? Please email or call me
    if there is anything I can do. Thanks, Adam Davis


    From: "Karl F. Bloss"
    Reply-To: karl@makarovpistol.com
    To: "Shadow Dragon"
    Subject: Re: Order #*********
    Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:09:23 -0700
    Sorry for the Delay, we are still waiting on the Treaded barrels from
    FAC.
    With any luck they should be here this week.

    From: "Shadow Dragon"
    To: info@makarov.com
    Subject: Re: Order #*********
    Date sent: Wed, 13 Sep 2002 13:57:20 +0000
    I would like to cancel any outstanding items on the above order.
    Adam Davis

    From: "Karl F. Bloss"
    Reply-To: info@makarov.com
    To: "Shadow Dragon"
    Subject: Re: Order #*********
    Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:09:18 -0700
    Hi Adam,
    We'll do as you requested. Note that we JUST got the barrels and presses
    in on Friday. Let me know if you're interested.
    Sorry for the long delay, but they were tied up in customs with Federal
    Arms.
    -Karl

    From: "Shadow Dragon"
    To: info@makarov.com
    Subject: Re: Order #*********
    Date sent: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:57:20 +0000
    Hi Karl,
    I just received a barrel and barrel press(Pa63) from a previous order I
    had canceled on the 15th. It's very important my card NOT be charged for
    these items or if it has I need the amount to be credited back into my
    account as soon as possible. I will ship the items back to you on
    Friday (that's my off day). Thanks, Adam Davis

    From: "Karl F. Bloss"
    Reply-To: info@makarov.com
    To: "Shadow Dragon"
    Subject: Re: Order #*********
    Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:36:51 -0700
    Sorry for the confusion, your request to cancel the order came in after it had
    been processed. Return the Items and I will give you full credit for them.

    Wed, 25 Sep 2002
    (Don't have a copy of the correspondence, it was a nicer version of the below)

    Thu, 26 Sep 2002
    PLEASE RESPOND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
    Karl,
    Had this been a simple, items crossed in the mail I would have sent you back your items before requesting my funds back. However, nearly TWO FULL WEEKS after I had requested my order to be canceled, I was charged and the items were sent. This has placed me in a real bind. As of today I've had 3 overdraft fees, all of them, on items less than 10 dollars. That's over 60 dollars in overdraft fees. The error was on YOUR side so please do the right thing and credit my account asap!
    Thanks,
    Adam

    Fri, 27 Sep 2002
    Karl,
    I'm very disappointed with your service. I had bought from you before and was very pleased, but apparently the quality of your staff and customer service has declined greatly since then.
    I placed my order on August 6th.
    I received part of my order on August 12th with no explanation for the missing parts.
    On August 14th after sending you an email about the missing parts you said the parts may or may not be in, within a week.
    I waited a full month (with no updates from you or your staff), before canceling my order.
    You wrote back saying you would cancel my order on September 15th.
    My check card was charged on the September 23rd and I received the items the 25th.
    The item was shipped 9 days after you had confirmed my cancellation. This indicates a break down in communication on your end. The withdraw of those funds from my account cost me over 60 dollars in overdraft fees. I see that debt as YOUR obligation, though I have no way of making you pay. Restore my good faith in your company and pay for the debts you have caused me to incur through your poor management. I will be sending your items back today, or early Saturday. At the very minimum I expect full reimbursement for the items and the s/h required to send it back to you. Otherwise I will be forced to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
    Sincerely,
    Adam Davis


    Edited by - thesupermonkey on 09/27/2002 11:16:03
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  • Marc1301
    Springfield,..........it will cost you much less, especially in the long run!
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  • Rockatansky
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Springfield,..........it will cost you much less, especially in the long run!


    +1

    though, I would get something from LRB Arms rather than Springfield, but it's me.
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  • Dakota308
    16 year old will at least have one wreck its bound to happen. and he will get a better understanding of life if he buys his own car. get the gun and let him shoot it everyonce in a while he will enjoy it more than a car as well
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  • Marc1301
    I was going to say the same, but chose not to.
    I had to buy my own first car, and it had nothing to do with whether my mother could afford it or not.
    The first was a '72 Challenger, and had to do a lot of work to it, to turn it into a beauty.
    By the time came to graduate High School, I bought a brand new 1980 Camaro Z-28.
    I paid for the car payments, and for the insurance.
    Taught me a lot of responsibility, but everyone views this scenario from a different angle.
    The decision you make at this stage of his life though, WILL affect many things going forward.
    Take it for what it's worth![;)]
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  • slipgate
    Get the car for the poor kid! No contest, your 16 year old is more important than (another) gun!

    When you're old and grey will his decision be, "let's see, put him in a home, or let him live with me".
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  • Odawgp
    Can i ask you why the 16yr old isn't buying its own car?

    When i started to drive. '93, I and can remeber most kids driving the farm truck to and from school. at that time it was unheard of that parents buy them a car @16 sure you can or might help them out a little here and there. And the kids that did drive newer vehicles had jobs and where buying them or had bought them a few yrs after turning 16.
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  • Marc1301
    If he buys him the car,........the funny part is, that is when he would be more likely to put a parent into a home. Sorry!
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  • Fatstrat
    I think you should buy him a car. But not an expensive one as I agree that most teenagers, both boys AND girls will tear up their 1st.
    And make it clear that to drive it he will be expected to get a job and pay his own insurance, gas & upkeep.
    I too bought my 1st car (1975). But I don't hold it against him that he can't buy his own. Things are different these days. It's much harder w/the child labor laws for pre-16 yr olds to even GET a job.
    And after they are 16, they'll need transportation to/from any job the find. And IMO working a part time job while still in HS is important and is good for getting his feet wet in life lessons.
    Let's face it. Most people don't like to work. And do so only because they HAVE TO. Your son will likely be no different. But having to work in order to drive his car is good training for later years when he has to work to make a living.
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  • dakotashooter2
    Put 1/2 down on the Springfield M1A Socom and the other 1/2 towards the kids car and make him work for the rest.[:D]
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  • AHansen
    OK 16 yr old is a girl... have a young man coming up soon. The car is not thiers to keep, but have the privelage to drive and run other kids around for us. As for the car. I found a nice honda that i am going to paint with rhino liner. She will soon be working after school to pay for gas. I refuse to just buy my kids thier own car. They can share the one i say they can. And so far, i hope i don'y have to live with my kids when i get old.[:)]

    As for the springfiels. I just feel i need to have one.[:D]
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  • Marc1301
    Wellllllllll now, that is a whole different ballgame!
    Still,.......get your gun first![:D][;)]
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  • AHansen
    I wanted to get one that really looked beat up so thier friends wouldn't want to be seen in it.
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  • Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by AHansen
    I wanted to get one that really looked beat up so thier friends wouldn't want to be seen in it.

    [:D][:D]
    That just might work in this day and age!
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  • Odawgp
    quote:Originally posted by AHansen
    I wanted to get one that really looked beat up so thier friends wouldn't want to be seen in it.



    yup, the farm truck worked great for that.

    my friends won't come near it once they learn the mud on the outside is really dried cow poop.
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  • Colt Super
    I got my oldest Daughter a standard cab '83 F-150 with the 300 cu in six. It was slow, it cost a lot to feed, you could only put a few kids in it, it had a standard AM/FM radio with no jack for an MP3, and it was ugly. No collision or comp - liability only. She had to pay for gas, insurance and upkeep.

    It worked out well. No accidents, no hurt kids, and a graduate Biologist for a Daughter.

    Doug
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  • iluvguns
    quote:I found a nice honda that i am going to paint with rhino liner.

    I've got to see that! Please post a pic when finished! My dad bought a car for me when I turned 16. A 1974 AMC Hornet. [:o)] I didn't car. It had a motor and 4 tires. I paid the gas and insurance working a p/t job. He made it clear that it was still HIS car. After 1 1/2 years, when my sister got her license, it went to her. I had to buy my own or walk. But working for that year and a half made all the difference in the world. I knew how to manage my money, had managed to save up enough for a 1971 Dodge Charger. Then reality hit when I went to insure it! But it helped me a lot for dad to pay for the first one and teach me how to care for it and manage well. Buy her the car, rhino line it, and let her get her feet wet.
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  • jwb267
    i had to pay for a car that my father picked out. if i wanted to drive[V][V]
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