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Mexican President: We Are Coming!
Friday, September 28, 2007 10:19 AM
PUERTO PENASCO, Mexico - Mexican President Felipe Calderon told U.S. governors Thursday that immigration is an inevitable, natural phenomenon and he urged the U.S. Congress to approve reforms that would allow more Mexicans to work legally north of the border.
Calderon demanded that the United States respect "the right to work wherever one can make the greatest contribution."
"Immigration is a natural phenomenon that is economically and socially inevitable," he told the meeting in this Sonora seaside resort town.
In a rare acknowledgment of the costs of migration for Mexico, Calderon said his country "doesn't not celebrate migration ... our best people are the ones who go."
Immigration and border security were among the top issues at the meeting, the 25th annual such event between Mexican and U.S. governors from states along the two countries' common border. Mexican officials were focused on stopping the illegal flow of U.S. weapons into Mexico and protesting expansion of U.S. border fencing. For the Americans, the drug trade, migration and border security topped the list.
On Monday, the U.S. government announced plans to erect about 370 miles (600 kilometers) of fencing and 200 miles (320 kilometers) of vehicle barriers by the end of 2008.
Tension over the fences - which have drawn criticism from environmentalists, land owners and politicians both in Mexico and the United States - surfaced at the meeting.
"This is the great tragedy," said Carlos de la Parra, a participant in the conference's environmental panel, as he pointed to a map of proposed border fences separating nature reserves. Mentioning a list of wildlife that migrates across the border, Parra, of Mexico's Colegio de la Frontera, noted "these animals don't cross the border to shop. They do it out of necessity."
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has opposed the border fencing, praised Mexico and its cooperation with its northern neighbor.
"The relationship has become stronger and stronger each year," he said. "We have become more than just good neighbors. We have become great friends."
Describing his many visits to Mexico since his first one 40 years ago, Schwarzenegger lifted a line from his movie "Terminator," quipping, "I always look forward to saying, 'I'll be back."
Eduardo Bours, governor of the border state of Sonora, called for more border crossings, saying those that exist between Arizona and Sonora are saturated.
"There are lines of three, four and five hours, and so we have to invest much more in border crossings," he said.
He also called for a crackdown on U.S. weapons that "cross the border all too easily." Calderon said weapons illicitly smuggled in from the U.S. had been responsible for killing dozens of Mexican policemen
While all the Mexican governors were scheduled to attend, half of the U.S. contingent of governors - New Mexico's Bill Richardson and Texas' Rick Perry were not coming.
Richardson, who is making a presidential bid, did not give a reason for his absence; Perry's office cited a scheduling conflict.
c 2007 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Maybe he ought to look at his immigration rules and open his borders like he wants our. Close the borders and enforce our laws
Mexican President: We Are Coming!
Friday, September 28, 2007 10:19 AM
PUERTO PENASCO, Mexico - Mexican President Felipe Calderon told U.S. governors Thursday that immigration is an inevitable, natural phenomenon and he urged the U.S. Congress to approve reforms that would allow more Mexicans to work legally north of the border.
Calderon demanded that the United States respect "the right to work wherever one can make the greatest contribution."
"Immigration is a natural phenomenon that is economically and socially inevitable," he told the meeting in this Sonora seaside resort town.
In a rare acknowledgment of the costs of migration for Mexico, Calderon said his country "doesn't not celebrate migration ... our best people are the ones who go."
Immigration and border security were among the top issues at the meeting, the 25th annual such event between Mexican and U.S. governors from states along the two countries' common border. Mexican officials were focused on stopping the illegal flow of U.S. weapons into Mexico and protesting expansion of U.S. border fencing. For the Americans, the drug trade, migration and border security topped the list.
On Monday, the U.S. government announced plans to erect about 370 miles (600 kilometers) of fencing and 200 miles (320 kilometers) of vehicle barriers by the end of 2008.
Tension over the fences - which have drawn criticism from environmentalists, land owners and politicians both in Mexico and the United States - surfaced at the meeting.
"This is the great tragedy," said Carlos de la Parra, a participant in the conference's environmental panel, as he pointed to a map of proposed border fences separating nature reserves. Mentioning a list of wildlife that migrates across the border, Parra, of Mexico's Colegio de la Frontera, noted "these animals don't cross the border to shop. They do it out of necessity."
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has opposed the border fencing, praised Mexico and its cooperation with its northern neighbor.
"The relationship has become stronger and stronger each year," he said. "We have become more than just good neighbors. We have become great friends."
Describing his many visits to Mexico since his first one 40 years ago, Schwarzenegger lifted a line from his movie "Terminator," quipping, "I always look forward to saying, 'I'll be back."
Eduardo Bours, governor of the border state of Sonora, called for more border crossings, saying those that exist between Arizona and Sonora are saturated.
"There are lines of three, four and five hours, and so we have to invest much more in border crossings," he said.
He also called for a crackdown on U.S. weapons that "cross the border all too easily." Calderon said weapons illicitly smuggled in from the U.S. had been responsible for killing dozens of Mexican policemen
While all the Mexican governors were scheduled to attend, half of the U.S. contingent of governors - New Mexico's Bill Richardson and Texas' Rick Perry were not coming.
Richardson, who is making a presidential bid, did not give a reason for his absence; Perry's office cited a scheduling conflict.
c 2007 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Maybe he ought to look at his immigration rules and open his borders like he wants our. Close the borders and enforce our laws
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I'll be your neighbor divebomb and select-fire!![:)] The flow of illegals would slow down there in a hurry. I'll be glad to wear out a couple of barrels in my garand. If I couldn't afford a house down there my christmas presents would be ammo to send your way and maybe a week of "vacation" to visit you two. Another thought, instead of simply blowing up old ordnance to get rid of it put it along the border along with all the old land mines. When one illegal steps on a land mine the explosion sets off all of the other ordnance. Two birds with one stone! My second idea for immigration "reform" is to send military snipers down there to qualify and stay sharp on long distance shots. Prego's count for 2.
I know I have some harsh "solutions" but some countries shoot their own citizens for trying to leave their country so I should be legally allowed to shoot illegals for trying to enter mine. I'm suprised you don't hear much about ranchers along the border going to prision for killing illegals who trash their farms and livelihoods. I know I would be in prision in a hurry!0 -
Caldereon also said that Mexico wasn't going to participate in the Olympics anymore.
Seems every Mexican that can run, jump or swim has left the country.
Their best sport appears to be Cross Country.0 -
quote:Originally posted by flyingtorpedo
Another thought, instead of simply blowing up old ordinance to get rid of it put it along the border along with all the old land mines.
Welcome to the forum Flyingtorpedo.
And the resultant explosion will scatter public records, minutes of the town council, and proposed new laws? [:o)]
We had a weapon aboard ship called an ASROC. It was in effect, a flying torpedo loaded into a fixed launcher. A rocket motor was attached to an anti-submarine torpedo and would hurl the homing torp toward a subsurface target.
The spelling you should use is O-R-D-N-A-N-C-E. [;)]0 -
I think they should let the good ole boys, handle the problem. 0 -
Originally posted by Old Fool
It should be legal for any US Citizen to shoot to kill any illegal alien.
Since you usually can't tell an illegal from actual citizens, then what. Just shoot 'em all? And to MrSeatle (about as disturbing as when I found out there were Mexican Jews), first learn to correctly spell the name of the city you apparently live in before you gas the Jews. Sometimes this forum reminds me of Nazi Germany. You are showing about as much tolerance as they did.
I am totally against illegal immigration but why not spend as much time writing your legislator about your feelings, and possibly accomplish something, versus spending all your time making these stupid comments. Tell them to enforce the laws we already have or you will vote their ass out of office! And BTW, I live in Phoenix where an illegal just shot and killed a LEO - I have absolutely no problem about standing that guy up against a wall and letting you guys have a go at him. In fact, I'd be the first in line.0 -
Originally posted by p3skyking
The spelling you should use is O-R-D-N-A-N-C-E. [;)]
Thanks for the correction p3skyking[:)] Don't know what I was thinking. Only think I can think of is making my use of ORDNANCE an ORDINANCE[;)] As you can see I hate illegals!
lololand11 you better get up early or I'll beat you to the front of the line! And use a small caliber so the a$$ has to suffer longer[:D][}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by lololand11
Since you usually can't tell an illegal from actual citizens, then what. Just shoot 'em all? And to MrSeatle (about as disturbing as when I found out there were Mexican Jews), first learn to correctly spell the name of the city you apparently live in before you gas the Jews. Sometimes this forum reminds me of Nazi Germany. You are showing about as much tolerance as they did.
...God will know his own. & Don't get me started on what Hitler's AshkeNAZI's did to the other Jews. They called Jesus a "Samaritan" as an insult, should show you how certain levels of their Pyramid Scheme disappear every once in a while, throughout history.
btw, nice Mateba0
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