thnking glock
Im thinking about swaping my 40 ups compact hk for a glock 21 or 30 (45 acp). So I can save some money(sell my hk and buy a cheaper gun). I also think the 45 will be easier for me to shoot than 40. Everyone im talking to says the 40 is torquey on recoil which I also find in my hk. I need something easier to shoot. I was told the 45 is more backward recoil than upward, so maybe easier to shoot, and its a bigger bullet! I will have to try a 45 out at my target range.
If so, Im lookin for a glock swap. The hk is a awesome gun but I dont need the top brand, I need something for protection and a bit of target. And the glock is said to be a very practical, tough weapon. Personally I held a 30 today and loved it. I think the 30 is more compact than the 21 but Im not sure. Either way I think thse models would be a great swap for what I have. Ill miss the hk but thats...okay.
What do yal think? [B)]
If so, Im lookin for a glock swap. The hk is a awesome gun but I dont need the top brand, I need something for protection and a bit of target. And the glock is said to be a very practical, tough weapon. Personally I held a 30 today and loved it. I think the 30 is more compact than the 21 but Im not sure. Either way I think thse models would be a great swap for what I have. Ill miss the hk but thats...okay.
What do yal think? [B)]
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Personally I don't like a Gloc. but, for all the things you stated you want, a Gloc will make you a fine gun. I'm not sure I agree with the recoil statement (at least when comparing the 40 and the 45) I think 45 cal. is the best choice however, the 40 would be a good choice also. good luck. 0 -
I'd hold on to the HK ... or at least shoot the Glock of your choice first.
See how it goes ... what if trade off the HK and you don't like the Glock?
Glocks don't feel/point well for some people ... I'm not one of them as I have both the 21 and 30 ... and a couple HK's and I like them all.
What about putting a some cash with your .40 and getting a USP 45 or Tactical?
Nuttin wrong with a top brand gun - they hold their value.
Just some random thoughts ...0 -
Get a Springfield XD if your going that route. They feel more natural in your hand than a Glock. 0 -
Get a Rock before you get a Glock. 0 -
I'm with Kimber on this one.
Keep the HK. It is the finest purely protection handgun on the market. SA/DA.
The Glock isn't a true DA/SA [so I'm told, but I trust the wors I've heard].
12+1 in the dropping caliber is a fine defensive tool.0 -
G30, accurate and dependable. Carry mine every day 
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While a Glock is certainly not everyone's "cup of tea", it IS one of the most successful and affordable mass-produced handguns in the world today. Personally, I like them very much as far as simplicity, reliability, accuracy and forgiveness, i.e. will eat virtually any brand or type of ammo you load in it. Plus, there's a whole world of accessories readily available for Glocks.
If you can, rent one at a range and shoot a few boxes through it. If your accuracy is very good, if the recoil is more than manageable for you, AND if you can comfortably carry it on your person - then it's a good thing for you to consider buying with your HK in trade.0 -
Right on, AZ9J. I don't go anywhere without my Glock-30. 0 -
I like the ease at which they can be taken down for cleaning. But I have never been accruate with either of my Glocks. My buddy and I both have the model 17 and he isn't that accruate with his either. I don't like the fact that you can't use lead bullets with the Glock barrels.
I will take a Kimber or Sig over the glock any day, but I do realize they are a lot more expensive and not everyones cup of tea.0 -
Get the Glock 30, you'll be happy you did 0 -
I have a Glock 21 and its a great Handgun. Ive never had any bad issues with it from the time I took it out of the box until at least 600-700Rds through it. Good Luck!! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
While a Glock is certainly not everyone's "cup of tea", it IS one of the most successful and affordable mass-produced handguns in the world today. Personally, I like them very much as far as simplicity, reliability, accuracy and forgiveness, i.e. will eat virtually any brand or type of ammo you load in it. Plus, there's a whole world of accessories readily available for Glocks.
If you can, rent one at a range and shoot a few boxes through it. If your accuracy is very good, if the recoil is more than manageable for you, AND if you can comfortably carry it on your person - then it's a good thing for you to consider buying with your HK in trade.
What he said...I agree 110%!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
...will eat virtually any brand or type of ammo you load in it.
You're forgetting that Glock blames most of their infamous kabooms on people using non-jacketed bullets.
Another thing to keep in mind:
I was on the range once with a group of guys shooting from the same batch of reload ammo when a fella shooting a G17 had a live round become stuck 3/4 of the way in the chamber. After clearing the gun he continued shooting, but he and the only other Glock shooter kept experiencing this same condition. After repeated occurrences we took to collecting all the rounds that wouldn't chamber in the Glocks and distributing them to the other shooters. These all fed through the SIG's, S&W's and Beretta's without a hitch.
I'll of course acknowledge that this brass had been improperly resized, but it pointed out a characteristic of the Glock that I hadn't seen before. They're apparently more finicky about slightly out of spec rounds.
This isn't intended to be a bash, just a heads-up.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Txs
quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
...will eat virtually any brand or type of ammo you load in it.
You're forgetting that Glock blames most of their infamous kabooms on people using non-jacketed bullets.
Another thing to keep in mind:
I was on the range once with a group of guys shooting from the same batch of reload ammo when a fella shooting a G17 had a live round become stuck 3/4 of the way in the chamber. After clearing the gun he continued shooting, but he and the only other Glock shooter kept experiencing this same condition. After repeated occurrences we took to collecting all the rounds that wouldn't chamber in the Glocks and distributing them to the other shooters. These all fed through the SIG's, S&W's and Beretta's without a hitch.
I'll of course acknowledge that this brass had been improperly resized, but it pointed out a characteristic of the Glock that I hadn't seen before. They're apparently more finicky about slightly out of spec rounds.
This isn't intended to be a bash, just a heads-up.
The problem was shooting reloads. Read the owners manual and you'll see that only factory ammo is suggested and reloads could void your warranty (not that you'll ever need to use it).0 -
How small are you Dominadart? I have a full size Usp40 and I've never thought recoil was that bad. Most small people think the Glock 30 feels too big in their hands. I also have a Glock 30, plus a Glock 21,23 and 17. Don't get me wrong I love Glocks, but I like the design of the safeties on the HK much better. The recoil on both the HK and Glock seem the same to me. I'm most accuate with my 9mm Glock. If I had to buy a new gun right now. I would buy a Walther. I'm not as accurate with one, and I think it's also ugly, but like like the way it feels and recoil seems less to me than any other pistol.
If you get nothing else from my long post, get this try the guns out and make up your mind for yourself. What's right for one person is not always right for you. Follow your own path.
Traci0 -
GLOCKS rock![:D] 0 -
I think you should sell your HK to someone who will appreciate it and then go buy yourself a Glock.
Not much more complicated then that.0 -
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
The problem was shooting reloads. Read the owners manual and you'll see that only factory ammo is suggested and reloads could void your warranty (not that you'll ever need to use it).All firearms owner's manuals state that shooting reloads voids their warranty, including all those other pistols that digested this ammo with no problems.
As I stated, it's obvious these rounds were out of spec and not top quality. My point was simply that Glock was the only brand there which proved to be unforgiving of this apparently minor ammo imperfection.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Txs
quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
...will eat virtually any brand or type of ammo you load in it.
You're forgetting that Glock blames most of their infamous kabooms on people using non-jacketed bullets.
Another thing to keep in mind:
I was on the range once with a group of guys shooting from the same batch of reload ammo when a fella shooting a G17 had a live round become stuck 3/4 of the way in the chamber. After clearing the gun he continued shooting, but he and the only other Glock shooter kept experiencing this same condition. After repeated occurrences we took to collecting all the rounds that wouldn't chamber in the Glocks and distributing them to the other shooters. These all fed through the SIG's, S&W's and Beretta's without a hitch.
I'll of course acknowledge that this brass had been improperly resized, but it pointed out a characteristic of the Glock that I hadn't seen before. They're apparently more finicky about slightly out of spec rounds.
This isn't intended to be a bash, just a heads-up.
I've never shot reloads so I'm clueless about any problems Glocks may have with them. My statement was really intended to be more about the fact that a person could buy pretty much any reputable factory brand and shoot with it as opposed to some semi-autos that are picky or fussy about it, especially the self-defense rounds. My wife's Glock 19 gobbles up MagTech as well as Wally World's white box, Fiocchi and Wolf.0 -
As said above, I would recommend you go to an indoor range that rents handguns and try both the Glock 21 and 30 before you sell off the HK.
Also just because you paid more for your HK doesn't mean that you will get cash back when you go to trade it for a Glock at a dealer.
Best bet if you do decide to sell it is to either put in on consignment at a dealer or sell it privately. That's the only way you will have additional money back.
Trading it on a Glock at a dealer will find you shelling out an aditional $100.
Concerning the recoil of the 40sw vs the 45acp. I have to agree. I find that polymer 40's have a twisting torking recoil while a 45acp out of a full size 1911 with have a gentle push. 45acp out of a polymer light weight Glock or HK has it's own recoil to it. More so than a 1911 and less than a 40sw... IMHO.0 -
I have always hated glocks. They are plasticy, blockish, can't be upgraded with, 'cool looking,' wood grips. that being said, my glock 35 is probably the most consistently accurate, reliable and easy to conceal pistol I own. As much as I want to I honestly can't find anything bad about it other than it's complete lack of cosmetic appeal. 0 -
Glock makes a great product. Personally I just think there are better choices what I think does not take away the fact thet Glock pistols are excellent for what they are.
On a side note, I noticed at the airports all the firearm signs have a shadow of a Glock pistol to represent a handgun.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Txs
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
The problem was shooting reloads. Read the owners manual and you'll see that only factory ammo is suggested and reloads could void your warranty (not that you'll ever need to use it).All firearms owner's manuals state that shooting reloads voids their warranty, including all those other pistols that digested this ammo with no problems.
As I stated, it's obvious these rounds were out of spec and not top quality. My point was simply that Glock was the only brand there which proved to be unforgiving of this apparently minor ammo imperfection.
And my point was shoot factory ammo and you won't have that problem. It's a precision firearm and requires precision made ammo.0 -
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
quote:Originally posted by Txs
My point was simply that Glock was the only brand there which proved to be unforgiving of this apparently minor ammo imperfection.
And my point was shoot factory ammo and you won't have that problem. It's a precision firearm and requires precision made ammo.
Sounds like we agree.0 -
I personally would keep the HK. I prefer the feel of them way over the Glocks. I think the reason I may have a issue with Glocks is because 3 out of 4 of the Glocks I've shot jammed a lot because they were at a range and poorly maintained. Have you considered a SIG? 0 -
I have a 36 and a 27 with fobus paddel concealed holsters.Got the 36 first a little too heavy.Had a chance to get a 27 with a finger extention at a deal.I love it.Yes it is a glock and yes it takes some getting use too.I now am very comfortable with it and it rides very well on my hip. 0
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