shoot that mechanic
I take the wife's Honda to the local garage for some simple work. I tell the guy I'd also like two new front tires. No problem he tells me, and he charges me $289 for two new Goodyears, mounted and balanced. A bit high, perhaps, but let's get this done. Within 2 miles of leaving the garage, the right one was dead flat. I pull over and spend 20 mins in the freezing cold changing it. I get back in the car, go to start it, and 20 mins of the emergency lights has killed the battery (the mechanic did say that the battery was almost dead).
I jump it and get going, and I'm 1/2 a mile down the road when the car starts acting all funny again. WTH? I pull over and the other new tire is almost flat. I limp to a service station and reinflate it, and as I'm about to leave I notice that the wife has left her car with NO gas. Like, none. It's a 15 gallon tank and I put 14.6 gallons into it.
I get the car back to the shop and leave a note asking the mechanic to please call me and tell me why both of my brand new tires went flat.
Does anybody have any freaking idea how this could have happened?
I jump it and get going, and I'm 1/2 a mile down the road when the car starts acting all funny again. WTH? I pull over and the other new tire is almost flat. I limp to a service station and reinflate it, and as I'm about to leave I notice that the wife has left her car with NO gas. Like, none. It's a 15 gallon tank and I put 14.6 gallons into it.
I get the car back to the shop and leave a note asking the mechanic to please call me and tell me why both of my brand new tires went flat.
Does anybody have any freaking idea how this could have happened?
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Not sure what Year/Model you've got; my dad has had a few and one of them, an Accord but forget the designation, had wheels tghat required Good Year Eagles. The rims were standard diameter, but the contact angle or something wouldn't fit any other tire, at least at the time. Possibly you have that type of rims and the mechanic didn't know that. 0 -
His air compressor was still full of summer air and he filled your tires with it. As soon as those tires left his shop the hit the winter cold air they went flat. The hot hot exapands and fills the tire. The cold air condenses and takes up less space-thus the tire is flat. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
His air compressor was still full of summer air and he filled your tires with it. As soon as those tires left his shop the hit the winter cold air they went flat. The hot hot exapands and fills the tire. The cold air condenses and takes up less space-thus the tire is flat.
the difference should not be that significant, you'd have to go down to around liquid nitrogen temps to get the tire flat.0 -
The air leaked out. [:p] [:p] [:p] [:p]
It sound's like he didn't get a good seal on the rim, why I don't know.0 -
quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
His air compressor was still full of summer air and he filled your tires with it. As soon as those tires left his shop the hit the winter cold air they went flat. The hot hot exapands and fills the tire. The cold air condenses and takes up less space-thus the tire is flat.
the difference should not be that significant, you'd have to go down to around liquid nitrogen temps to get the tire flat.
That was much quicker than I thought it would take.
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quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
His air compressor was still full of summer air and he filled your tires with it. As soon as those tires left his shop the hit the winter cold air they went flat. The hot hot exapands and fills the tire. The cold air condenses and takes up less space-thus the tire is flat.
the difference should not be that significant, you'd have to go down to around liquid nitrogen temps to get the tire flat.
That was much quicker than I thought it would take.
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Most likely, you have a leaky bead and the guy who did the tires didn't clean the rims good enough.
When I change tires, I always put a healthy coating of bead sealant on both the rim and tire. It seems to me that this stuff is almost forgotten in the tire world, I've had a number of old guys tell me they haven't seen that stuff in 40 some years. I swear by it, why not guarantee a leak free bead instead of hoping for one. Hell, I still change tires with two tire spoons and I have strong feeling towards putting tubes in tires. Call me old fashion I guess.0 -
yep, probably something with the bead, so what ray b. and catpealer said.
every time I got new tires I don't remember them not using bead sealer. seems they always had a big bucket of the stuff, they dunk a long stick with a brush on the end and slop it all over, it's dripping down the tires.
if not the bead, then maybe the valve stem has a problem. usually they change those when they change the tire.0 -
very likely a bead issue, many new tires in the past 8-10 years have a bar code pasted on the bead (yea those stupid scanner bar crappers that are on everything these days)
often even if it is a super thin sticker, it is enough to allow a leak.
Buschmaster, the slop you are refering to is just a lubricant to make the rubber slide over the lip of the rim easier without tearing the thin inner portion that makes most of the seal, bead sealer is more like tar, usually applied with an applicater brush on the can lid.
if not a bead leak then possibly the valves were torn, will happen quickly if the tire is put on in such a way that it catches the inner base of the stem going on.
yea, spent WWAAAAaayyy too many years in the garage/tire buisiness0 -
MURPHY'S LAW [}:)]! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
quote:Originally posted by KSUmarksman
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
His air compressor was still full of summer air and he filled your tires with it. As soon as those tires left his shop the hit the winter cold air they went flat. The hot hot exapands and fills the tire. The cold air condenses and takes up less space-thus the tire is flat.
the difference should not be that significant, you'd have to go down to around liquid nitrogen temps to get the tire flat.
That was much quicker than I thought it would take.
I got it...0 -
If the tires were only flat on the bottom, why not just simply turn them over?
Be sure to have the steel belts de-magnetized after the first 1000 miles.0 -
Bad karma......That's what Earl would say.... 0 -
[8D]-Oldemagics got it down pat--
--In my B.F.Goodrich tire shop (1973-1978) we were supplied and trained on the use of the rubber-friendly lube for tire installation and NEW VALVE STEM replacement--
-Both the wheel bead surface and the valve stem mounting hole,HAVE to be cleaned before new tire mount !!!
--Man you just had a real bad day--
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The guy called this AM and apologized, says he farms out the mounting and that the guy had screwed up the valve stems. He was very apologetic and said he'd fix it all right away.
I appreciate his efforts to fix the problem, but I think this is the end of my patronizing of the local shops. It's off to the dealer for me. This makes seven awful experiences with local shops, and that's just too much. Here's a brief run-down. (Note: not all the same car, and not all the same shop.)
1. Tires replaced, but shop forgot to tighten the lug nuts
2. Front tires replaced, but new tires had been dipped in glue/caulk which filled in about 3 inches of tread. This made the car shake like it was falling to pieces. Shop owner told me he "hadn't noticed anything on the test drive."
3. Brake pads replaced but rotors not turned, despite assurances that they didn't need it. When I braked it felt like a machine gun going off under the hood. I was told that "in 100 miles that will all go away."
4. Brake lines not bled after brake work. Had to pump the peddle two or three times to get the car to stop. Took the thing back, and the guy behind the counter said he could get it back in to bleed the brakes in "two or three days." (Owner did step out of his office and tell the guy to put the car back in the bay now.)
5. Took car in with a list of six things that needed to be done. Left car for a week. Called after a week, owner said he needed another week. OK. Called after another week and asked to make sure that all work had been done. You bet, owner told me, and I had a friend drive me the 20 miles to pick the car up. Only half the work had been done. Nine months earlier, the shop had told me my front brake pads were 50%. On this visit, the guy told me my pads were 75%. I asked how pads get better over time. The owner had a nervous breakdown while I was standing there, telling me about stress and how it's all too much and he just can't put up with it all. I actually ended up telling him it would all be OK, that he can do this, etc.
6. Horn wouldn't work consistently, only about 1 out of 10 times. Took it to a shop and they returned it "fixed." Horn now worked 1 out of 4 times. Called the shop and the owner said "it's working a lot better than it did." I asked if he checked the contact points in the steering wheel. Long pause gave me an answer.
7. And lastly was the two flat new tires last night.
I gotta ask what the heck happened to American workmanship? I know diddly about cars, but I can't imagine that brakes and tires are incredibly hard to fix, or that a thorough test drive wouldn't reveal an unfixed problem.0 -
You've had some bad bad luck. 0 -
picky---picky...at least you could communicate in ENGLISH 0 -
I thought this was one of those Flash Player games... Oops. 0
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