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  • Slow_Hand
    quote:Originally posted by PJ
    It is not a float and ballcock assembly. It is a "tower" with a float (more like a tab) which pivots off the top of the "tower". The tab does not pivot up high enough to completely fill the tank. I can't see any way to adjust the travel.
    Pete


    You probably have a Fluidmaster Fill Valve.

    1. Turn off the water to the tank
    2. Flush as much water as you can out of the tank
    3. Reach down the shaft of the fill valve and grab the gray plastic ring; gently pull it up on the shaft, thereby disengaging the adjustment lock
    4. Once the ring is loosened, gently twist a bit in each direction and pull up to increase the height of the fill valve or gently twist and pull down to decrease the height of the fill valve.

    The top of the fill valve, i.e. the actual shut-off diaphragm and valve assembly, should be a tad over the height of the toilet tank WITHOUT the tank lid resting on it or hitting it.

    5. Once the overall height has been adjusted, push down on the ring to lock the adjustment in place. If you do NOT properly seat that lock ring, water pressure will blow the top section of the fill valve up and out when the water's turned back on.

    6. Turn the water back on and fine tune your tank's water level or line by squeezing the spring clip on the rod attached to the floating barrel and lengthening the rod to decrease the level or shortening the rod to increase the level.

    Newer Fluidmasters have a plastic screw rod instead and you either turn it one way to raise the water level/line or the other to decrease it.

    7. Flush and test the toilet at least 5 or 6 times to make sure that all is the way you want it and be sure that the ultimate water level in the tank is at least 1/2" BELOW the top of the overflow tube.
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  • PJ
    Slow Hand--I drained the tank and found small white tab at the bottom of the fill valve. It looks as if you use this tab to release the valve in order to adjust it up or down. I tried pushing, pulling, twisting and cursing, but could not make it move. I am afraid I will break it. Is there some plumber's secret to releasing the tab to make the adjustment?
    Pete
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  • Slow_Hand
    quote:Originally posted by PJ
    Slow Hand--I drained the tank and found small white tab at the bottom of the fill valve. It looks as if you use this tab to release the valve in order to adjust it up or down. I tried pushing, pulling, twisting and cursing, but could not make it move. I am afraid I will break it. Is there some plumber's secret to releasing the tab to make the adjustment?
    Pete


    Yes. You then have a Korky brand fill valve which, to be truthful, are not near as user friendly as Fluidmasters. That white tab is sort of "key lock" to hold the height of the valve rock-steady which in turn regulates the water line or level. I know because I installed them in my two home toilets thinking they were a better performing unit. Not really, sad to say, but a bit simpler to adjust.

    Shut off the water to the toilet and flush to drain out as much water as you can.

    Squeeze and pull down on the white tab "key lock" to disengage the tangs at the end and remove it.

    Then rotate the upper section of the fill valve about 1/4 turn to unlock it from the lower section and raise or lower it in increments.

    You want to make absolutely sure that the water level or line is set correctly and it MUST be 1/2" BELOW the top of the overflow pipe AND set no higher than the marked line on the side of the Korky fill valve's body to work properly. This type of fill valve does not utilize the customary barrel or ball float concept to work.

    Rotate the upper section back to its original o'clock position to secure it at that height. Don't skip this step!!!!

    Turn the water back on and test it. Make absolutely sure that your tank's static water level or line is NOT above the mark on the side of the Korky fill valve!!!

    Now that you have the idea as to adjusting the water level, you can play with it further while the water supply is live, just be sure you don't release your downward pressure on the top of the fill valve while it's disengaged or water pressure will send it flying upwards and out.

    Once you're satisfied with the water level, I suggest you reinsert that white "key lock" so that it can't rotate.

    If and when my two Korkys die, I'm going to replace them with Fluidmasters as they are still, by far, the best and most reliable of all the valves currently out there in production. Plus, Fluidmasters will allow you to customize the water level or line much more.

    Let me know how you make out with this "beast". [:D]
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  • PJ
    Slow Hand--It worketh! Thanks so much for your help.
    Pete
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  • Slow_Hand
    You're very welcome! Glad I could be of some help.[:)]
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