police radar observation
Using my electronic countermeasures I have noticed an interesting thing. When I pass a state trooper who has pulled someone over, they turn their radar off.
The local "county mountie" always have theirs on.
So is it wise to bathe yourself and the person you pulled over in microwave radiation from 10 feet away??? Seems like the locals need more training...
The local "county mountie" always have theirs on.
So is it wise to bathe yourself and the person you pulled over in microwave radiation from 10 feet away??? Seems like the locals need more training...
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Getting back to the topic of police radar...... I sometimes entertain myself by parking my motor at the side of the road where I can easily be seen.
I point my speed gun down the road, but dont turn it on. Its fun to watch people drive by pounding on their detectors and flicking the switches.
I dont know how many have been sent back to the factory for unnecessary repairs.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gunnut505
Why not just install a surplus chaff dispenser on the hood and fire a cloud of aluminized particles whenever your detector starts a buzzin'?
Umm, possibly becasue to do so can get you a pretty hefty littering charge, which in most jurisdictions is a criminal matter.
Having driven OTR and also local LTL for 15 years, I came to the conclusion that even the best of the detectors can only tell you you've been busted.0 -
Originally posted by dheffley
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All that proves is 90% of the drivers break the law and more traffic enforcement is needed.
Yeah, and while you're at it, go ahead and write up people for jaywalking, spitting on the sidewalk, carrying wirecutters in your pocket (illegal in Austin), possessing a realistic dildo (illegal in Dallas), sitting on a sidewalk (illegal in Galveston), having an unusual haircut (illegal for children in Mesquite) and all of the other laws on the books.
There is far more important police work than sitting by the road nabbing speeders.
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Is breaking the law, breaking the law? Yes. Why should anyone be exempt from breaking any law, especially if it's one they disagree with.
Who said anything about being exempt? I'm saying that most speed limits are too low, too much police manpower is spent catching speeders, and many drivers do far more dangerous things while driving than going faster than some arbitrary "limit". In any event, if anyone is "exempt" it would be cops, who get away with speeding all of the time because they routinely extend "professional courtesy" to each other. They do so because they know it's not really dangerous and everyone does it.
Regarding radar, I've owned several radar detectors. They work, but they also are annoying, giving far too many false alarms due to automatic door openers, traffic signals, speed signs along roads and other triggers. I would rather stay about 10 mph over the speed limit until someone faster goes by me and then follow them at a distance.0 -
If you spent as much time obeying the law as you do arguing against the ones you don't like, there wouldn't be a problem![:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Cat Fight!!!
Good to see some retain a sense of humor![:D]
Dang, people are sensitive around here! Oh well, there's always Cosmo at your local news stand, for those who have the guts!
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No, the police shouldn't be worrying about speeders.
In an adjoining county, a large cocaine and money seizure was made recently. Many pounds and close to a million bucks cash.
Why? The driver was speeding and got caught.
No, we shouldn't try to stop speeders.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
No, the police shouldn't be worrying about speeders.
In an adjoining county, a large cocaine and money seizure was made recently. Many pounds and close to a million bucks cash.
Why? The driver was speeding and got caught.
No, we shouldn't try to stop speeders.
Guess this proves, common sense is not to be found in LEOs. No surprise.
I'm sure thankful that the court system, judges, and good attorneys do their part in preserving justice.
Leaving the system to LEOs would be a disaster!0 -
Wow, a lot of otherwise nice intelligent people have said a lot of really silly things in this thread, showing just how clueless a majority of the public really are at times.
About all I have to add to the intelligent comments is that there's always another angle at which we can look at this.. that traffic fines are really nothing more than a tax on stupidity.0 -
quote:Originally posted by actionherotrainee
Wow, a lot of otherwise nice intelligent people have said a lot of really silly things in this thread, showing just how clueless a majority of the public really are at times.
About all I have to add to the intelligent comments is that there's always another angle at which we can look at this.. that traffic fines are really nothing more than a tax on stupidity.
Might be a tax on old people, if the LEO is at the end of the month and needs to make his/her ticket quota. Heck, just because old people may not remember where they live, no need for LEOs to drag them around, unless the LEO has a "quota" to make!0 -
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
quote:Originally posted by farmplinker
Sure I pick and choose which laws I obey. Everyone does. Feel like cutting across the street mid-block rather than walk to the corner? It depends on traffic levels, visibility, speed of cars and other factors. Sometimes I can safely cross mid-block, breaking the jaywalking law, and sometimes it's not safe and I take the extra time to walk to the corner and wait for the light.
The same goes for speeding. In broad daylight on a dry highway with light traffic, it's often quite safe to drive faster than the posted limit. On the same road in bad weather, or at night or in heavy traffic, it's not. Near houses and schools, speed limits are appropriate.
BTW, I never claimed to be above the law or have a right to break the law. If I get caught, I may rightly think that the law I choose to break is inappropriate, but that won't excuse me. I've only gotten a few speeding tickets in my life, and I don't give the cop a hard time. I have gone to court to fight them, however, and I feel it is my civic right and duty to use up court time as a form of protest.
quote:All speed limits are legitimate because they are the law.
That is one of the most rediculous and illogical statements I have come across in some time. You are using a circular argument. There are, and always have been, bad laws. The simple fact that the majority of drivers speed is evidence that many speed limits in many locations are bad laws.
Take laws outlawing owning guns. Are they legitimate? Of course not. They may be on the books and may be enforceable, but they are not legitimate. It is the natural inclination for government to create more and more laws and regulations, increasing it's power and oversight. [That should give you a hint that I'm not a liberal. I'm also not a conservative. Narrowing it down for you?]
I guess I am an anarchist according to your definition.
quote:Grow up.
Wise up.
You're funny! In more ways than one. You can't even argue your own stance without stepping on your own toes.
Still wondering what other laws you refuse to obey. Don't really want to know, but you could be on the road to the big house someday, and the rest of us don't want a free ride![}:)]
Funny, he seemed to make sense to me! Cops are the masters of selecting what laws they decide to obey, or not, just depending on different factors, like, how their boss just at them out for not making a ticket quota, how hard they want to bust a 16 year old chick for a couple of joints, or how hung over they are!
Man, I am sure glad there is a judicial system that allows cop-lovers to be screened from the jury pools in this country.0 -
quote:Originally posted by TripleX
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
quote:Originally posted by farmplinker
Sure I pick and choose which laws I obey. Everyone does. Feel like cutting across the street mid-block rather than walk to the corner? It depends on traffic levels, visibility, speed of cars and other factors. Sometimes I can safely cross mid-block, breaking the jaywalking law, and sometimes it's not safe and I take the extra time to walk to the corner and wait for the light.
The same goes for speeding. In broad daylight on a dry highway with light traffic, it's often quite safe to drive faster than the posted limit. On the same road in bad weather, or at night or in heavy traffic, it's not. Near houses and schools, speed limits are appropriate.
BTW, I never claimed to be above the law or have a right to break the law. If I get caught, I may rightly think that the law I choose to break is inappropriate, but that won't excuse me. I've only gotten a few speeding tickets in my life, and I don't give the cop a hard time. I have gone to court to fight them, however, and I feel it is my civic right and duty to use up court time as a form of protest.
quote:All speed limits are legitimate because they are the law.
That is one of the most rediculous and illogical statements I have come across in some time. You are using a circular argument. There are, and always have been, bad laws. The simple fact that the majority of drivers speed is evidence that many speed limits in many locations are bad laws.
Take laws outlawing owning guns. Are they legitimate? Of course not. They may be on the books and may be enforceable, but they are not legitimate. It is the natural inclination for government to create more and more laws and regulations, increasing it's power and oversight. [That should give you a hint that I'm not a liberal. I'm also not a conservative. Narrowing it down for you?]
I guess I am an anarchist according to your definition.
quote:Grow up.
Wise up.
You're funny! In more ways than one. You can't even argue your own stance without stepping on your own toes.
Still wondering what other laws you refuse to obey. Don't really want to know, but you could be on the road to the big house someday, and the rest of us don't want a free ride![}:)]
Funny, he seemed to make sense to me! Cops are the masters of selecting what laws they decide to obey, or not, just depending on different factors, like, how their boss just at them out for not making a ticket quota, how hard they want to bust a 16 year old chick for a couple of joints, or how hung over they are!
Man, I am sure glad there is a judicial system that allows cop-lovers to be screened from the jury pools in this country.
The sad thing is, you are completly correct about this.0 -
quote:Man, I am sure glad there is a judicial system that allows cop-lovers to be screened from the jury pools in this country.
That's funny right there. And telling. Personally, I don't give two hoots what sort of people serve on the juries, since I won't be putting my fate in their hands.0 -
I noticed a lot of different factions and personal agendas sparked by this subject. A lot of people don't like cops and don't want to see them, unless they need one. My experience.
Don't know how you can ignore the fact that a lot of criminals are caught on traffic stops unless your simple minded.0 -
quote:Don't know how you can ignore the fact that a lot of criminals are caught on traffic stops unless your simple minded.
Agreed, but simple-mindedness abounds.0 -
Get real guys... everytime I have been stopped for a speeding ticket I got a break from the cop doing the ticket. They almost always underwrite the speeding amount. Only once did the officer miss the speeding car and got mine. I was still speeding but not the amount he said. My right foot has had a lot of lead taking out of it thru the years... and is still just a little heavy but not much. 0 -
People who willingly break the small laws are just as likely to break the big ones!!!
I feel sorry for anyone in the car with you when kharma catches up to you.[:D]
But don't worry speeders... you will never see me on your Jury. Everytime I get called up for Jury duty I make it a point to tell the judge that I think homosexuality is a death penalty offense (you wouldn't want me to lie on a jury questionaire would you?).0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Get real guys... everytime I have been stopped for a speeding ticket I got a break from the cop doing the ticket. They almost always underwrite the speeding amount. Only once did the officer miss the speeding car and got mine. I was still speeding but not the amount he said. My right foot has had a lot of lead taking out of it thru the years... and is still just a little heavy but not much.
Me too!0 -
Last time I was ticketed it was for doing 77 in a 50. The speed limit had just changed from 60 to 50. A car sped past me but I was pulled over. Had to go to court, I went but had a meeting that day so I went in my Boy Scout leader's uniform. Plead no contest but said I was doing 65 not 77. The judge an eagle scout, said well I look honest, no points, just pay the court costs of $90. 0
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