Made the high bid
On a 12 gauge on gunbroker. Had the money then spent it on my parents taking them to dinner when they got sick this week.
Emailed the seller about my lack of funds and asked if two weeks would be ok for payment. Seller was nice about it and said yes. [8D]
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=73922459
Emailed the seller about my lack of funds and asked if two weeks would be ok for payment. Seller was nice about it and said yes. [8D]
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=73922459
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Not too bad a deal. I like the bolt shotguns. I have 2 of the J. C. Higgins and one H & R. Don 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
Not too bad a deal. I like the bolt shotguns. I have 2 of the J. C. Higgins and one H & R. Don
This will be my first 12 gauge. I have a bolt action 22 and lever 30-30 winchester but that is it for rifles. I have them hanging on the wall by my cowboy hat.0 -
I believe that is one of the ones on the recall list. They were not safe to shoot. You use to get 160.00 from Sears for sending them the bolt They recently changed it to a 50.00 gift certificate. They were made by High Standard it is rare to find them with the bolt 0 -
quote:Originally posted by wipala
I believe that is one of the ones on the recall list. They were not safe to shoot. You use to get 160.00 from Sears for sending them the bolt They recently changed it to a 50.00 gift certificate. They were made by High Standard it is rare to find them with the bolt
Sears Model Numbers: 583.13, 583.14, 583.15, 583.16, 583.17, 583.18, 583.19, 583.20, 583.21, 583.22. are the ones listed in Wiki. This is a 583.10, made 1947 the ones listed were made in the 50's.0 -
This very topic was on the experts forum a few weeks ago. You better check the model number before you send the money for a gun that could put the bolt through your brain.
A good seller would understand and cancel the sale. Somebody knowingly trying to unload a recalled gun would give you a month or more to pay.0 -
From the experts forum:
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HIGH STANDARD/J.C. HIGGINS, MODEL 10, 12 GAUGE BOLT ACTION SHOTGUN
AND SEARS MODEL NUMBERS: 583.13, 583.14, 583.15, 583.16, 583.17, 583.18, 583.19, 583.20, 583.21 AND 583.22
The model of shotgun may be subject to a BOLT FAILURE. When this occurs the bolt will dislodge from the action, striking the shooter causing serious injury. These shotguns were manufactured for and sold by Sears, Roebuck & Co. during the 1950's.
Call (800) 817-9165 for identification verification. Instructions for the return of the bolt and refund of $160.00 will be provided.
From the sales description:
J.C. Higgins Bolt Action Shotgun 12 gauge Model 583.10 This is a plain Jane bolt action 12 gauge 2.75 inch chamber, shotgun sold by Sears 30+ years ago.0 -
My 12 gauge is a 583.16 and my 16 gauge is a 583.24. I do not have a problem shooting them. I believe my H&R is a model 349 and looks remarkably like the J. C. Higgins. Don 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
My 12 gauge is a 583.16 and my 16 gauge is a 583.24. I do not have a problem shooting them. I believe my H&R is a model 349 and looks remarkably like the J. C. Higgins. Don
So what do you think of this from Wiki Answers
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The defect was not a result of actully firing,or the gun blowing up. The problem was that the bolt stop screw had been stripped wich allowed the bolt to come out. The shooter pulled the bolt out so fast and hard that it came out the gun and struck him in the eye. This accident was actully the falt of user . He should have not used the gun with stripped or missing bolt stop screw.If he did he should of atleast been a little more carefull. Any gun no matter how well made can be dangerous when put in service with defects . Sears recalled the guns to protect them selves. The model 10 was Sears own product they had bought the rights to manufacture the from Harrington & Richardson .H&R actually made almost the same model before WW2. It was known as m H&R 120 gamester. For Sears they were called 105 Ranger. After WW2 Sears bought the H&R Riesing pattent and had High Standard manufacture an improved version under the JC Higgins name [sears owned a good size part of High standard back then] the model 10 was made from 1945 to 1956 .In good condition they are one of the best bolt action shotguns ever made, and of higher quality than any thing in their class. They are very strong and safe shotguns.
Also says they are old fashioned good hunters.0 -
theres a reason why someone put a pad on that gun. youre about to get a 77.00 lesson in first aid![:p][B)]
for gods sake, use low dram rounds. 2 3/4 dram or less. slugs? when you shoot, be sitting.[;)][:0]0 -
quote:Originally posted by yawarakai
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
My 12 gauge is a 583.16 and my 16 gauge is a 583.24. I do not have a problem shooting them. I believe my H&R is a model 349 and looks remarkably like the J. C. Higgins. Don
So what do you think of this from Wiki Answers
quote:
The defect was not a result of actully firing,or the gun blowing up. The problem was that the bolt stop screw had been stripped wich allowed the bolt to come out. The shooter pulled the bolt out so fast and hard that it came out the gun and struck him in the eye. This accident was actully the falt of user . He should have not used the gun with stripped or missing bolt stop screw.If he did he should of atleast been a little more carefull. Any gun no matter how well made can be dangerous when put in service with defects . Sears recalled the guns to protect them selves. The model 10 was Sears own product they had bought the rights to manufacture the from Harrington & Richardson .H&R actually made almost the same model before WW2. It was known as m H&R 120 gamester. For Sears they were called 105 Ranger. After WW2 Sears bought the H&R Riesing pattent and had High Standard manufacture an improved version under the JC Higgins name [sears owned a good size part of High standard back then] the model 10 was made from 1945 to 1956 .In good condition they are one of the best bolt action shotguns ever made, and of higher quality than any thing in their class. They are very strong and safe shotguns.
Also says they are old fashioned good hunters.
To get the bolt out you have to take it out of the stock and then remove the screw to pull the bolt out. My mossberg single shot 410 is the same way. My H&R is called the Gamester. No problem with the gun, some people will not read everything, only part. Don0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
To get the bolt out you have to take it out of the stock and then remove the screw to pull the bolt out. My mossberg single shot 410 is the same way. My H&R is called the Gamester. No problem with the gun, some people will not read everything, only part. Don
I agree with that. Myself I have a healthy respect for guns. Unfortunately I flinch when shooting and am having a hard time getting the 50 foot targets.0
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