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  • dongizmo
    I thought Cat just dumped the crappers[}:)][:0]
    Don
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  • catpealer111
    I will not comment, unlike the three officers.

    Edit: What is the source of this report?
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  • texaswildman
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111
    I will not comment, unlike the three officers.

    Edit: What is the source of this report?


    Good for you! Loose lips, sink ships....
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  • sarge_3ad
    Could this happen? What if nukes were accidently loaded for training and dropped somewhere on US soil.
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  • catpealer111
    It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111
    It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.
    ???
    Your source for this info?
    Don
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  • David Nunn
    quote:It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.

    I don't believe this statement is 100% true.
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  • catpealer111
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    quote:It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.

    I don't believe this statement is 100% true.


    It's what we're told so that's all I have to go on.
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  • Fep1990
    http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/marine_nuclear_B52_070904w/

    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111

    It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.

    How can you explain all the SAC flights back in the 80's and 90's SAC out of Fairchild AFB?
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  • catpealer111
    It was a different world back then. It's what I've been told.
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  • nemesisenforcer
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111
    It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.


    If that were true, we committed millions of acts of war during the cold war since we had nuke armed bombers in flight around the clock just outside of soviet airspace for years and decades straight.
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  • catpealer111
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111
    It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.


    If that were true, we committed millions of acts of war during the cold war since we had nuke armed bombers in flight around the clock just outside of soviet airspace for years and decades straight.


    I've inquired about it I even mentioned the Cold War, and I've been told that it changed with the end of the cold war. I admit, I could be wrong on the matter but I'm just going with what I've been told by everyone here. I have yet to find anything to support my statement.
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111

    It's what we're told so that's all I have to go on.


    When I was in the Marine Corps, we were told that the ball on top of the flag pole contained matches and razors to destroy the flag in the event of the base being overrun....and a .45 so you could shoot yourself [xx(]
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  • Kimbercolt
    even in the 70 and 80 we flew weapons in
    ferry to strike configuration.


    "It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board."

    that statement is fiction
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  • victorlvlb
    I was in Cuba in 1963. My squadron had ordered a jet engine for of are planes.An atomic bomb was on its way to some where about the same time.The jarheads were gaurding the so called top secret box in the main hanger.We had a so called jet engine out side of are so called shop. Yup you guessed it. we had the bomb out side for two or three days while the jarheads were gaurding are jet engine.When the so called jet engine was uncrated didn't look like a jet engine the chit hit the main stator.The jarhead command ran east,west, north, south.[:D][:D][:D]
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  • iluvguns
    quote:I was in Cuba in 1963.

    What unit? My father-in-law was there in 1963. Still talks about all the dang land crabs!
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  • ObiWan
    Catpealer,

    Ever hear a rumor about a bomber base's bomb folks all turning up positive in a drug test?

    LOL.....now that was funny.....for a rumor you know.[}:)]

    I was the Federal Inmate Escort for the dealer involved in that rumor.[;)]


    Buy one of these:

    www.nukepills.com/radiation-detector.htm
    www.nukalert.com

    And tell your Commander you came up with a new policy to wave your key chain over all weapons before flight. LOL!!!!
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  • cce1302
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111

    It's what we're told so that's all I have to go on.


    When I was in the Marine Corps, we were told that the ball on top of the flag pole contained matches and razors to destroy the flag in the event of the base being overrun....and a .45 so you could shoot yourself [xx(]


    Yeah, we still tell that one, only it's 1 rd and directions to find the .45 because it's too big to fit in there.
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  • Txs
    I don't know specifics of any current treaty restrictions, but what catpealer says may very well be true in the post-Cold War period.

    Some here are apparently thinking back to the old days when SAC was still alive. When this command was dissolved about 15 years ago the world of our nuclear alert aircraft changed drastically.

    Starting in '61 we kept multiple BUFF's loaded with nukes in the air at all times (CHROME DOME and HARD HEAD missions), but we stopped conducting routine airborne alert missions after '68. Though no longer a matter of routine, it still wasn't unheard of for various types of nuclear armed aircraft to launch and assume holding positions during times of alert.

    Logically aircraft are still allowed to fly with nuclear weapons on board. After all, these things aren't created at each location where they're based. However there are undoubtedly restrictions on the types of aircraft allowed to carry them and the condition they can be kept in while airborne. Just because you have a device that's designed to create a nuclear detonation doesn't mean it's always capable. It's not as if those in this story could've been dropped and created a mushroom cloud at the flick of a switch.

    What concerns me is how this story ended up on the national news so quickly. Not that it should've been covered up to prevent embarassment, but the release of ANY information about the location or status of nuclear weapons is an operations security issue. Neither confirm nor deny is Rule #1.

    Catpealer- I don't envy you. The world around you is probably about to get awfully uptight. Good luck with the new command staff.
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  • ObiWan
    In lighter B-52 news a Tornado starting forming yesterday directly over many B-52's deployed in the Pacific but it failed to touch the ground. It made it over half way down from the cloud.....some lucky crew chiefs on GUAM:

    http://dragguam.com/dragboard/showthread.php?t=9654
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  • Captplaid
    So...can we blame what's-her-name on the other shift for this supposed incident?

    Somebody has to be blamed.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by catpealer111
    It is an act of war if a US aircraft flies with nuclear weapons on board.
    Against who, exactly?
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  • allen griggs
    If flying with nukes is an act of war, since the nukes flew from North Dakota to Louisiana, does this mean that North Dakota is now at war with Louisiana?
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  • ObiWan
    Imagine if they accidentally dropped them munitions onto the test range.....

    We'd only have 49 States....lol....wait a minute...that's not really funny at all.

    Poop rolls down hill....a lowly E-4 will be in prison over this.
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