Drug testing Students ?
thoughts on drug testing students at school ? how come they dont drug test teachers or faculty ?
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I was randomly drug tested at school and drug tested at predetermined dates as well.
BUT, I did go to a Maritime College where I wore uniforms and was setup similar to military.0 -
I see it as a violation of the 4th amendment. At a job, you can just go get another job if you don't want to submit to it. You can't drop out of school. My bodily fluids are not fair game for inspection in an attempt to get me in trouble.
If they catch a kid smoking a joint that's one thing, but requiring him to submit his bodily fluids is too much.
They are training kids to give up their rights in my opinion, which is despicable in a place where they should be teaching them to be informed and assertive of their rights.0 -
quote:Originally posted by LKB3rd
I see it as a violation of the 4th amendment. At a job, you can just go get another job if you don't want to submit to it. You can't drop out of school. My bodily fluids are not fair game for inspection in an attempt to get me in trouble.
If they catch a kid smoking a joint that's one thing, but requiring him to submit his bodily fluids is too much.
They are training kids to give up their rights in my opinion, which is despicable in a place where they should be teaching them to be informed and assertive of their rights.
I concur, schools used to be places of learning, now they are places to knock unconstitutional treatment and chickens**t discipline (arbitrary rules) into kids to dumb them down and turn them into zombie voters in teh future0 -
I agree that it should not be mandatory. I really didn't answer the question.
The school I was tested at was a College and it was a decision to go there. The industry that hires these graduates have drug-testing.
To drug test normal students is a violation of rights in my opinion. What they do in the school is the school's business, but what they do away from the school is none of their's!0 -
Lots of students tested drugs at my school. 0 -
I am for it in a sense that the "Ward & June Cleaver" days are over. Now that we have 10 year olds trying "Meth", I would rather see a few tax $'s going towards prevention than turning a blind eye to a growing problem.
Better to keep the young one's OUT of the system now than let them be part of it later.0 -
Some people willingly give up their rights, at the drop of a hat.
How sad. [V]0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
Some of the replies cracked me up. [:D]
Most "realistic" people look at drug testing this way........If you don't have anything to hide, then there shouldn't be a problem.
Those opposed to screening for drugs in the workplace, in the military, or even students in school, are likely "users" to begin with. Suggesting it is a violation of their rights, or privacy is a weak excuse and screams "I'm a doper!" [;)]
No offense, but you're as full of poop as a Christmas tree. "Realistic" Americans value their rights and won't give them willingly away. I do not take drugs, but think testing in schools is extremely alarming and I will not allow my children to have that done to them.
The comment about "if you don't have anything to hide it shouldn't bother you" is so damn backwards in this country it's not funny. The only thing I have to hide is my privacy. This is coming from a 100% law abiding citzen that hasn't even gotten so much as a speeding ticket in the last 6 years.0 -
for anyone who supports drug testing students...would you support drug testing PARENTS ? 0 -
If I did, I sure as HELL would.
Actually, there are a whole lot of parents that should have drug testing as a prerequisite for bearing Children.
That said, I wouldn't allow my Kids to be tested, but they could test me, anytime.
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Come on, a hit off the old meth pipe never hurt anyone,not even a 10 year old. 0 -
In Law School, they teach that freedoms are most easily taken from Children and the infirm...
They point out that those classes of folks are ill-equipped to fight the loss of their freedoms, and have few/no advocate groups/lawyers to defend their losses.
Further, any child who grows to adulthood without a freedom, will not usually join the fight to restore it/them.0 -
Interesting question. As a former teenage pot smoker, I thought it was just terrible when they started bringing dope dogs into our school in the 1970's.
Now I would have to say that I wouldn't oppose drug testing in schools. School is a place for education, not a social melting pot. I say we work w/the kids that are interested and weed out the ones that aren't.
Maybe you can't drop out, but you can sure be kicked out.
They booted my daughter who doesn't use drugs because a nosey parking lot monitor spotted a small pocket knife in her locked car. But people on illegal drugs should be allowed in?
If you have a 0 tolerence policy, what difference does it make in what form the drugs are brought on campus? In a baggie or in the bloodsteam.0 -
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
Some people willingly give up their rights, at the drop of a hat.
How sad. [V]
Yes, truly sad.0 -
Why should we spend billions attempting to educate people who aren't interested and are only there because they have to be?
It's just like workplace drug testing. You don't HAVE to take the drug test. But if you don't, you can't come here. You forfeit your right to public funded education. YOUR CHOICE.0
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