WT heck.. My new stainless grill is rusting
No kidding, starting to pit. Who else on here has a stainless grill?
What kind? and is it rusted?
What kind? and is it rusted?
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return it! 0 -
what he said above me. 0 -
Good read..
The Truth about Stainless Steel
From Derrick Riches,
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Because not all Stainless Steel is created equally
The term stainless steel is one of those deceptive little phrases which cause virtually nothing but confusion. What makes stainless steel special isn't the steel and it certainly isn't stainless. Stainless steel can rust, discolor, and loose its luster and appearance over time. There are dozens of types of stainless steel and each has its own unique qualities. In recent years there has been a flood of stainless steel gas grills on the market, but beware of what you are getting. For the average consumer there are a few things you need to know to help you pick out a stainless steel gas grill. Will a magnet stick to it? How thick is the metal? How smooth is the surface? How was it put together?
Stainless Steel Grade: There are many flavors of stainless steel. 304 stainless is the most common (about 50% of the worlds production).
It is used in everything from cars and cookware to buildings. What you need to know is that there is magnetic (400) and non-magnetic (300) stainless steel. 400 series stainless steel is not as durable or corrosion (rust) resistant at 300 series. If you want durability in your stainless steel gas grill put a magnet on it. If the magnet sticks, don't buy it. Some manufacturers use a mixture of different metals so put that magnet all over the grill to test it all.
Thickness of the metal: I wouldn't suggest you take a pair of calipers with you to buy a gas grill, but there are a few ways to get a good idea of the thickness of the metal in a grill. Thicker metal will not discolor as fast as thinner stainless steels. Thicker is better. You can tell the thickness of the metal of a stainless steel gas grill by the overall weight of the grill and how hard the metal feels. Don't be shy and press the grill in the middle of the hood. If it doesn't budge the metal is probably pretty thick.
The finish of the steel: Most rust gets its start in imperfections in the surface of metal. Tiny little holes let moisture and chemicals sit and eat away at metal. Stainless steel, though resistant, isn't immune to these problems. When looking at a stainless steel gas grill, feel the surface. It should have a clean finish to it. There are several finishes to stainless steel, but poorer quality stainless should feel uneven. This metal is raw from the factory and not finished. A finished surface may be brushes or smooth, but it should feel even.
Assembly of the parts: Stainless steel needs to be properly assembled to make the most of the properties of the metal. Spot welding will give corrosion points to the metal and when you push two pieces of stainless steel together they will fuse over time. The best stainless steel grills are completely welded. This is an expensive process and isn't available on lower end grills. What you want to look for is that all the pieces come together right and they are fastened together will stainless steel fasteners or welded. Generally pop-rivets are a bad idea and if it isn't welded look for bolted joints, but check the bolts with your magnet. Steel bolts will rust quickly.
If you end up with a stainless steel gas grill you need to take care of it. Keep it clean, keep it covered, and keep chemicals away from the metal. Lawn fertilizers are very corrosive agents and can ruin even the highest quality gas grills.0 -
30 year Old news-[:D]
"Because not all Stainless Steel is created equally"
Just poking fun at an old joke "Yes we have rusty stainless Steel". 0000 steel wool on a 4B finish (grained) and a lite coat of oil and it goes away.
316L SST is the Surgical and Food grade stainless.0 -
Must be that Chinese Stainless! 0 -
Yep, different grades of stainless. I've seen stainless knives rust too. Guess that's why they call it stain(less), not stainproof.
I have seen stainless that wouldn't even tarnish under the harshest of conditions though.0 -
i treat grills as a disposable appliance get a few years out of it even under the best conditions, that why i won't fork out for a "stainless" one, and i use the term "stainless" loosely more like shiny steel or "in the white"
i did go with the satin steel on our appliances, looks like stainless but is treated, and easy to clean0 -
What you cooking on it? Road kill? 0 -
Well I just checked it ... it is 400 series stainless. It is a Charbroil commercial series.. The magnet stuck to it. Taking it back to Lowes. Guess I will find a nice cast aluminum or 300 series stainless grill. 0 -
I really think you will have a hard time finding a grill made out of a 300 series. 400 series is much cheaper and with the cost of metal prices it would be one expensive grill to be made out of 300 series. 0 -
I use to tig stainless steel. Even the highest grade SS 316 will get contaminated if you use a carbon steel wire brush or carbon steel brillo pad on it. It gets in the grains/pours of the stainless and creates a film of rust. It doesn't actually penetrate the chromium/nickel alloy. Buy a good high grade stainless steel wire wheel and buff it good with a mechanical angle grinder. 0 -
I have the Stainless Commercial Series Char Broil and I've had it for about 2 years.. maybe a little more. I treated it with some type of glaze that came with the grill and it looks as good as the day I bought it. Maybe because its the commercial series.
I don't know if I have any of the glaze compound left but if I find it, I'll post what it is.0 -
Umm... stainless steel does rust, it just takes a little longer, and you do still have to take care of it to keep it in good shape.
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quote:Originally posted by KarenL7777
I have the Stainless Commercial Series Char Broil and I've had it for about 2 years.. maybe a little more. I treated it with some type of glaze that came with the grill and it looks as good as the day I bought it. Maybe because its the commercial series.
I don't know if I have any of the glaze compound left but if I find it, I'll post what it is.
I have the same grill. NO glaze came with my grill from Lowes.0 -
My gas grill is made of aluminum or something similar. 20 years old, two new tanks, about 5 new burners, pressure wash it every few years and spray paint it with grill paint, still looks and works fine. 0 -
[8D]-Yo select-fire-I've used stainless grills in the past and after a No. of BBQ's (?) they will leach taste into the food, especially fish--
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
No kidding, starting to pit. Who else on here has a stainless grill?
What kind? and is it rusted?
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--About 8 yr's ago I started to use Cast-Iron--POWDER COATED and it works great and cleans lickity split !!!
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I have a Brinkman SS grill,......have had it about 4 years.
No exterior rust, but I have a high quality cover, and also put it back on the patio a lot too.
You can't just let a grill set out in the weather, and not expect rust, assuming that is what you are doing.
IF it is covered and is rusting, I would return it.0 -
Speaking of stainless, we have water jackets at work made of staineless. Magnets will also stick to the welds. 0 -
I know you've got the money for a good one.
www.wedrongrills.com
The Club Grill show serve you nicely.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
I know you've got the money for a good one.
www.wedrongrills.com
The Club Grill show serve you nicely.
I just emailed them for a quote on the Club..thanks0 -
Did you know that some grades of SS a magnet (hint) will stick too. And if it do, then it do rust. I've yet to see any of the hi quality SS that we use at work ever rust... Oh yea it is expensive....
BTW Scotch Brite works the best on Stainless Steel.... I'm sure you all know but work with the grain!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well I just checked it ... it is 400 series stainless. It is a Charbroil commercial series.. The magnet stuck to it. Taking it back to Lowes. Guess I will find a nice cast aluminum or 300 series stainless grill.
Better give those vettes the same test.0 -
Select.. here's the glaze/polish stuff that came with my grill. I bought mine at Lowe's too. 
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Thanks for the pic of the cleaner. The grill is being returned to Lowes. I looked at a friends who's is 2 years old and it is rusted also. They are making them out of 400 series stainless ( which is not rust resistant ). Better grade grills + $1000 dollars up are made of 304 Stainless or 316 stainless which includes about 80% of the cooking utensil marketplace. Check your stainless steel sink it is out of 300 series and non magnetic. 0 -
A magnet will stick to 400 series staimless because it has a higher carbon content so it will also rust easier than 300. 300 series has less carbon and is non magnetic and therefore will not rust as easily.
400 series is able to accept heat treat because of it's carbon content also.
300 series is a very hard material to start, and it won't accept heat treat.0 -
...Nope, Im a purist...no gas here.
I have a steel smoker w/an offset firebox. I pull it out in the sun once a summer let it get to about 10,000 degrees and soak it down with veggie oil...like seasoning an iron skillet, no rust...[^]0
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