Dillion's Rant! - Good One!
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By Peter Caroline
According to most estimates, there are between 75 and 80 million adult gun owners in the United States. That's more people than voted in the last presidential election. So why is it, when there are so many gun owners, that we are not the DOMINANT voting bloc in this country? Because most of that 75-80 million are , lazy, hypocritical barfbags. Well, I'd like to say something to that group.
Sure, you drive around in a pickup truck with a gunrack and some hairy-chested bumper stickers, and you talk big at the gun shop or the Legion Hall. But will you shell out 35 bucks and join the NRA? Oh, you don't agree with the NRA's stance on this or that, or the NRA is too soft on something or too unyielding on something else? Or maybe long ago the NRA didn't send you your free cap or bullet key ring on time. Well, you know what? That's a dumb cop-out and you're an sweetie. Whether you like it or not, the NRA is the only...I repeat ONLY, effective representation you have in the cesspool of Washington politics. Even the NRA's worst enemies -- YOUR worst enemies if you have the capacity to think about it -- agree that it's one of the most powerful lobbying forces on Capitol Hill. That means no one else fights your battles for you better, and if you don't understand that simple fact, you're too dumb to exist! download a text copy of this article
If you don't vote like a gun owner, YOU SUCK
Then there's my old home state of Massachusetts. Over one million Massachusetts gun owners must be really proud to claim Teddy Kennedy as their senator. And John Kerry, the Kennedy clone, is no better. The entire Massachusetts congressional delegation, both gay and straight, is anti-gun. And you Bay State gun owners are the dildoes that put them in office! Because you sat on your fat asses, you've got Chapter 180 -- aptly named because it turns your gun rights around 180 degrees -- and you've got an attorney general who wants to be governor and thinks every handgun is a faulty consumer product. Once again, Massachusetts gun owners, where were you on Election Day?
OK, you don't give a damn about the NRA but you still want to keep your guns. So why, in the name of all that is holy, do you vote for "gun-ban" candidates? Oh, you don't? So who does? Maybe it's all those other people who were voting while you were sucking a brewski and watching the game on TV. Or maybe you're a good union guy, and the union votes Democrat. If you don't vote in the next election, your enemies will elect a president who will be able to name three or four new Supreme Court Justices
Look at every state with asinine, repressive gun laws and a preponderance of anti-gun politicians -- California, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland...to cite several horrible examples -- and you will find enough gun owners to form an unbeatable voting bloc, IF they would get their thumbs out of their butts and vote, for a change. Jeez, what a concept!
Some years ago, Mario Cuomo, a dedicated anti-gunner who happened to be governor of New York, described gun owners in a most uncomplimentary fashion. But the most damning thing he said about gun owners is that they don't vote, and therefore should not be considered as a factor in any election. How about that? Mario Cuomo is a liberal Democrat and, as such, is wrong about most everything, but he's absolutely right about you. And I can prove it. If you non-voting gun owners in New York State did get off your asses and vote like gun owners, obscenities like Mario Cuomo couldn't even be elected as dog catcher. The same goes for Charles Schumer; he wasn't bad enough as a congressman from Brooklyn; you dumb schmucks had to let him become a senator! What's next...Hillary?
We all know the excuses: I'm too busy, my vote doesn't count, they're all crooks and it doesn't make any difference, I gave $5 to Quail Unlimited so I don't need to vote, yadda, yadda, yadda. Well, here's the bottom line...your vote does not count if you don't use it. If you don't vote, then effectively you are on the same side as Rosie (I'm-not-a-hypocrite) O'Donnell, Sarah Brady, Bill and Hillary, Al Gore, Teddy Kennedy, Charles Schumer and every other low-life bottom feeder who knows what's best for you. If you don't vote like a gun owner, you are a butt-boy for the anti-gunners, and you bend over forward to please them.
Think about it. 75-80 million gun owners in this country; only 3.6 million NRA members, and who knows how many active pro-gun-voting gun owners. You can argue all you want about your inalienable rights. Rights are like body parts; they only work if you exercise them. And yours are looking pretty flaccid right now. If you don't vote in the next election, your enemies will elect a president who will be able to name three or four new Supreme Court justices. Which means that by the 2004 election, you will have no guns. And shortly after that, you will have no vote and no rights. And you know what? If you let that happen, it will be exactly what you deserve!
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By Peter Caroline
According to most estimates, there are between 75 and 80 million adult gun owners in the United States. That's more people than voted in the last presidential election. So why is it, when there are so many gun owners, that we are not the DOMINANT voting bloc in this country? Because most of that 75-80 million are , lazy, hypocritical barfbags. Well, I'd like to say something to that group.
Sure, you drive around in a pickup truck with a gunrack and some hairy-chested bumper stickers, and you talk big at the gun shop or the Legion Hall. But will you shell out 35 bucks and join the NRA? Oh, you don't agree with the NRA's stance on this or that, or the NRA is too soft on something or too unyielding on something else? Or maybe long ago the NRA didn't send you your free cap or bullet key ring on time. Well, you know what? That's a dumb cop-out and you're an sweetie. Whether you like it or not, the NRA is the only...I repeat ONLY, effective representation you have in the cesspool of Washington politics. Even the NRA's worst enemies -- YOUR worst enemies if you have the capacity to think about it -- agree that it's one of the most powerful lobbying forces on Capitol Hill. That means no one else fights your battles for you better, and if you don't understand that simple fact, you're too dumb to exist! download a text copy of this article
If you don't vote like a gun owner, YOU SUCK
Then there's my old home state of Massachusetts. Over one million Massachusetts gun owners must be really proud to claim Teddy Kennedy as their senator. And John Kerry, the Kennedy clone, is no better. The entire Massachusetts congressional delegation, both gay and straight, is anti-gun. And you Bay State gun owners are the dildoes that put them in office! Because you sat on your fat asses, you've got Chapter 180 -- aptly named because it turns your gun rights around 180 degrees -- and you've got an attorney general who wants to be governor and thinks every handgun is a faulty consumer product. Once again, Massachusetts gun owners, where were you on Election Day?
OK, you don't give a damn about the NRA but you still want to keep your guns. So why, in the name of all that is holy, do you vote for "gun-ban" candidates? Oh, you don't? So who does? Maybe it's all those other people who were voting while you were sucking a brewski and watching the game on TV. Or maybe you're a good union guy, and the union votes Democrat. If you don't vote in the next election, your enemies will elect a president who will be able to name three or four new Supreme Court Justices
Look at every state with asinine, repressive gun laws and a preponderance of anti-gun politicians -- California, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland...to cite several horrible examples -- and you will find enough gun owners to form an unbeatable voting bloc, IF they would get their thumbs out of their butts and vote, for a change. Jeez, what a concept!
Some years ago, Mario Cuomo, a dedicated anti-gunner who happened to be governor of New York, described gun owners in a most uncomplimentary fashion. But the most damning thing he said about gun owners is that they don't vote, and therefore should not be considered as a factor in any election. How about that? Mario Cuomo is a liberal Democrat and, as such, is wrong about most everything, but he's absolutely right about you. And I can prove it. If you non-voting gun owners in New York State did get off your asses and vote like gun owners, obscenities like Mario Cuomo couldn't even be elected as dog catcher. The same goes for Charles Schumer; he wasn't bad enough as a congressman from Brooklyn; you dumb schmucks had to let him become a senator! What's next...Hillary?
We all know the excuses: I'm too busy, my vote doesn't count, they're all crooks and it doesn't make any difference, I gave $5 to Quail Unlimited so I don't need to vote, yadda, yadda, yadda. Well, here's the bottom line...your vote does not count if you don't use it. If you don't vote, then effectively you are on the same side as Rosie (I'm-not-a-hypocrite) O'Donnell, Sarah Brady, Bill and Hillary, Al Gore, Teddy Kennedy, Charles Schumer and every other low-life bottom feeder who knows what's best for you. If you don't vote like a gun owner, you are a butt-boy for the anti-gunners, and you bend over forward to please them.
Think about it. 75-80 million gun owners in this country; only 3.6 million NRA members, and who knows how many active pro-gun-voting gun owners. You can argue all you want about your inalienable rights. Rights are like body parts; they only work if you exercise them. And yours are looking pretty flaccid right now. If you don't vote in the next election, your enemies will elect a president who will be able to name three or four new Supreme Court justices. Which means that by the 2004 election, you will have no guns. And shortly after that, you will have no vote and no rights. And you know what? If you let that happen, it will be exactly what you deserve!
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Dillon ought to stick to making loading tools.
Of what use would 80 million gun-owners joining NRA...unless we want to have even MORE gun laws.
Perhaps his rant would be more to the point villifing gun-owners that SUPPORT gun laws...and perhaps it would be closer to what the Founders envisioned...
BTW..this is Peters' rant.
I didn't agree the first time I read it..years ago...and still don't.0 -
I have to fully agree with what is said here.
"Butt-Boy"???[:D]
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quote:Originally posted by Highball
Dillon ought to stick to making loading tools.
Of what use would 80 million gun-owners joining NRA...unless we want to have even MORE gun laws.
Perhaps his rant would be more to the point villifing gun-owners that SUPPORT gun laws...and perhaps it would be closer to what the Founders envisioned...
Again! I don't think the NRA would be required to compromise much if it was an organization with anything close to 70 million gun owners.
I think their position would become much more rigid since they would be the 1000 lb elephant in the living room!0 -
AMEN, BROTHER! 0 -
I've often wondered where they are getting this estimated number of gun owners from.
What is the information based on? What data base is taped for the number of owners and is it some calculated formula that averages how many firearms on average a person owns?
Dillion is correct, We should command a larger voting influence on our Government .0 -
The message is a few years old...... but still very true.
Generally, gun owners are apathetic when it comes to politics. If just half the gun owners were NRA members, AND VOTED, then the leftist anti-gun crowd would'nt be so smug in their take all the guns away attitude.0 -
Very good piece.
Maybe I'll join the NRA, again.
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The RTKBA should not be decided by a 350lb. lobbyist with pockets full of $100 bills and a friendly back slap or damp handshake. It's a right clearly defined in the U.S. Constitution, no matter if there is one gun owner or 250 million gun owners here in the U.S.
The arguments of numbers and percentages are completely irrelevant when a black-letter Amendment prevails over all else.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
The RTKBA should not be decided by a 350lb. lobbyist with pockets full of $100 bills and a friendly back slap or damp handshake. It's a right clearly defined in the U.S. Constitution, no matter if there is one gun owner or 250 million gun owners here in the U.S.
The arguments of numbers and percentages are completely irrelevant when a black-letter Amendment prevails over all else.
Nice thought but totally unrealistic. If it wasn't for the NRA and other like organizations, guns would have been totally outlawed decades ago. And yes, if the NRA had even 10 million members, they could do a lot more without compromising at all. But they only have 4 million, in a country of 300 million.0 -
quote:Originally posted by PC800
quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
The RTKBA should not be decided by a 350lb. lobbyist with pockets full of $100 bills and a friendly back slap or damp handshake. It's a right clearly defined in the U.S. Constitution, no matter if there is one gun owner or 250 million gun owners here in the U.S.
The arguments of numbers and percentages are completely irrelevant when a black-letter Amendment prevails over all else.
Nice thought but totally unrealistic. If it wasn't for the NRA and other like organizations, guns would have been totally outlawed decades ago. And yes, if the NRA had even 10 million members, they could do a lot more without compromising at all. But they only have 4 million, in a country of 300 million.
Certainly not criticing the NRA, its work to date or its successes. And my wife and I ARE both members and yes, FWIW, we plan to renew. That said, I was merely stating the obvious about the mental masturbation and numbers games that many people enjoy playing when gun ownership in America - as well as numerous other issues - is discussed.
The assumption that membership in one specific RTKBA organization defines the gun-owning or 2nd Amendment-supporting populace is seriously flawed, absurdly naive, conveniently biased and terribly dangerous. Even as a newbie, I know of at least a half-dozen other RTKBA orgaizations - other than the NRA - that many gun owners probably already belong to as well or instead of.
To allow the antis to lump all of the eggs into the NRA's basket does not serve us or America well. We can ill afford to sink or swim on the back of one organization, no matter how honorable or successful they are or may have been to date.
Again, just my 2 cents. No malice intended.0 -
Perhaps a really revolutonary thought might just shock the he++ out of you.
Perhaps the reason we HAVE 20,000++++ gun laws is BECAUSE of the NRA...not "we have guns because the nra is such a stalwart Second Amendment fighter.."..
Now..Why would THAT BE ?
Because the NRA has its finger on the pulse of gun owners in America..and never fails to run to Congress and TELL them just about what the American gun owner will stand TODAY in the way of new gun laws....
Instead of allowing those idiots in power to make a fatal mistake, the NRA merely greases the rod the idiots steadily insert into our neither regions...
The ONLY reason we still own guns is because a sizable bunch of people will yet resist the removal of those arms...and those in power are not yet quite prepared to try it.
The feedback from the so-called 'gun rights organizations' help the Elite gauge public sentiment on this issue.0 -
Rings true, so true. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Because the NRA has its finger on the pulse of gun owners in America..and never fails to run to Congress and TELL them just about what the American gun owner will stand TODAY in the way of new gun laws....
And thus you prove my point. It is not the NRA's or any other pro-gun organizations fault we have so many gun laws. The real fault is the millions of gun owners that stand aside and allow the government to pass more and more gun laws. Again, if the NRA or the GOA or any other org had 10 million members that actually stood up, these laws would never even get proposed. But, no. The vast majority of gun owners don't belong to any of the orgs, and lots of the hunters don't care about any gun they don't hunt with. And that is the fact, and the real problem.0 -
You hit the bullseye PC800
quote: It is not the NRA's or any other pro-gun organizations fault we have so many gun laws. The real fault is the millions of gun owners that stand aside and allow the government to pass more and more gun laws. Again, if the NRA or the GOA or any other org had 10 million members that actually stood up, these laws would never even get proposed. But, no. The vast majority of gun owners don't belong to any of the orgs, and lots of the hunters don't care about any gun they don't hunt with. And that is the fact, and the real problem.
Citzens vote - Slaves and future slaves dont!0 -
quote:Originally posted by PC800
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Because the NRA has its finger on the pulse of gun owners in America..and never fails to run to Congress and TELL them just about what the American gun owner will stand TODAY in the way of new gun laws....
And thus you prove my point. It is not the NRA's or any other pro-gun organizations fault we have so many gun laws. The real fault is the millions of gun owners that stand aside and allow the government to pass more and more gun laws. Again, if the NRA or the GOA or any other org had 10 million members that actually stood up, these laws would never even get proposed. But, no. The vast majority of gun owners don't belong to any of the orgs, and lots of the hunters don't care about any gun they don't hunt with. And that is the fact, and the real problem.
Well Said!
I agree that the second amendment is very clear, but it is also very clear that the anti-gun folks don't have any respect for the second amendment or the Bill of Rights. They have managed to twist the truth to the point of gun registration in our major cities and elimination of guns in DC, NYC, Chicago and many other places.
They have managed to erode the meaning of the second amendment in the courts of the land by placing activist judges in high positions all over the counrty.
We can no longer trust our elected officials to support and protect this right. This fact is clear so forget about the arguement that the second amendment protects us. It is not enough!!
Our elected officials can and will take away all semi-auto guns, all handguns, all pump shotguns and let us keep only our lever action, bolt action and single action rifles and shotguns. They will claim that this restriction is necessary to protect the population and is in compliance with our second amendment.
They will and have claimed that the second amendment does not allow guns in schools, federal buildings and many other places. They will claim that one rifle in each home is compliance with the second amendment. This is where they are headed and you will never stop this movement without a massive organization to counter their thinking.
This is fueled by the evolution of the population from rural to urban centers. Large Urban centers make large liberal centers, look at the voting charts. The majority of liberals hang out in the larger populated areas. You can't stop this trend! These people grow up watching TV and playing video games. Guns are dangerous to them. They don't go hunting or target shooting, they are scared to death of guns. I have met thousands of these people in Indianapolis, Miami, Los Angeles and Portland, all the big cities where I have worked over the 40 years in my career.
If we had a draft it would slow this trend since folks from all walks of life would flow through the military and learn about guns. Most ex-military types enjoy guns, are not afraid of them and will vote in favor of second amendment rights.
But we don't have a draft so we have to work with what we have and that is a large gun rights organization. If they become big they will block this anti-gun trend for many many years. Remember the folks in Canada, Austrailia and England all said if we had had a NRA we might still have our guns. More food for thought!0 -
Most of you folks labor under the delusion that you still enjoy 'Gun Rights'...and right there is where we part company.
We have already lost. Everything related to gun rights is now permission. Most of you are comfortable with that.
I am not..and never will be. Therefore, the discussion is difficult to carry on..because we stand on opposite sides of a deep chasm.0 -
Agree, with the exception of the NRA comments. They are becoming part of the problem and a facilitating force for " more moderate gun laws", for lack of a better term.
Not saying they never do any good, or have never done any good things, but when you compromise, you are part of the problem, period.
JPFO and GOA all the way.0 -
Does anybody have a few examples of how the NRA has compromised? I'm not trying to say they haven't because maybe they have. I just don't know what instances those were.
In the magazine, all I ever read is if a particular bill was passed or defeated. I've never caught the part about how they compromised on a bill.
HB: Your thinking is correct and I admire your unwaivering stance on the issue but most people in this country would consider you to be the very far extreme on this issue. It shouldn't be that way but it is.
If gun owners would become one issue, 'gun voters', maybe we could win the war once and for all. All I ask is for people to vote. Blago won in IL with 1.5 million votes (50% of the vote)! That tells me there are millions of gun owners in Illinois (plus 9 million non-voters) who are either uneducated on his stance, simply do not feel that strongly on the subject or both. We're going to pay the price sooner or later.0 -
When Mario homo was elected OUT of office he was quoted asking, "What will my sheep do without me?" 0 -
Yep, HB is right. Right in thinking that by standing out in the rain and yelling at the top of his lungs to absolutely no one listening, that he will change peoples' minds about the NRA. Kinda along the same lines as Peter Caroline writing a letter criticizing gun-owning non-voters and expecting them to change their behavior.
It's always a good idea to support the Constitution, and all the so-called "protections" contained therein, and to exercise your American Duty to vote for the candidate of your choice; but when was the last time there was a candidate WORTH voting for?
Go ahead and discuss amongst yourselves.
I don't know and don't care what HB or any of the rest of you fine folks think about me, or the NRA, or the future of firearm ownership in the US; I DO care that there are a growing number of threats to my continued ownership, use and enjoyment of firearms in this country, and that badmouthing the ONLY MAJOR PLAYER in the fight against more and more anti-gun laws is just plain stupid-look at what Zumbo said against one type of gun, and see that it cost him dearly.
If as many folks that excoriated Zumbo would get off their over-achieving backsides and elect a pro-gun Senate or House; THAT would be a powerful gun lobby indeed.
Until that time; whatever the NRA did to piss HB off, I'm sure all is forgiven, and that they will welcome him back into the fold as eagerly as any prodigal son.[}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Most of you folks labor under the delusion that you still enjoy 'Gun Rights'...and right there is where we part company.
We have already lost. Everything related to gun rights is now permission. Most of you are comfortable with that.
I am not..and never will be. Therefore, the discussion is difficult to carry on..because we stand on opposite sides of a deep chasm.
I hear you and side with you about our rights being stripped as we sleep watching our TV sets. I grew up in a time where as a teen I could pick up a shotgun or rifle and the ammo and take it out on the farm and hunt, shoot or just walk the land. We lived in a farming community in Northern Indiana and boys actually took guns on board the school busses to hunt after school with friends. A different time my friend.
Man times have changed since I got out of the military in 1964 and worked for many years in Finance. Now retired I am wide awake and see what has happened to our rights and freedoms in this great country of ours. You are right, we are in deep doo doo. But I have always been taught to fight with the tools at hand. We have to dig ourselves out of the hole we find ourselves in now and use what means are currently available to us.
I say fight using the very system that has pushed us into the hole! Time to push back, and push back hard! We are a large group, work hard to unify that group. Its up to us to change it for our children.
Get angry and do what you can, convince friends to get involved, write your legislators, snap back at the media when they twist the truth. Change is a hard road and it takes a long time before you start to see results.
I had a big surge of hope when I saw the reaction to the articles Mr Zumbo wrote. I saw a unity of gun owners and hunters attack him and sponsors with a fury that I don't recall seeing before.
My solution is to push to build up the NRA, GOA and other gun groups. Just do something, what ever you can, if we all do a little it will add up to a big push.
I have encouraged a couple of good friends to reconsider and to join a large gun group, and I will keep up my rants until I see some results with this Congress. I hope you all will join me and turn this into a massive push back against folks who would take away our freedoms and distroy our second amendment rights. NEVER GIVE UP!!0 -
There is one member on GB that took the time to research the NRA...and has a pretty complete run-down of the rather sordid history of the NRA...all the way back to the original Machine Gun Ban...pushed by the then NRA president.
The last real Constitutionalist in the NRA was Neal Knox...and the good old boys...kinda like 505, above...kicked him out.
"Too Extreme" they said..."Bad for the NRA's image"...yeppers...supporting the Constitution and the Second Amendment surely must be bad...considering the amount of heat I take over it...0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
There is one member on GB that took the time to research the NRA...and has a pretty complete run-down of the rather sordid history of the NRA...all the way back to the original Machine Gun Ban...pushed by the then NRA president.
The last real Constitutionalist in the NRA was Neal Knox...and the good old boys...kinda like 505, above...kicked him out.
"Too Extreme" they said..."Bad for the NRA's image"...yeppers...supporting the Constitution and the Second Amendment surely must be bad...considering the amount of heat I take over it...
I have heard some of that story and am sorry the NRA ever compromised our rights.
Find another avenue to fight your battle. I am sure you help out as often as you can. Are you in GOA or another group?
I wish I had the skills to write and a venue to express my feelings in the media. Very few folks in the media seem inclined to take up our cause.0 -
One of the problems that I see is with the NRA, GOA, SAF and all the other organizations out there that say they support gun rights and the 2d Amendment.
They bicker and fight about who is the best and who should represent gun owners, hunters, collectors, etc before the government.
How about this novel concept: PUT YOUR FRICKIN PETTINESS ASIDE AND WORK TOGETHER!! Our enemies do it to us ("the enemy of my enemy is my friend"). Do you really think Teddy and Sarah and Chuck and Hillary and Dianne all get along THAT well? HE** NO!! But they can agree on stripping our gun rights and will ally on that cause.
NRA, GOA, SAF, DU, BU and all the other gun and hunting groups need to sit down and map out an attack plan on Congress...then show us the gun owners that they intend to work together instead of against each other. I am thinking that they would get more members than ever before.
Just MHO.0 -
I am a life member of the NRA...and have belonged to SAF, JPFO, GOA, and a couple others over the years.
Sent money..years ago...wrote letters to editors,lobbied politicians, attended rallys (generally a dozen people would show up)...and watched as the laws were ever tightened...more invasions of privacy, more intrusive big government, more hoops to jump thru.
I came to realize that the political fight was over..that politicians are so hopelessly corrupt as to make contact with then actually demeaning to the soul.
I had thought that the Court fight was over..and was proven a bit wrong on that...perhaps. We shall see....0 -
Diplomacy - tempered with tact - is still a vital and viable approach to discussing this issue with the antis only because bullying or strong-arm tactics only serve to strengthen the antis' position. It plays directly into their arguments.
For whatever this is worth, I have learned more about the 2nd Amendment and our collective fight to preserve TRTKBA through civil and intellectual discussion with a lot of folks here on GB than I have with some haggard old gunners' table-banging, rants, insults and vitriolic diatribes. I suspect that in that particular respect, I'm more the norm than the exception.
Listening stops when one party starts shouting or making it a personal attack. Middle ground evaporates and polarization becomes more intense. You can no more force me to change my mind or my opinion than you can stop the sun from rising tomorrow morning. Why then should any civil gun owner or 2nd Amendment supporter throw down a gauntlet to anyone who disagrees? Their disagreement is not the problem but ignorance - not stupidity and not spite - may very well be.0 -
quote:Originally posted by vess1
Does anybody have a few examples of how the NRA has compromised? I'm not trying to say they haven't because maybe they have. I just don't know what instances those were.
In the magazine, all I ever read is if a particular bill was passed or defeated. I've never caught the part about how they compromised on a bill.
HB: Your thinking is correct and I admire your unwaivering stance on the issue but most people in this country would consider you to be the "very far extreme on this issue. It shouldn't be that way but it is.
If gun owners would become one issue, 'gun voters', maybe we could win the war once and for all. All I ask is for people to vote. Blago won in IL with 1.5 million votes (50% of the vote)! That tells me there are millions of gun owners in Illinois (plus 9 million non-voters) who are either uneducated on his stance, simply do not feel that strongly on the subject or both. We're going to pay the price sooner or later.
Yep. I C&P'd an article onto a new topic that speaks directly to the NRA's history of supporting gun-control. Look for the topic about the "NRA Supports Gun Control". It is posted on General Discussion and Constitutional Rights.0
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