Best Gun Manufacturer ??
who makes the best guns ? i tend to like Berreta. good shotguns and good handguns.
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Heckler & Koch 0 -
Sheesh, that's a hard one to answer. For an all around gun manufacture. I would have to say FN. 0 -
If cost were no object I'd get myself a battery of Westley Richards long guns. For handguns.....Hard to say. I'd probably wind up with a mix of brands. 0 -
http://www.barrettrifles.com/
Here is one of the main reasons, they stand up for us mear civillians.
December 11, 2002
Via Facsimile (213) 847-0676 and U.S. Mail
Chief William J. Bratton
Los Angeles Police Department
150 North Los Angeles Street
Re: LAPD 82A Rifle, Serial No. 1186
Point of Contact: Jim Moody
213 485 4061
Dear Chief Bratton,
I, a U.S. citizen, own Barrett Firearms Mfg. Inc., and for 20 years I have built .50 caliber rifles for my fellow citizens, for their Law Enforcement departments and for their nation's armed forces.
You may be aware of the latest negative misinformation campaign from a Washington based antigun group, the Violence Policy Center. The VPC has, for three or so years, been unsuccessful in Washington, D.C. trying to demonize and ban a new subclass of firearms, the .50 caliber and other "too powerful" rifles. This type of nibbling process has been historically successful in civilian disarmament of other nations governed by totalitarian and other regimes less tolerant of individual rights than the United States.
The VPC's most recent efforts directs this misinformation campaign at your state, attempting to get any California body to pass any law against .50 caliber firearms. In March 2002 the VPC caused the California State Assembly, Public Safety Committee to consider and reject the issue by a 5 to 0 with 1 abstaining vote.
Regrettably, the same material has been presented to your city council. I personally attended the council meeting in Los Angeles regarding attempts to bar ownership of the .50 caliber rifle in your city. I was allowed to briefly address the council. The tone of the discussion was mostly emotionally based, so the facts that I attempted to provide were ineffective to the extent they were heard at all. The council voted to have the city attorney draft an ordinance to ban the .50, and further, to instruct the city's representatives in Sacramento and in Washington D.C. to push for bans at their respective levels.
At that council meeting, I was very surprised to see an LAPD officer seated front and center with a Barrett 82A1 .50 cal rifle. It was the centerpiece of the discussion. As you know, there have been no crimes committed with these rifles, and most importantly, current California law does not allow the sale of the M82AI in the state because of its detachable magazine and features that make it an "assault weapon." This rifle was being deceptively used by your department. The officer portrayed it as a sample of a .50 cal rifle currently available for sale to the civilians of Los Angeles. One councilman even questioned how this rifle was available under current laws, but as I stated, facts were ineffective that day.
Your officer, speaking for the LAPD, endorsed the banning of this rifle and its ammunition. Then he used the rifle for photo ops with the Councilmen each of whom, in handling the firearm, may have been committing a felony. I was amazed.
Since 1968, with the closing of the U.S. Springfield Amory, all of the small arms produced for the various government agencies are from the private sector. Every handgun, rifle or shotgun that law enforcement needs comes from this firearms industry. Unless the City of Los Angeles has plans of setting up its own firearms manufacturing, it may need to guard the manufacturing sources it has now.
When I returned to my office from Los Angeles, I found an example of our need for mutual cooperation. Your department had sent one of your 82A1 rifles in to us for service. All of my knowledge in the use of my rifle in the field of law enforcement had been turned upside down by witnessing how your department used yours. Not to protect and serve, but for deception, photo opportunities, and to further an ill-conceived effort that may result in the use of LA taxpayer money to wage losing political battles in Washington against civil liberties regarding gun ownership.
Please excuse my slow response on the repair service of the rifle. I am battling to what service I am repairing the rifle for. I will not sell, nor service, my rifles to those seeking to infringe upon the Constitution and the crystal clear rights it affords individuals to own firearms.
I implore you to investigate the facts of the .50, to consider the liberties of the law-abiding people and our mutual coexistence, and to change your department's position on this issue.
Sincerely,
BARRETT FIREARMS MANUFACTURING, INC.
Ronnie Barrett, President
Since they did pass that law his ads say he will not sell or repair guns owned by government agencies in CA. Now if more companies stood up like this maybe our laws wouldn't be as bad.0 -
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Nwcid:
Thanks for posting that. I'd heard of Barrett's policy but hadn't seen the letter before.
You've got a slightly different interpretation of 'best gun' than I think was intended by the original post: you're looking for the manufacturer who has the big ballz to stand up stupid laws.
Anyway, I've never fired a Barrett (it's only a matter of time) but from what I hear they make good arms.0 -
I think the question is pointless.
Better to ask about the worst.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
Nwcid:
Thanks for posting that. I'd heard of Barrett's policy but hadn't seen the letter before.
You've got a slightly different interpretation of 'best gun' than I think was intended by the original post: you're looking for the manufacturer who has the big ballz to stand up stupid laws.
Anyway, I've never fired a Barrett (it's only a matter of time) but from what I hear they make good arms.
I am a big fan of IMI and I have a couple of those, does that help. [;)]0 -
CZ's never let me down.[8D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
Nwcid:
Thanks for posting that. I'd heard of Barrett's policy but hadn't seen the letter before.
You've got a slightly different interpretation of 'best gun' than I think was intended by the original post: you're looking for the manufacturer who has the big ballz to stand up stupid laws.
Anyway, I've never fired a Barrett (it's only a matter of time) but from what I hear they make good arms.
I am a big fan of IMI and I have a couple of those, does that help. [;)]
Ouch. I have no idea what you're talking about. IMI?0 -
BARRETT!! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
Ouch. I have no idea what you're talking about. IMI?
Um that is a big Ouch but IMI is Israel Military Industries they make a few cool guns like the Uzi, Galil and Desert Eagle to name a few. DO I need to post a pic of a Uzi and a Galil? [:p]
Now if you are talking about the best firearms designer then that would be John Browning as he designed guns that are now about 100yrs old and are still front line guns.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
Ouch. I have no idea what you're talking about. IMI?
Um that is a big Ouch but IMI is Israel Military Industries they make a few cool guns like the Uzi, Galil and Desert Eagle to name a few. DO I need to post a pic of a Uzi and a Galil? [:p]
Now if you are talking about the best firearms designer then that would be John Browning as he designed guns that are now about 100yrs old and are still front line guns.
Thanks for that. I learned something today.[B)] Yep, I know of Uzi, Galil and Desert Eagle; I just didn't know they were all IMI...actually, I didn't know Uzi was Israeli design, either. Anyway, I didn't post the original "best guns?" post so I can't say what BarkingDog was asking for.
Edit: nobody's likely to complain if you choose to post some good gun porn!0 -
Handgun=Korth
Shotgun=Boss
Rifle=Heym0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
Nwcid:
Thanks for posting that. I'd heard of Barrett's policy but hadn't seen the letter before.
You've got a slightly different interpretation of 'best gun' than I think was intended by the original post: you're looking for the manufacturer who has the big ballz to stand up stupid laws.
Anyway, I've never fired a Barrett (it's only a matter of time) but from what I hear they make good arms.
I am a big fan of IMI and I have a couple of those, does that help. [;)]
IMI. Uzi, when you absoultely have to kill everyone in the room.0 -
Rimfires.. Ansch?tz
Centerfire.. Steyr Mannlicher
Shotguns.. Benelli
Semi/fullauto rifles - AK offcourse.0 -
Glock for pistols
S&W for revolvers
Savage for bolts
Remington for shotguns
Semi/autos-who ever makes the ak's these days0 -
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
who makes the best guns ? i tend to like Berreta. good shotguns and good handguns.
Ever heard the phrase "if you have to ask, you can't afford"?
Let's just say that you have't heard of those companies that make "the be$t" for a good rea$on.
Lutic makes a nice shotgun.
Kreghorf makes some real nice long guns.
Holland and Holland isn't to shabby a long gun.
D'arcy Eckles (sp) can turn a M-70 Winchester into a real nice rifle working rifle.
Butch Searcy makes a real nice double rifle.
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quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
Ouch. I have no idea what you're talking about. IMI?
Um that is a big Ouch but IMI is Israel Military Industries they make a few cool guns like the Uzi, Galil and Desert Eagle to name a few. DO I need to post a pic of a Uzi and a Galil? [:p]
It's to bad that they stole the design for the DE from a guy just south of Flint, MI.
I had the pleasure of handling one of the origionals, and meeting the guy that designed & built it.0 -
I can't believe no one mentioned COLT.
I'm an "old school" kinda guy. IMO, you can't beat good ol' COLT.
Especially that deep royal blue of yesteryear.0 -
Kleingunther, you can take your foreign crap and shove it. 
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I never thought too much of the Colt Python because even the 4" bbl. like this one is big and heavy for CC and the .357 Magnum caliber screams over penetration... That is until I picked one up, placed my thumb on the hammer and cocked it.
There are a lot of guns out there that I haven't handled yet, but I've yet to find a gun straight from the factory (mass produced) that matches the quality of the Python.
PS: I forgot to mention that my gun pictured above is 45 years old (1962), has been carried and fired a lot, and still performs flawlessly.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Gunz
Glock for pistols
S&W for revolvers
Savage for bolts
Remington for shotguns
Semi/autos-who ever makes the AR's these days
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1. Ruger
2. SIG Sauer
3. Bushmaster
4. Remington0 -
Rifle:
Rimfire: Anschutz
Simi Auto: Barrett
Bolt: Perugini & Visini
Double: Krieghoff
Shotgun:
Side By Side: W.W. Greener
Over Under: Perazzi
Auto: Benelli
Single Shot: Ljutic
Handgun:
Simi Auto: Hammerli
Single Shot: Hammerli
Single Action Revolver: Freedon Arms
Double Action: Dan Wesson0 -
Sig Sauer and H&K......IMO[;)] 0 -
I would say Hi Point because if weren' for them some of us would never be able to own a new unfired gun.
All you overpriced glamor guns are o better.0 -
I personally like...
1.Ruger(Made in the USA and their guns are built like tanks, not to mention they make a variety of things and do it well)
2.Remington(Hard to beat that 700 action and their shotguns)
3.Bushmaster(I just really like mine[:D])
Jon0 -
korth revolvers sure are a thing of beauty.
I'd love to actually shoot one.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=802750140 -
FN.. 0
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