this one makes my blood boil
Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas. Trying to
reason with an Illegal Mexican, This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend.
On the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2006. Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:
Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of
other protesters are marching in the streets to
demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your
cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this
protest?
Juan: We want our rights. We will show you
how powerful we are. We will bring Houston to its
knees!
Jim: What rights?
Juan: Our right to live here..legally. Our
right to get all the benefits you get.
Jim: When did you come to the United States?
Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the
border at night with seven other friends.
Jim: Why did you come?
Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a
month as I could in a year in Mexico. Besides, I get
free health care, our Mexican children can go to
school free, if I lose my job I will get welfare,
and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing
like that in Mexico!
Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our
immigration laws when you came?
Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a
right to be here. I have a right to amnesty. I paid
lots of money for my Social Security and Green
Cards.
Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a
lot of money too.
Jim: Did you know that those documents were
forged?
Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to
be here and work.
Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?
Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found
in your Constitution. Read it!
Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember
it saying anything about rights for Aliens.
Juan: It is in that part where it says that
all men have Alien rights, like the right to pursue
happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came here.
Jim: I think you are referring to the
Declaration of Independence and that document speaks
to unalienable rights ... Not Alien rights.
Juan: Whatever.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an
American citizen, why then are you carrying a
Mexican Flag?
Juan: Because I am Mexican.
Jim: But you said you want to be given
amnesty ... To become a US citizen.
Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is
our country, a part of Mexico that you Gringos stole
from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner.
Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After
winning the war with Mexico, Texas became a Republic,
and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not
stolen from Mexico.
Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was
stolen. So was California, New Mexico and Arizona.
It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos
steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of
thieves.
Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?
Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and
China I see them all over the place. You let all
these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans
out. How is this fair?
Jim: So, you really don't want to become an
American citizen then.
Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a
right to live, work, and speak their native language
wherever and whenever they please. That's another
thing we demand. All signs and official documents
should be in Spanish. Teachers must teach in
Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will
speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
Jim: If I were to cross over the border into
Mexico without proper documentation, what rights
would I have there?
Juan: None. You would probably go to jail,
but that's different.
Jim: How is it different? You said everyone
has the right to live wherever they please.
Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land
grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too? Mexico
has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in
Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway? There
is no free medical service, schools, or welfare
there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even
own land in my country. Stay in the country of your
birth.
Jim: I can see that there is no way that we
can agree on this issue. Thank you for your
comments.
Juan: Viva Mexico!
Curtis Collier
President, U.S. Border Watch
Texas Director of the Firecoalition
U.S. Border Watch
6046 F.M. 2920 suite 401
Spring,Tx 77379
1-800-759-0948
www.usborderwatch.com
BORDER SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY
reason with an Illegal Mexican, This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend.
On the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2006. Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:
Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of
other protesters are marching in the streets to
demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your
cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this
protest?
Juan: We want our rights. We will show you
how powerful we are. We will bring Houston to its
knees!
Jim: What rights?
Juan: Our right to live here..legally. Our
right to get all the benefits you get.
Jim: When did you come to the United States?
Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the
border at night with seven other friends.
Jim: Why did you come?
Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a
month as I could in a year in Mexico. Besides, I get
free health care, our Mexican children can go to
school free, if I lose my job I will get welfare,
and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing
like that in Mexico!
Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our
immigration laws when you came?
Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a
right to be here. I have a right to amnesty. I paid
lots of money for my Social Security and Green
Cards.
Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a
lot of money too.
Jim: Did you know that those documents were
forged?
Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to
be here and work.
Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?
Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found
in your Constitution. Read it!
Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember
it saying anything about rights for Aliens.
Juan: It is in that part where it says that
all men have Alien rights, like the right to pursue
happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came here.
Jim: I think you are referring to the
Declaration of Independence and that document speaks
to unalienable rights ... Not Alien rights.
Juan: Whatever.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an
American citizen, why then are you carrying a
Mexican Flag?
Juan: Because I am Mexican.
Jim: But you said you want to be given
amnesty ... To become a US citizen.
Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is
our country, a part of Mexico that you Gringos stole
from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner.
Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After
winning the war with Mexico, Texas became a Republic,
and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not
stolen from Mexico.
Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was
stolen. So was California, New Mexico and Arizona.
It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos
steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of
thieves.
Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?
Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and
China I see them all over the place. You let all
these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans
out. How is this fair?
Jim: So, you really don't want to become an
American citizen then.
Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a
right to live, work, and speak their native language
wherever and whenever they please. That's another
thing we demand. All signs and official documents
should be in Spanish. Teachers must teach in
Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will
speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
Jim: If I were to cross over the border into
Mexico without proper documentation, what rights
would I have there?
Juan: None. You would probably go to jail,
but that's different.
Jim: How is it different? You said everyone
has the right to live wherever they please.
Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land
grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too? Mexico
has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in
Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway? There
is no free medical service, schools, or welfare
there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even
own land in my country. Stay in the country of your
birth.
Jim: I can see that there is no way that we
can agree on this issue. Thank you for your
comments.
Juan: Viva Mexico!
Curtis Collier
President, U.S. Border Watch
Texas Director of the Firecoalition
U.S. Border Watch
6046 F.M. 2920 suite 401
Spring,Tx 77379
1-800-759-0948
www.usborderwatch.com
BORDER SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY
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...wow...[:0] 0 -
"BORDER SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY"..?
More like: BORDER SECURITY IS A FRIGGIN JOKE!!0 -
that really pisses me off, i think us "gringos" should show them whose country this really is, and who has the "right" to kick them the hell back into their own piece of poop neighborhood, and if they try to do it again, ruin our country like this, we should establish a shooting line, anything that crosses the line, gets shot, im sure lots of texans would be happy to take up this new job. 0 -
what a load of crap.
I think they should find this S.O.B.
and send him home.0 -
I posted it before, there are ads ive been seeing that say between 1 and 4 am go find a mexican, beat him till he speaks english, then repeat. it said if you did that for 3 months, the mexican population in your area would decrease by half. 0 -
was that interview with george bush ? 0 -
The problem with that would be...Texans can't shoot worth a bababooey.
Doug0 -
I would guess that it's a fake. Or at the very least has been well embelished upon. Based of the precise verbiage as well as the deliberate wording. Just my opinion. 0 -
sav99..
I agree completely...the english is "too perfect"...better than the average american ...and to be here only 6 yrs and speak that well?...no flipping way..0
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