Baby, it is cold outside and global warming is
a myth.
Temp is going to drop hard by morning.
High until Sunday is predicted to be -17F with a low of -30F. I just hope the wind does not blow!!!
Temp is going to drop hard by morning.
High until Sunday is predicted to be -17F with a low of -30F. I just hope the wind does not blow!!!
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We're getting some cold gusts in Guam. Cold Alaskan air got us down to 74* today.[:p] 0 -
I don't understand why anyone of any intelligence would deny that the earth is becoming warmer. 
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quote:Originally posted by fishermanben
I don't understand why anyone of any intelligence would deny that the earth is becoming warmer.
Ben
But I don't understand why anyone of any intelligence could reasonably say it is the fault of humanity. Show my a pic of that icecap 10,000 years ago and we'll talk.0 -
quote:Originally posted by codenamepaul
But I don't understand why anyone of any intelligence could reasonably say it is the fault of humanity.
That's fine by me. As long as it is acknowledged as actually being real, and a threat to future generations. I just don't like it whn people blatantly ignore it as fact.
quote:Show my a pic of that icecap 10,000 years ago and we'll talk.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/11/650000-years-of-greenhouse-gas-concentrations/0 -
Try this Ben, it's from the front page of the Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Department at Purdue University.
"Given the current level of understanding of phenomena like hurricanes, extratropical cyclones, and severe thunderstorms-which result from complex interactions between many scales of motion in the atmosphere-it is difficult to skillfully predict if these weather phenomena will become something extraordinary ; a similar statement may be made for events such as an extended heat wave or seasonal flooding. Adding a sense of urgency to this already complicated problem are projections of more frequent, and perhaps more intense extreme events in future climates. The Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences is responding to this problem through its focus on Climate and Extreme Weather (CLEW), which seeks to: Understand and predict the physical and statistical behavior of extreme weather and climate events."
The point is that they just don't know. I have stated many times that knowing that cancer exists is not the same thing as knowing what caused it, or how to effect a cure.
All you have to do is watch to see just how much they are guessing about the strength, duration, direction, and even whether of not a hurricane is going to make landfall to realize that they just don't know. Educated guess, but guesses nonetheless.
Look, a warming trend exists, that much is a given, but there is ample proof that it has happened many times in the past, and they were not caused by automobile exhausts. This one may or may not be caused by man, but to make a declarative statement as to cause when you can't even predict rain accurately is the height of egocentric hubris.
Watch the ten day forecast for the weather, chart it to see just how much and how frequently it changes completely, and then tell me they really know for certain about the next one hundred years.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
Look, a warming trend exists, that much is a given, but there is ample proof that it has happened many times in the past, and they were not caused by automobile exhausts.
There is also ample proof that life as the earth knew it was changed dramatically by it.
I never said that humans caused it, but I do believe that it would be stupid for us to ignore it, or worse yet, deny it's very existance.
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quote:Originally posted by fishermanben
quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
Look, a warming trend exists, that much is a given, but there is ample proof that it has happened many times in the past, and they were not caused by automobile exhausts.
There is also ample proof that life as the earth knew it was changed dramatically by it.
I never said that humans caused it, but I do believe that it would be stupid for us to ignore it, or worse yet, deny it's very existance.
Ben
To deny that it is happening is just plain foolish, it's far to easy to simply look at the heat index charts. What to do about it, if anything, is an entirely different story. Certainly long range planning, even for things like where to build new housing, needs to consider what results might take effect. It would be a mistake to build right now based on an assumption that the ocean could not raise in the next few decades for instance. I don't want to be paying the bill for new water retention walls and for houses to be moved or raised. It will be interesting to watch.[;)][:)]0
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