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Someone put me on this list and I had this in my e-mail this morning.
But it does go to show how afraid that the anti-guners are that this DC ruling will go to the supreme court and win.
Dear Lee,
Last week, a Federal Appeals Court overturned Washington D.C.'s long-standing restrictions on handguns - a decision that endangers all of America's gun laws.
This case is most likely headed to the U.S. Supreme Court and we have a tidal wave of work to do before it gets there.
This battle - to its very core - is the most important battle we have ever waged. We need your help today to build a strong Brady Gun Law Defense Fund to save America's gun laws.
This fight is so critical to the safety and sanity of our nation that an anonymous donor has extended his challenge and will match dollar for dollar all gifts to this Brady Gun Law Defense Fund. Your gift will be fully tax deductible.
The threat to all our gun laws is truly unprecedented. The hypocrisy of the ruling is astounding.
What is at stake for you and your community? An emboldened gun lobby will use the ruling to challenge strong local, state and federal gun laws.
We must prepare for an onslaught of lawsuits in which gun laws will be challenged under this new reading of the Second Amendment - a strategy the gun lobby rarely used because of past legal decisions . until now. And, if the U.S. Supreme Court reverses itself and adopts the "individual right to bear arms" view approved by the Federal Appeals Court, all good gun laws everywhere could be at risk .
... from the long-standing machine gun ban . to the 1968 Gun Control Act . to the Brady Background Check Law.
. to your local and state laws . like the ones in California and New Jersey banning Assault Weapons . and many more.
These and many other life-saving laws promoting public safety are at risk. And we need to be ready for an immediate onslaught of challenges and fight them tooth and nail. We need your help today with a tax-deductible gift!
Why is this ruling so radical? Because the decision defies almost 70 years of legal precedent. All courts before this - save one - have ruled that the Second Amendment is not an individual right to bear arms, and this is the first Federal Appeals Court ever to declare a gun law unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment.
In her dissent, Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote that Second Amendment rights relate to "Those militia whose continued vitality is required to safeguard the individual state." Unlike Judge Henderson, the two judge majority ruled against decades of legal precedent.
. And completely disregarded the democratically-expressed will of the people of the District of Columbia, depriving D.C. citizens of a strict handgun law enacted thirty years ago.
Talk about judicial activism! We can't help but note the unbelievable hypocrisy here too. Conservatives cry and gnash their teeth about activism from the bench. This decision is judicial activism at its worst.
Judge Silberman, who wrote the majority opinion, is well-known for his close ties to the right-wing. Now - with quintessential judicial activism from the bench - the gun lobby threatens to achieve through the courts what it has been unable to do in Congress.
This is going to be a long, hard fight, but with your help we will save our nation's gun laws. We will keep you up-to-date as we confront this extraordinary threat to our efforts to reduce gun violence. But right now, we need your support to build our Brady Gun Law Defense Fund. Remember that right now your gift to this fund will be doubled! Please act now.
Sincerely,
Your Friends at StoptheNRA.com
P.S. Your gift will be worth double when you give to our Brady Gun Law Defense Fund. Please give a tax-deductible gift today.
But it does go to show how afraid that the anti-guners are that this DC ruling will go to the supreme court and win.
Dear Lee,
Last week, a Federal Appeals Court overturned Washington D.C.'s long-standing restrictions on handguns - a decision that endangers all of America's gun laws.
This case is most likely headed to the U.S. Supreme Court and we have a tidal wave of work to do before it gets there.
This battle - to its very core - is the most important battle we have ever waged. We need your help today to build a strong Brady Gun Law Defense Fund to save America's gun laws.
This fight is so critical to the safety and sanity of our nation that an anonymous donor has extended his challenge and will match dollar for dollar all gifts to this Brady Gun Law Defense Fund. Your gift will be fully tax deductible.
The threat to all our gun laws is truly unprecedented. The hypocrisy of the ruling is astounding.
What is at stake for you and your community? An emboldened gun lobby will use the ruling to challenge strong local, state and federal gun laws.
We must prepare for an onslaught of lawsuits in which gun laws will be challenged under this new reading of the Second Amendment - a strategy the gun lobby rarely used because of past legal decisions . until now. And, if the U.S. Supreme Court reverses itself and adopts the "individual right to bear arms" view approved by the Federal Appeals Court, all good gun laws everywhere could be at risk .
... from the long-standing machine gun ban . to the 1968 Gun Control Act . to the Brady Background Check Law.
. to your local and state laws . like the ones in California and New Jersey banning Assault Weapons . and many more.
These and many other life-saving laws promoting public safety are at risk. And we need to be ready for an immediate onslaught of challenges and fight them tooth and nail. We need your help today with a tax-deductible gift!
Why is this ruling so radical? Because the decision defies almost 70 years of legal precedent. All courts before this - save one - have ruled that the Second Amendment is not an individual right to bear arms, and this is the first Federal Appeals Court ever to declare a gun law unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment.
In her dissent, Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote that Second Amendment rights relate to "Those militia whose continued vitality is required to safeguard the individual state." Unlike Judge Henderson, the two judge majority ruled against decades of legal precedent.
. And completely disregarded the democratically-expressed will of the people of the District of Columbia, depriving D.C. citizens of a strict handgun law enacted thirty years ago.
Talk about judicial activism! We can't help but note the unbelievable hypocrisy here too. Conservatives cry and gnash their teeth about activism from the bench. This decision is judicial activism at its worst.
Judge Silberman, who wrote the majority opinion, is well-known for his close ties to the right-wing. Now - with quintessential judicial activism from the bench - the gun lobby threatens to achieve through the courts what it has been unable to do in Congress.
This is going to be a long, hard fight, but with your help we will save our nation's gun laws. We will keep you up-to-date as we confront this extraordinary threat to our efforts to reduce gun violence. But right now, we need your support to build our Brady Gun Law Defense Fund. Remember that right now your gift to this fund will be doubled! Please act now.
Sincerely,
Your Friends at StoptheNRA.com
P.S. Your gift will be worth double when you give to our Brady Gun Law Defense Fund. Please give a tax-deductible gift today.
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The funny thing is it wasn't the NRA that got the handgun ban overturned. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
The funny thing is it wasn't the NRA that got the handgun ban overturned.
[:D][:D]
'fun to see the other side afraid
Novel seeing california as A- Grade with respect to gun laws[:(][:o)]
stopthenra.com
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California Receives an "A-" on Laws Shielding Families From Gun Violence
Legislation Grade Comments
Juvenile Possession Law B+ YES, must be 18 for handguns, must be 18 for ammo
Juvenile Sale/Transfer Law A YES, must be 21 for handguns, 18 for other firearms
Child Access Prevention Law A YES, under 18, posted, strong penalties
Gun Safety Locks and Safer Design Standards A- SOME: state-certified safety locks, banned Saturday night specials, load indicators and magazine disconnects
Allow Cities To Regulate Guns (Non-Preempt) B+ YES - only local licensing or registration laws are preempted
Secondary "Private" Sales Background Checks A YES, all sales through dealer, 10-day wait
Carrying Concealed Weapons Law B+ Police have discretion, some limits, training
Extra Credit Demerits
Strengthened law to disarm domestic violence abusers; strengthened law prohibiting ammo sales to minors. No Demerits Given
Links Grading Criteria
National Press Release
State Press0 -
Thank you.
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I guess you are going to be our new spy. We need to know the other sides comments so we can counter them. 0 -
Thanks for adding a little sunshine to my morning.....Its always nice to see the Brady bunch pissing themselves
Dammit....I got one too. I knew I shouldn't have taken that survey0 -
I got the same one. Too bad the NRA does not have a donor who will match dollar for dollar any contribution to them also. 0 -
why are Gifts to the Brady Gun Law Defense Fund tax deductable and Gifts to the NRA are not? 0 -
i received one also
they have to be from the poll we filled out0 -
idiots. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
why are Gifts to the Brady Gun Law Defense Fund tax deductable and Gifts to the NRA are not?
According to the NRA website, they are:
In 1990, NRA made a dramatic move to ensure that the financial support for firearms-related activities would be available now and for future generations. Establishing the NRA Foundation, a 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt organization, provided a means to raise millions of dollars to fund gun safety and educational projects of benefit to the general public. Contributions to the Foundation are tax-deductible and benefit a variety of American constituencies, including youths, women, hunters, competitive shooters, gun collectors, law enforcement agents and persons with physical disabilities.0 -
I didn't see this and posted another.I put my name on their email list to get this stuff from them,Know Your Enemy! 0 -
...I'll 2nd the "idiots"...pathetic insight into these freaks mindset...[xx(] 
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Before you break out the bubbly, you need to go here ;
http://www.jpfo.org/alert20070312.htm
and read what JPFO has to say about this decision...0 -
Thanks. I recieved the same e-mail on an old e-mail account that I don't use anymore. 0 -
I got one too.
More than likely it is from when we all voted in the poll on the Brady bunch site regarding gun control.0 -
quote:Originally posted by brier-49
I didn't see this and posted another.I put my name on their email list to get this stuff from them,Know Your Enemy!
Good point.0 -
i got one to. yes its from the survey we took awhile back.like brier-49 said "know your enemy" [}:)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
The funny thing is it wasn't the NRA that got the handgun ban overturned.
You might want to read the whole court opinion. When you do, note the amicus briefs by Robert Dowlut and Stefan Tahmassebi. They are the General Counsel and Deputy General Counsel of the NRA.
However, I believe it is true that the NRA wasn't eager to see this case proceed because of concerns similar to those cited in the link posted by Highball. Most folks have absolutely no idea how damaging negative precedent can be in a legal battle.0 -
I sent them a return e-mail. I mentioned that DC has the most restrictive gun-control laws in the country coupled with the highest crime rates in the country, and could they please explain to me why it is that the life-saving laws promoting public safety have not been effective there.
I also mentioned that there has never been any proof that any of their life-saving laws promoting public safety have ever had any affect on crime whatsoever, and actually have done nothing but prevent victims from defending themselves from criminals, who ignore any and all laws.
I remarked that the NRA had nothing to do with the recent DC court ruling.
They have not yet answered my message.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bluez06
quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
The funny thing is it wasn't the NRA that got the handgun ban overturned.
You might want to read the whole court opinion. When you do, note the amicus briefs by Robert Dowlut and Stefan Tahmassebi. They are the General Counsel and Deputy General Counsel of the NRA.
However, I believe it is true that the NRA wasn't eager to see this case proceed because of concerns similar to those cited in the link posted by Highball. Most folks have absolutely no idea how damaging negative precedent can be in a legal battle.
With great risk comes great reward! I for one am not satisfied with the status quo. Slowly dwindling the right that are provided by the Constitution of the United States of America is not a winning strategy. It is a plan for failure. This is a right that is as much American as the Right to Free Speech.
What if we lose? Then we live our lives under the oppression it brings us, or maybe we could lead an effort to change the constitution so that it says something like "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." This way everyone will know it is a constitutional right!
Are we afraid of failure?
Actually, I do love the fantasy that the gun-controlling nazi's give us.
... from the long-standing machine gun ban . to the 1968 Gun Control Act . to the Brady Background Check LawNow that is a dream worth dreaming!
We are never bigger than our dream. The size of ourdreams is the first limiting factor.0 -
Those Jews are a pesimistic bunch!
The court says gun control is unconstitutional and they say yeah but otherwise. SO> We'll be the same position we are today. Kalifornia outlaws everything. Cook County is for commies, and the residence of D.C. fear for their lives.
...and people wonder where stereotypes come from.0 -
I got it too! It must have been from that survey thing someone posted.[:(!] 0 -
Only a fool goes into a battle knowing nothing about the enemy or his possible plans. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by sig232
This fight is so critical to the safety and sanity of our nation that an anonymous donor has extended his challenge and will match dollar for dollar all gifts to this Brady Gun Law Defense Fund.
Hmmmmmm. It wouldn't be George Soros would it? What a mystery! [:o)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
The funny thing is it wasn't the NRA that got the handgun ban overturned.
For God's sake man, tell us who does get the credit?0 -
Finally something good happens around here. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
quote:Originally posted by bluez06
quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
The funny thing is it wasn't the NRA that got the handgun ban overturned.
You might want to read the whole court opinion. When you do, note the amicus briefs by Robert Dowlut and Stefan Tahmassebi. They are the General Counsel and Deputy General Counsel of the NRA.
However, I believe it is true that the NRA wasn't eager to see this case proceed because of concerns similar to those cited in the link posted by Highball. Most folks have absolutely no idea how damaging negative precedent can be in a legal battle.
With great risk comes great reward! I for one am not satisfied with the status quo. Slowly dwindling the right that are provided by the Constitution of the United States of America is not a winning strategy. It is a plan for failure. This is a right that is as much American as the Right to Free Speech.
What if we lose? Then we live our lives under the oppression it brings us, or maybe we could lead an effort to change the constitution so that it says something like "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." This way everyone will know it is a constitutional right!
Are we afraid of failure?
Actually, I do love the fantasy that the gun-controlling nazi's give us.
... from the long-standing machine gun ban . to the 1968 Gun Control Act . to the Brady Background Check LawNow that is a dream worth dreaming!
We are never bigger than our dream. The size of ourdreams is the first limiting factor.
Big talk...but what's the biggest bet you've ever placed in Vegas? Willing to bet your entire net worth on black? (a guy from England did and won, so you wouldn't be the first)
Given that gun laws have been an incrementally creeping menace, why not bide a little time for a better Supreme Court? To use a poker analogy, why force a bad hand now when we might get a great hand on the next deal?0 -
The survey was a trap. I as well as many others fell for it. Now we are part of their lying anti gun stats. Never do anything like this unless you're absolutely sure it's a friendly organization like NRA, GOA, GB, etc. Fool me once your fault, fool me twice my fault.[:(!] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by bluez06
Given that gun laws have been an incrementally creeping menace, why not bide a little time for a better Supreme Court? To use a poker analogy, why force a bad hand now when we might get a great hand on the next deal?
Don't hold your breath on that one. Life expectancies aren't THAT long.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dak To 68
quote:Originally posted by bluez06
Given that gun laws have been an incrementally creeping menace, why not bide a little time for a better Supreme Court? To use a poker analogy, why force a bad hand now when we might get a great hand on the next deal?
Don't hold your breath on that one. Life expectancies aren't THAT long.[;)]
How many years did we go without a Republican controlled House and Senate? (of course, that's changed...) It can happen. Roberts, Thomas, and Scalia are relatively young compared to most of the other more liberal justices.0
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