Is a new Holocaust coming?
Do you think it is within the realm of possibility that one day a new Holocaust will arise?
I know what many of you are thinking - it'll be the Muslims doing it to us, but let's face facts: there's no way in Hell even a united Islam would be able to carry out the sort of pogrom the Holocaust was on us - we're simply too wealthy, powerful, and well-armed.
No, the Holocaust I envision will be Americans or Europeans purging their homes of Muslims who are ungrateful, violent, and destabilizing. There has been very little integration between Arab communities and Western ones, yet they still keep coming.
Will we ever reach the point where we say not only "no more", but seek to turn the clock back by any means necessary?
And if we do, will it mean the Nazis had a point?
Mind you, I'm not trying to bait anyone with this question - with all the troubles we have with illegal immigrants and a creeping sort of Islamization (is that even a proper term?) infesting our lives and livelihoods, it seems to me almost inevitable that eventually the populace will reach a breaking point and agree to go along with whatever it takes to get rid of the perceived source of all of our ills.
You will note that Europe has not had any pogroms ever since they go rid of their Jews. The Nazis killed half of them out of hate, post-war Europe got rid of the other half by giving them Israel.
Will history repeat itself? Will someone who will later be decried as a mad man solve our "immigrant problem" in a manner that is thoroughly inhumane yet will wind up keeping the peace for the next several decades if not centuries?
I only ask this aloud because treaties are not worth the paper they're printed on nor the ink used to sign them. Treaties are broken and signed all the time, UN resolutions come and go, but homogeny brought about by force of arms has a tendency to last a long time.
I'm not going to question the morality of this because it's a question of my home versus someone else's life and whether or not taking out the latter will guarantee the security of the former. It's how far we're willing to go as a society that makes me wonder, but at this point in time, not judge.
I know what many of you are thinking - it'll be the Muslims doing it to us, but let's face facts: there's no way in Hell even a united Islam would be able to carry out the sort of pogrom the Holocaust was on us - we're simply too wealthy, powerful, and well-armed.
No, the Holocaust I envision will be Americans or Europeans purging their homes of Muslims who are ungrateful, violent, and destabilizing. There has been very little integration between Arab communities and Western ones, yet they still keep coming.
Will we ever reach the point where we say not only "no more", but seek to turn the clock back by any means necessary?
And if we do, will it mean the Nazis had a point?
Mind you, I'm not trying to bait anyone with this question - with all the troubles we have with illegal immigrants and a creeping sort of Islamization (is that even a proper term?) infesting our lives and livelihoods, it seems to me almost inevitable that eventually the populace will reach a breaking point and agree to go along with whatever it takes to get rid of the perceived source of all of our ills.
You will note that Europe has not had any pogroms ever since they go rid of their Jews. The Nazis killed half of them out of hate, post-war Europe got rid of the other half by giving them Israel.
Will history repeat itself? Will someone who will later be decried as a mad man solve our "immigrant problem" in a manner that is thoroughly inhumane yet will wind up keeping the peace for the next several decades if not centuries?
I only ask this aloud because treaties are not worth the paper they're printed on nor the ink used to sign them. Treaties are broken and signed all the time, UN resolutions come and go, but homogeny brought about by force of arms has a tendency to last a long time.
I'm not going to question the morality of this because it's a question of my home versus someone else's life and whether or not taking out the latter will guarantee the security of the former. It's how far we're willing to go as a society that makes me wonder, but at this point in time, not judge.
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yes the black americans will unite with the ethnic whites to drive the invading southern hoards south of the panama canal. 0 -
Once we get a cresent sewn onto thier clothing to identify them and then herd them into a ghetto we can let nature take its course. The film Schindler's List maps out the Gun Broker plan of action very nicely, although the half-measures those whimpy Nazis used against the Jews will not fly here...Gun Broker members demand real action! Our only problem is that our members might not be able to find time to leave their duties of shooting Mexicans as they enter the United States to deal with this other chore. 0 -
Dude, lets attempt to seal up the borders first, then we can "cleanse" our muslim issues in a final solution scenario. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
Do you think it is within the realm of possibility that one day a new Holocaust will arise?
I doubt America would just all of a sudden turn on its Muslim population. Unlike post-WWI Germany, we aren't suffering from economic depression or severe unemployment. Its only when people don't have any hope that they become attracted to these radical ideas.
Given the right catalyst, it could happen. A SEVERE depression (bigger than 1929) coupled with a 9/11 style attack could very well turn this nation into a fascist monster unseen since the darkest days of the second World War.0 -
I hate to say this and it's contrary to most of what I believe, but I'm not so sure that would be a bad thing. 0 -
The muslim threat is nothing compared to the mexican threat 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
I hate to say this and it's contrary to most of what I believe, but I'm not so sure that would be a bad thing.
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Hello "ElMuertoMonkey[:)]
I don't visit this board too often. When I did and read some of your statements I considered you a "Whack-job". When a SOUTHERN gentleman make a mistake he admits it and makes an apology. Sir I owe you an apology and you have my sincere public apology.
Im nearly computer illiterate but I am trying to attach a blog to my post. Looks like I managed it.
Read this forty-page official government report and you will have significant reservations about all US politicians and bureaucrats, no matter what their political persuasion.
And, remember, President Bush says the immigration issue is not of interest to the citizens. Well, it is to me. What are we going to do, surrender without a fight? Enough, already, of the politically correct oatmeal from the left and the cowards of the right. Get rid of the illegals, no matter how deserving they may be, how many children they might have, or the number of leaf blowers and weed cutters they might possess.
Close the border from west to east. Some weenies say we can't close the border. Oh . Make the border a killing zone and toss the survivors back on their side of the border.
Establish a verifiable biometric system for anyone trying to enter the US.
English is the language, folks. Let us ensure that we have language integrity.
Toss out the illegals, not matter where they are from, if they are willing to go--kill those aren't willing to leave.
Stop the deceptive 'anchor baby' practise whereby the new-born child becomes a citizen and brings in the family.
Cease all medical aid to illegals, no matter what the problem.
NO special social, language, economic consideration to illegals in or considering school.
NO bilingual ballots or other government documents. NONE.
NO interpreters except for criminals.
NO welfare or public aid to ANY illegal, for any purpose, except for shipping the *#*#* out of the US.
Tax at current IRS rates all US funds sent overseas.
Demand proof of citizenship for any commercial transaction. No proof and the illegal's butt goes to jail for a long time; when released, the illegal is dropped back in his native country (one way of dropping is as good as another).
What about the illegal ragheads? Why not execution on apprehension. Those resident weenies of the left and right who are against capital punishment or are against violence for some other reason can go to hell. Show me one dead raghead who has committed a criminal act! Death has a social utility. The US is not a refuge for every alien who can run, jump, or swim their way to the US, nor is the US a massive rehabilitation centre.
That is my conservative opinion and I am Charles Guatney
Have a blessed day[:D]
Remember God sometimes gives us a second chance -- I am living proof!
Steve Adams
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I would say it'd be holocaust, i think it'd be more like the crusades [;)] 0 -
emm,
i don't know exactly how to respond to your question.
my up bringing has taught me to be tolerant, understand, and accept those different from me and their views. plus stand fast to my own ideals...but then i look around and see this country and how things have changed. people are scared of nearly everything from riding a bicycle without a helmet (like we did when growing up) to SARS and bird flu to jets hitting buildings (no disrespect to anyone about 9/11).
for decades now, people have been coming here to live and thrive, and i have never begrudged them their dream to be more than what they were in their respective countries. and even though there are thousands upon thousands of acres of undeveloped land, people congregate where there is already an overflow of people. cities like NY, Houston, LA, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Miami are filling faster than they can develope spilling over into smaller communities. this creates tension faster and faster. things are reaching a boiling point...and one of these days, during one of these so called protests, one spark...one reaction to a statement...one person being too close to another during a dramatic movement...and a riot will occur. one riot in one place will cause reaction in another pitting one ethnic group against another, mass beatings and deaths will happen until finally someone either makes Congress get off their lazy butts or stands and says "lock and load, man your station or get out of the way." That will be when the line is drawn and could lead to other nasty things.
while being distracted with the race riots, another attack would and could occur to cripple reponse to the riots, take out communications, cripple money centers, power sources, the very seat of government. at that point we will no longer be fighting for the 2nd, lower taxes, or who looks better in a dress Hillary or Bill. we will be facing the "Red Dawn" or "Jericho" scenario. I pray for us all that that will not happen.0 -
I certainly see social convulsions on the horizon for Europe and when their economy takes a dump all over their heads (and it likely will within the next few years) I would suggest, very strongly, to the Muslims to flee whilst they could.
As the Muslims have not assimilated at all, picking them out as targets will be easy as pie for the various governments. And when one European government decides to do get rid of their Muslims, the others will too, for fear of absorbing all the refugees.
As for here in America? Doubt it. Not unless something heinous happened to our economy (which might happen, since GWB has been printing money faster than he can burn it) or another 9/11 happened (again, a distinct possibility, due to the laughable efforts to secure our borders).
Another thing that might force the issue would be a unification of the Middle East. This HIGHLY UNLIKELY event would basically draw very clear lines of Arabs vs. Everyone Else. But, if that were to happen, the very scary notion of a large fifth column (yes, I realize the irony of using that phrase here) loyal to an empire that holds 90+% of the world's oil would make pogroms much easier for governments to sell to their populaces.
The Arab world is a medieval cess pool of corruption and oppression, unfit for the camel s*** that spatters the streets. Their leaders, under the guise of religion, spout their message of hate for the very secular goal of maintaining political control.
The world doesn't need pogroms against Muslims, just pograms against their leaders.0 -
naahh. we can't get up off our asses and kick out illegals, we sho 'nuff aren't going to do anything even close a holocaust.
race riots won't happen on a scale like that, people have jobs to go to, tv to watch and a home life. maybe a night ot two of silliness, but they'd want to go right back to life as usual. ain't gonna happen like that.0 -
not to mention that we're building them amenities like foot baths in public places. soon enough there'll a few more politicians from that hive and then we can talk about some sort of big change. bushmaster is right, while people aren't hurting there isn't going to be anything that would change. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
I would say it'd be holocaust, i think it'd be more like the crusades [;)]
It can't happen soon enought!!!
Dean0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dean Cascio
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
I would say it'd be holocaust, i think it'd be more like the crusades [;)]
It can't happen soon enought!!!
Dean
I am sure the last iraq war will be viewed as start of second crusades in five hundred years or so [:D]0 -
Just let DOT shut down the trucking lines. In two weeks the country would be in flames. Cities are not set up for a long haul siege and everyone could take it out on the __________. You fill in the blank. 0 -
Crusade...yes,Muslims view it as such, and we laughed twenty some years ago when Jihads we announced. At 9/11 we were laughing, but today some politicians are once again laughing at the idea that Islam is a threat to America.
Sometimes I think politicians think of on Mexican labor as the next best thing to legalized slavery. It's a vast source of cheap labor that can be used at America's whim. Can a nation have too much cheap, uneducated, underpaid labor? Did the South say "You know what...We have too many Negroes who are currently considered "less than a citezen"? No. They indulged in more. Today is the same. We think illegal labor is a good thing and we cannot have too much.0
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