US made cutlery
Looking for some decent knives, just kitchen knives. So far I've been looking at LampsonSharp, is there anyone else that makes good forged cutlery? Preferably made here, in the US.
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My mom has had a set of Cutco for years, and still prefers them.
She gave me a "fancy" set of some French sounding expensive crap, and I have to sharpen them about every 2 months.
I may look into some myself!
Only thing I know about Old Hickory, is I have 1 knife from someone in my family from umpteen years ago. Dirty, nasty looking knife, but it does cut.0 -
Pa does Cutco also make Ka-Bar knives? 0 -
quote:Kabar is owned by Cutco, but not all Kabar is made here in the States, most of the Kabar fighting knives, Usmc and such are made in Olean.
Kabar was originally all made in Olean Ny, the company closed it's doors many years ago but the Kabar name was used on various knives made by various cutlerys throughout the world.
Cutco later bought Kabar, and returned some of the knife making back to Olean. As I stated before, most of the fighting knives are made and assembled here in Olean. Most of the jack knives are still farmed out throughout the world!!!
c1800 The U.S. cutlery industry begins in New England when a group of cutlers from England's famous Sheffield Cutlery Industry ban together in small factories.
Late 1800's A group of cutlers settles in the Western New York and Northern Pennsylvania area.
April 29, 1897 As an association to the Secretary of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania a group of 38 men apply to form a Limited Partnership whose purpose is to manufacture and sell cutlery. The formation of this Limited Partnership, known as Tidioute Cutlery Company, is now widely considered to be the beginnings of Ka-Bar's history.
1898 The first cutlery items are produced and sold by Tidioute Cutlery Company.
c1900 Experiencing financial difficulties, the Tidioute Cutlery Company was dissolved.
January 1902 Mr. Wallace R. Brown purchases the assets of the Tidioute Cutlery Company.
March 1902 A new association headed by Mr. Brown applies to the Governor of Pennsylvania to form a corporation, to be known as the Union Razor Company, for the purpose of manufacturing and selling cutlery.
April 1902 The new Pennsylvania company is in full operation with Brown serving as Chairman and CEO.
January 25, 1909 The company name is changed from Union Razor Company to Union Cutlery Company in order to more accurately reflect the products manufactured.
1910 The City of Olean, New York, approaches Wallace Brown and the company's Directors and proposes the relocation of the company to their city.
December 1911 A new, State of New York, corporation is registered as the Union Cutlery Company, Olean, New York, creating two Union Cutlery Company incorporations: the original in Tidioute, Pennsylvania and the one set up by Wallace Brown in Olean, New York. With the Olean facility operating successfully, the Tidioute, Pennsylvania plant is closed down.
1912 Operations are in full swing at Union Cutlery Company's new location at 434 North Ninth Street, Olean, New York.
1920's Transition period of mixed markings which embellished the blades and handles of the older Union Razor knives and newer model Union Cutlery knives. During this period trademarks like OLCUT, KEENWELL, and the now famous, KABAR are adopted.
1924 Wallace Brown falls ill and dies. His brother, Emerson Brown, is quick to assume the role of authority at the company.
1931 Emerson Brown, President until his death, is superseded by his nephew, Danforth Brown, son of the original Chairman and CEO, Wallace R. Brown.
c 1942 Soon after the start of World War II, the Union Cutlery Company submits a Ka-Bar branded knife to the U.S. Marine Corps for issue to fighting personnel.
1945 Although the original design presented was not up to par, the Marine Corps accepts a reworked design of the knife and begins issuing it as their standard fighting/utility knife.
1952 Due to its role in the War, the Ka-Bar name had achieved such a high level of fame that Danforth Brown and the directors of the company decide to change the corporate name to Ka-Bar Cutlery, Inc., dropping the Union Cutlery name entirely.
1954 An unsuccessful attempt is made to transfer the manufacturing operations of KA-BAR Cutlery, Inc., from New York to Dawsonville, Georgia.
1955 The company is regrouped back in Olean at its original factory site.
March 1960 Danforth Brown dies. Subsequently, the company changes hands several times.
1961 The Brown family sells Ka-Bar to two Olean businessmen who in turn sell it to a group of business entrepreneurs that lead the company into Chapter 11. Attempts to reorganize fail and the company is forced into liquidation. With intentions of reestablishing the business, Robinson Knife Company purchases the assets of the company.
1966 Robinson Knife Company sells the Ka-Bar operations to Cole National Corporation in Cleveland, Ohio.
1975 As a part of its efforts to revive the company, Ka-Bar establishes a special Collectors' Division. Its purpose is to produce significant and commemorative knives, to recreate famous antique Ka-Bar knives and actively support the development and enjoyment of knife collecting in general.
1976 The first knife is produced by the newly formed Collectors Club: a full dress version of the USMC Fighting/Utility knife, produced in limited number.
1977 The USMC Commemorative was so enthusiastically received that the company returns the knife, in its standard issue form, to regular production.
1982 Cole National Corporation falls into a period of business difficulty that puts the company into bankruptcy. During liquidation the Ka-Bar product line is purchased by American Consumer Products and moved to Solon, Ohio.
May 1996 The Ka-Bar product line and assets are sold to Alcas Corporation of Olean, New York.
June 6, 1996 The acquired assets of Ka-Bar are relocated to Alcas Corporation's Olean headquarters.
Late 1997 KA-BAR Knives, Inc. dramatically enhances its national product distribution with the addition of five manufacturing representative firms whose territory spans the entire United States.
1998 KA-BAR celebrates its 100th year of business.
2003 KA-BAR moves to its current location, 200 Homer Street, Olean, NY.0 -
A simple "yes" or "no" answer would have served, Pa....[;)][:D] 0 -
Ok yes it is made in the US and no it is not made in the US!!!
Are ya happy now????[:D]0 -
Thanks Pa, I prefered your version to the yes and no version.[^]
I thought I remembered that you worked for Ka-Bar, so I was trying to figure out where Cutco fit in. Looks like it fits just fine.0 -
Glad I could help!!! It is sad that so many of our Cutlerys have sold out over seas!!!
On a positive note, it has increased the opportunity for many private individual knifemakers to thrive. Most of whom make a damm fine knife!!!0 -
Sabatier,.......is what I have, I just looked.
They are very expensive, but won't hold an edge worth crap![xx(]0 -
I have a Sabatier from the late 60's that holds and edge forever, but rusts if you breath on it. Needless to say it does not get used much.
I finally broke down and had a custom skinning knife made Pa. Stock reduction, and I got to watch it being started, fit to my hand and put together the way I wanted it. It is really supurb, but at $175 I won't be ordering a full set.0 -
Hell thats cheap for a custome made knife!!! Id love to see it!!! 0 -
In all fairness, the Sabatier kitchen knives I have, are probably from the early nineties.
Obviously they have changed!0 -
Pabooger
All of that garbage just turned me away from anything with a Cutco name attached to it for life..
Sounded like all of those people that preached Smith&Wesson and Remington rifles at me while growing up.
Could not give me neither one.
I will stick with my Colts, Winchesters and Old Hickory knives.0 -
LesWVa:
Do I look like I give a rats ass what you think??? [:D]
Old Hickory Knives are ok for what you pay for them, but you can't compare them to a quality knife like Cutco or Heinkle. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
I work at Cutco, I live 8 miles from the Case Cutlery, Cutco is owned by Alcas corporation, Alcas is short for Alcoa Case!!! But Im not going into explaining the History to you!! It ain't worth it!!!
Cutco makes a quality high end knife, Case makes a quality High end sporting knife. Ontario Knife is just down the road a few miles In Franklinville Ny, they make Old Hickory. Ive been in all 3 plants, Ive had friends and relatives that work or have worked in all three!!
Evidently you are more of an expert on the subject, so I'll let you carry on with the discussion!!![:p]0 -
quote:Originally posted by pabooger
LesWVa:
Do I look like I give a rats ass what you think??? [:D]
Old Hickory Knives are ok for what you pay for them, but you can't compare them to a quality knife like Cutco or Heinkle. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
I work at Cutco, I live 8 miles from the Case Cutlery, Cutco is owned by Alcas corporation, Alcas is short for Alcoa Case!!! But Im not going into explaining the History to you!! It ain't worth it!!!
Cutco makes a quality high end knife, Case makes a quality High end sporting knife. Ontario Knife is just down the road a few miles In Franklinville Ny, they make Old Hickory. Ive been in all 3 plants, Ive had friends and relatives that work or have worked in all three!!
Evidently you are more of an expert on the subject, so I'll let you carry on with the discussion!!![:p]
(Mike is too lazy to log Andrea out then log in....)
yeah Pa...It's not like you would know anything about cutlery....geez
I just can't believe no one mentioned 'ginsu's"... you know, as seen on TV0 -
Oh Geesh ya had to mention that didn't ya????[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pabooger
LesWVa:
Do I look like I give a rats ass what you think??? [:D]
Old Hickory Knives are ok for what you pay for them, but you can't compare them to a quality knife like Cutco or Heinkle. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
I work at Cutco, I live 8 miles from the Case Cutlery, Cutco is owned by Alcas corporation, Alcas is short for Alcoa Case!!! But Im not going into explaining the History to you!! It ain't worth it!!!
Cutco makes a quality high end knife, Case makes a quality High end sporting knife. Ontario Knife is just down the road a few miles In Franklinville Ny, they make Old Hickory. Ive been in all 3 plants, Ive had friends and relatives that work or have worked in all three!!
Evidently you are more of an expert on the subject, so I'll let you carry on with the discussion!!![:p]
Man, you should do live with your panties in a knot. Chill out, bro.0 -
I don't wear Panties I wear boxers!!![:p] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pabooger
I don't wear Panties I wear boxers!!![:p]
From tone of your posts, I get an impression that you surely do! [;)]0 -
[:D][:D][:D] 0 -
Sounds like Ford and GM..
To hear them tell it they build the best cars and trucks going.
Which they most likely do with the imported garbage parts that they have to work with.
Wonder why everyone buys Toyota?0 -
quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
Anyone ever hear of Old Hickory knives. If so what ever happen to them?
Still around, just bought some as knives for processing. Still carbon steel.
GREAT KNIVES!0
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