Finding Military Personnel
Is there a site on the web or a place you can call that will tell you were someone is stationed and what company they are in? I'm trying to locate a Marine. I tried the search on Military.com, but no luck. Thanks for any suggestions.
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go to marines.togetherweserved.com
try that. If not there may be someone that was also in the same unit at the same time.
What are you trying to find out? (Just curious)0 -
quote:Originally posted by codenamepaul
go to marines.togetherweserved.com
try that. If not there may be someone that was also in the same unit at the same time.
What are you trying to find out? (Just curious)
Working a case where my suspect is a Marine. The base I thought he was at had no record of him and the person I dealt with was no help. Thought one of you ex-military types might have a quick answer. The search continues!0 -
EASY...
find a Marine on either ACDU, or AR and have them search MOL..or they can search "3270"...it will pull up EVERYTHING on him...
if you can send me a SSN...i can get it for you....seriously. if NOT, i can maybe scrounge up something with Fname, MI, Lname..0 -
quote:Originally posted by MN Hunter
EASY...
find a Marine on either ACDU, or AR and have them search MOL..or they can search "3270"...it will pull up EVERYTHING on him...
if you can send me a SSN...i can get it for you....seriously. if NOT, i can maybe scrounge up something with Fname, MI, Lname..
That's my problem, I don't have a SS#. Marine HQ basically told me I was SOL without a SS#.
Somebody just gave me a number for a Marine military police connection. Wish me luck.0 -
which is true. everything in the service (as you may or may not know) revolves around the SSN...
if you can somehow in any get that...your search will be over..[B)][B)]
sorry i couldnt be of more help...0 -
ohh just thought of something...
if you can send me his first and last name, ill search mol (Marine OnLine)...it will give me is last updated location (last place he checked in at..) it will most likely also provide a contact number for that unit...if not, thats the easy part [;)]
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While you're thinking, MN_Hunter, think about prosecution under the UCMJ. You should know that you cannot give out another member's personal data. 0 -
its public info.......
any past, present, former has access to it..
what article of the UCMJ talks about it?0 -
quote:its public info.......
any past, present, former has access to it..
Then Wrangler should be able to search and find it on his own, if he is authorized access. There is a reason that MOL requires registration and self registration is only available to active duty.
quote:what article of the UCMJ talks about it?
As a minimum: Art 92: Failure to Obey an Order or Regulation
in violation of : NAVMC 2927 ANTITERRORISM/FORCE PROTECTION PLAN
& Privacy Act of 1974
Are you honestly telling me that you have never received a Force Protection briefing, or any other briefing or training that told you NOT to divulge personal data?? Your willingness and eagerness to sell out a brother that you do not know is abhorent. You do not know Wrangler(or do you?), you do not know his agenda, but yet you are very anxious to provide him with the information he seeks.
quote:if you can send me a SSN...i can get it for you....seriously. if NOT, i can maybe scrounge up something with Fname, MI, Lname..
What info would you provide of person with whom you work??? A person that you may know very intimate details about??
Personal data of military personnel is difficult for J.Q. Public to find for a reason!!!!!!!0 -
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quote:Originally posted by scrumpyjack
quote:its public info.......
any past, present, former has access to it..
Then Wrangler should be able to search and find it on his own, if he is authorized access. There is a reason that MOL requires registration and self registration is only available to active duty.
quote:what article of the UCMJ talks about it?
As a minimum: Art 92: Failure to Obey an Order or Regulation
in violation of : NAVMC 2927 ANTITERRORISM/FORCE PROTECTION PLAN
& Privacy Act of 1974
Are you honestly telling me that you have never received a Force Protection briefing, or any other briefing or training that told you NOT to divulge personal data?? Your willingness and eagerness to sell out a brother that you do not know is abhorent. You do not know Wrangler(or do you?), you do not know his agenda, but yet you are very anxious to provide him with the information he seeks.
quote:if you can send me a SSN...i can get it for you....seriously. if NOT, i can maybe scrounge up something with Fname, MI, Lname..
What info would you provide of person with whom you work??? A person that you may know very intimate details about??
Personal data of military personnel is difficult for J.Q. Public to find for a reason!!!!!!!
MOL is only available to ACDU?? lol lol...try again FLYBOY...i can log on whenever i damn well please...and yes...im out of the service..
and your "force protection" meetings can blow it out your ass. art. 92 and force protection have absolutely nothing to do with each other. force protection deals with "securing/protecting yourself"...but maybe in the air farce. [xx(]
my willingness to "sell out a brother"...who am i selling out?? a POS marine that deserves what he gets....or "covering up" for him? we, as MARINES, are suppose to have certain "traits" (which are not taught in other branches) if i had ANY honor, integrity, etc etc. id do everything in my power to see that he gets what he gets. dont worry, ill cover up for the next murderer in my home town.."brother"
as an LEO he is more than entitled to that info (as yes, i would of checked his credentials)
so whats the difference between me knowing..and SAYING that say....ahhhh nunn lives in X town, texas as a cop? or me saying person B...happens to be stationed at camp FU?
and who says i just dont "know the guy" [:(!][:(!][:(!]
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if the member is logged on to classmate.com, I keep in touch with guys ive worked with thru this site.
works good.
at military .com you can search for members also0 -
Scrumpyjack: Great post with regs shown. I can see no reason for john Q Publick to have access to Military files. Our Military records, even
those recorded at County Court Houses are only accessed or copied by
next of kin WITH PROOF of such. Since (at least, Army serial numbers
are ones S.S. #) this info should NEVER be given out. Granted, prior to Korea or thereabouts a Military serial # was not a S.S.#). Our service records should only be open to next of kin only with proof. Not any prying eyes for unknown reasons. I just wonder if MN Hunter would like his whole damn career spread out, with his name, address, S.S. # for any
one to see and possibly use. We vets are usually proud of our Military Service but dont want it as a place for missuse and fraud.0 -
ohh my you guys are lost.
forget it.
YOU ARE ALL RIGHT..i was wrong [B)][B)]
oohhh and joe...dont even try and tell me that you are more proud of your WWII service, than i am of mine [:(!][:(!][:(!]0 -
Pride of Service has nothing to do with it. Just aiding someone to
get info for fraud purposes possibly is not a good thing. If it is a civil matter with this guy, let the authorities take over.0 -
It has been a long time since I have been on active duty. It would be news to me, however, if a person's name and/or address would be classified. When I served, this type information was considered public information, similar to what one might find in a local telephone book. If you are looking for a Marine, call one of their larger bases, like Marine Corps Base (MCB), Camp Pendleton, California, or MCB Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, ask for the number to the Base Locator. Base Locator Service is generally provided by Post Office Personnel that work in the Directory Section of the PO. Folks in these offices use to have access to all Marines worldwide, and the only information they can provide to the public is the Rank, Fisrt Name, Middle Initial, and Last Name, plus the Unit attached to, plus the Unit's Mailing Address. The Army, Navy, and Air Force use to provide the same service to the public for their members as well.
Make sure you ask for the Post Office, because some other locator service might not be able to help you.0 -
No one is talking about classified info...big difference here. And yet, no difference at all. Your personal data kept by the DOD is protected by law from smartass young punks that want to strut for their online buddies. While MN_Hunter may be authorized by his IRR status to use MOL, his volunteering another individual's personal data would be cateqorized as "Unauthorized Use" and unlawful use of a secured DOD computer system and database application, and abuse of privilege. All of which is criminally punishable. Just because he has access to the info, it does not make it right!
If Wrangler is a sworn law enforcement officer in the state of Texas and has the need to access this individual for an investigation, there are legal channels that can be worked. IE: Contacting the closest NCIS office and presenting them with probable cause could yield results.
Kimi, you must have been in a very long time ago. Even prior to 9-11, we were not allowed to divulge another member's personal data. Many, many things changed after 9-11. Most installations restricted the information that was posted on their websites concerning personnel, troop movements, even base maps dissappeared for awhile. In the old days base locator was the base switchboard operator during normal duty hours and was then transferred to billeting after hours. (Atleast at one of the bases I was stationed at). At most you were given an individual's duty phone and possibly unit. Never, was home phone, address, deployment status, etc. given out, not even to family members. The Red Cross can contact service members quickly in the event of an emergency.
We're not talking about classified information.....we're talking about privileged and private information. Would you like someone to come knocking on your door making accusations, whether true or not, and find out that some young punk illegally accessed your private information and eagerly passed it on to this person so they could find you???
I make contact frequently with old comrades. When they ask for someone else's phone number, I tell them I'll check with person and get back with them. The requestor respects this and the requestee expects these actions!
Whether the Marine in question is guilty or not is not anyone's concern but a court's. No facts were given other than he is a suspect in a case, no mention of the type of case or degree of involvement. And that shouldn't matter anyway.
ALL Past, present and future Warfighters have the duty to protect our brothers' and sisters' privacy!!
How many Veterans and Active Duty Marines now feel secure in knowing that all of your persnal info can be so easily provided, at the asking, on an internet bulletin board, by some punk, just because he is granted access???0 -
quote:my willingness to "sell out a brother"...who am i selling out?? a POS marine that deserves what he gets....or "covering up" for him? we, as MARINES, are suppose to have certain "traits" (which are not taught in other branches) if i had ANY honor, integrity, etc etc
Well....somewhere along the way I guess we managed to just absorb honor and integrity from the Corps because it wasn't a "Flyboy" that came on the world wide web and advertised his access to private military personnel data and his willingness to share it with anyone that says they're law enforcement. [;)]0 -
scrumpyjack:
I retired in 1981. Things might have changed since then, but to what extent, I do not know. Locating a person, be they civilian or military, was done by calling information. To obtain this type of information at military bases, during my day, was generally achieved by calling a military base and asking for the base locator, and after hours the switchboard operator did often handle this service as you mention, sometimes it was done by the MPs, or maybe by the Staff Duty Officer, be they the Officer of the Day, or the Command Duty Officer. These individuals had very limited information as compared to the extensive, and up to date records kept by all military post offices for the readdressal of mail, which is required by regulations. Which is why I emphasized to contact the base post office.
Military post office personnel provided the same type of locator service in terms of unit address as a civilian can receive via local or long distance service for a phone number. The military postal agents would ordinarily provide up to three (3) locates per call, sometimes more. And, once the unit address is known, one need only call the unit's phone number and ask about the person in question.
Understandably, small installations are not going to have a half a dozen or more clerks manning locator phones where as many or more clerks re-address mail eight to ten hours a day, or more, which is why I noted that anyone desiring this service should consider contacting a large base.
You are correct in that military locator service would not include home phone numbers or addresses, however, it was required to provide an individual's unit address. Then, too, this could have changed like you suggest.0 -
Well done scrumpyjack [^]!
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Try the Red Cross. The military uses that for emergenices, they usually can find anybody. But remember the Military protects their own, good luck 0 -
If a Marine has committed a crime, then shouldn't your first call be to the NCIS? 0
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