Muslims Honor Killing Video on CNN
did anyone see the anderson cooper segment where they play the video of a 17 yr old girl being killed by her family in iraq because she was seen with a man ? i cant believe CNN showed the video, its was utterly horrific. the video shows an entire family and onlookers going to a house and an adult drags a 17 yr ld girl out of the house in a head lock as everyone cheers and spits on her. then, she is beaten and then stoned to death as the savages cheer and spit on her. little kids and eldery cheer and participate in stoning her.
this isnt an isolated incident. this is ISLAM and these are the savages that are killing american troops.
i am now very supportive of american troops leaving iraq so the country can plunge into civil war and kill as many of those savages as possible.
the life of one american soldier isnt worth the ability of the savages to vote.
if you know anyone who is serving in iraq i cant fathom how their loss is worth ANYTHING in that country. i truely hope and pray that islam is a dying religion and they all just leave america.
this isnt an isolated incident. this is ISLAM and these are the savages that are killing american troops.
i am now very supportive of american troops leaving iraq so the country can plunge into civil war and kill as many of those savages as possible.
the life of one american soldier isnt worth the ability of the savages to vote.
if you know anyone who is serving in iraq i cant fathom how their loss is worth ANYTHING in that country. i truely hope and pray that islam is a dying religion and they all just leave america.
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Unfortunately Islam isnt a dieing religion, The way i see it, those people have nothing to live for. they let there lives be run by religion, because they have nothing else. Thats why people here in america dont rebel like they do in other countries. We have an organized police force that people are actually scared of. People here have mortgages, car payments, health insurance, etc... I think thats why people have such a profound interest in people who disobey the law. -dave- 0 -
Oh hey, let's not forget the honor killings over women who were raped because by getting raped, these women have "shamed" their family.
And I'm pretty sure it's more Arabic nonsense than Islamic nonsense, but I couldn't say. Haven't got a lot of love for Arabs, though, that's for sure.0 -
Quote: The life of one American soldier . . . ..
+1. Spot on. In spades. Doubled and redoubled. Ad Infinitum.0 -
Why do you think CNN ran that video? It will further fuel the call to get our troops out of Iraq. I agree that one of our people isn't worth 100 Iraqis, but the problem is if we abandon the fight will that do more damage to our prestige than staying. Stupid Bush. 0 -
OK, so say a nation of people want to honor their creator and live by the creator's rules. Which action should appear, to rational people, as being more associated with the devil than with a perfect, all-powerful creator; Action #1 would be that 17 year old girl PERHAPS being seen with a man. Action #2 is the hateful, evil, monsterous kidnapping, torture and murder of that same girl by her own blood relatives(as described in OJMayo's post).
People who believe in evolution believe we all descended from animals. If true, I believe the rational part of the world evolved from mammals. The type of mammals that show some support, concern and protection for their own kind. Wolves, Porpoises,Dog, etc.
But I believe the Arabs descended from snakes as they often show that they are unable to think very well, are willing to devote their lives living by crazy rules and often seem to turn on their kind like some kind of rabid animal.
I am all for us getting our troops the he!! out of ALL Arab countries. Then I hope those countries go to civil war with each other and kill as many of each other as they can. I then hope they go to war with their neighboring Arab countries.
While/If this happens I will watch it on television and appauld.0 -
... different strokes for different folks ... it's a reality (theirs) ... live with
it or change it. ... and I don't think you'll have much success in that
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Tragic, but a point to be made here.
watch this link...its interesting as hell
http://www.glumbert.com:80/media/gunmarket
the reporter has a point, how the hell are you you going to fight, and beat, a people like this?? The Soviets played by a much, much more brutal set of rules than we do now, and they lost.
As for the honor killings, well it just shows the profound differences between Arab and Western values. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it is.
This is stuff that should have been thought of and addressed before King George the W sent in the troops for His glory. Cultural and religious differences. Now, with Saddam gone, look what W has done. Opened the Iraqi Pandora's box.
W is THE worst President ever, and deserves to be remembered as such[:(!]0 -
Horrific... As I recall we were right there on the same path until we were asked to throw the first stone. Save for divine guidance there go you and I.
That said, I can count the countries one hand that we Americans liberated/poured tons of money into to make them better places to live and/free. Do they respect us or appreciate the sacrifice? No not hardly!!!
So why do we continue to bother with them?
Well there is a few us that do it for selfish reasons, (money, oil, etc.) and there are a few who do it for personal glory,(the Rambo's and the Patton's) them there is the majority that do it for the sword. And that sword ain't the stereo-typical fine edged hunk of forged steel that we usually associate with the word. Their sword is Truth Justice and Right.
And I tell you truly, there is nothing that can withstand the blows of that sword forever providing those who have benefited most from that sword continues to support the hand that thrusts it. That being you and me...
The pulling out of Iraq now could only be an idea conceived by Satan. And the bottom line would end up being that the Iraqi people where far better off with Saddam presence in Iraq than the hand we dealt them!
America gave her word to see it thru to the end and anyone who can stand up and says "Pull Out". Well to me they are totally lacking in "HONOR".
As I see it there are only two possible scenarios here
Tell Iraq that we are sorry...we elected an idiot into the White house and we are sorry we destroyed you country, but that the breaks for we really are a nation without honor and we are freaking out of here. Or, we can say bottom line here, this mess is our fault It was a bad mistake on our part but Honor dictates that we must stick it out...
All too many Americans thought Iraq would be a cakewalk ...the big kid on the block vs. the lil snot nosed Tommy... well Tommy is a little retarded and won't fall down so you are gonna have to keep whopping his skull and convince his sons and grandsons that fighting is pointless Cakewalk...Bwaaahahaha.... Silly silly people it takes 40-60 yrs minimum to change the mindset of an entire country. Don't think so!!! Two terms of an idiot like Bush and 33% of America is wishing he could run again!!!!
Oh there is a shortcut to ending the problems in Iraq... But Bush ain't up to it... Saddam was, but then he is kinda dead now ain't he....0 -
excellent post tobefree 0 -
quote:Originally posted by tobefree
Tell Iraq that we are sorry...we elected an idiot into the White house and we are sorry we destroyed you country, but that the breaks for we really are a nation without honor and we are freaking out of here.
HAHAHAHAHA! That was funny. YES! BY ALL MEANS, if we pulled out of Iraq, WE should be apologizing in shame! HAHAHAHA
We only removed their dictator so they could live without fear of being killed by him or his sons, sacrificed 3,000+ people and have poured 100s of billions into their worthless little country.
Yes, if we left, our heads would have to be hung in shame for not doing enough for them. [:o)]
What more do you want to do for these ungrateful retards!? We haven't lost enough and spent enough to satisfy you yet? The situation doesn't change. You think it will change if we're still there 60 years from now? LOL You're nuts dude.
Yes, I feel very bad for the girl, but what difference does it make? We're not fighting to end that! Not at all!! That's just normal every day law there. If that's all that was happening, we'd consider it a peaceful country.
Islam is a made up religion so men don't have to follow any laws but what their heart desires. That's what they're fighting for. So they can all employ their religion, 'peacefully'. So they can get home to kill their daughters before they get blown up by a suicide bomber first. If we can assure that, then we can go home and call it a day.
Man, what a joke.0 -
The bottom line is, these 'savages' sit on some of the biggest reserves of oil in the world. You may think they and their society is worthless, but as long as they have that oil, they're going to be running the show. 0 -
"Two terms of an idiot like Bush and 33% of America is wishing he could run again!!!!"
I don't think idiot is the best word to describe Bush,kinda gives him an excuse for his actions.Crook,sneak thief,snakeoil salesdick,yea.Just my .020 -
quote:Originally posted by MosinNagantDisciple
The bottom line is, these 'savages' sit on some of the biggest reserves of oil in the world. You may think they and their society is worthless, but as long as they have that oil, they're going to be running the show.
Yes they do. But how is all of that oil benefiting us now after the country has been in U.S. hands for years? Has it really mattered? It's not ours. We're not taking it that I know of.
Before we were in Iraq, gas was cheap. Now it goes up a dime a week for no apparent reason. Now we're at 3.40 a gallon. They could be sitting on a whole nother planet of oil but unless we build some more refineries to meet the growing demands, it doesn't matter how much crude oil they're sitting on. Unless we're willing to take it and build more refineries.0 -
quote:Originally posted by vess1
We only removed their dictator so they could live without fear of being killed by him or his sons, sacrificed 3,000+ people and have poured 100s of billions into their worthless little country.
Yea that is correct we sure did and opened the cage on 6 million Saddam wannabes.... If you think Iraq can suvive long term without our continued presence and support. Then maybe you should run for president yourself. You'd fit right in in with those people that would see 3400 of our kids and 100,000 Iraqis die for nothing...of course our boys would stop dying that is for sure. But the Iraqis...well just tack another zero onto that 100,000 within two years...
And my friend...That is exactly what is going to happen come the spring of 2009 when we sign the death warrant to a million Iraqis-Democracy in Iraq-Honor of America.... You do as you wish but I ain't freaking going to meet my maker with that in my portfolio....0 -
quote:The life of one American soldier
quote:But Bush ain't up to it
Let me say something here and this is only my opinion generated from the time I spent in Iraq as a contractor who went outside the wire with the soldiers and witnessed many attacks on Americans.
First just a brief look back at Vietnam, we lost how many Americans in that war, 50 some thousand? Why did all those Americans die? Look back home here, unpopular war, protests, hippies, politicians caving in to pressure and so on and so on. We won all the battles but lost the war, why is that? Think about it, you want the answer just look at the war today.
Possibly for different meanings the outcome will be the same, different meaning being right now the battle between the politicians and the hatred for Bush. There are millions of people and several politicians who are still furious that Al Gore did not win and that has been fueled even higher with Kerrys loss in the next election, face it there are some serious sore losers out there. Now look at the control the republicans had and to a point still have and think about the democrats that still have thier feelings hurt, don't forget about the party members who ride the fence using political offiliation for votes, these are some very dangerous people.
So how do these people get back in power, how do they make the current administration look bad and justify their existance? Real simple, turn Iraq into a royal mess. So with the current ROE and the way it is written we are not going to win, soldiers will die and Bush will look very bad. To help them along with their selfish agenda little lies are made up, half truths are told, nothing but bad makes it to the media and so on. Thier allies in this political escapade is the media, how many times does the media portray the Iraq war as anything other than bad, never. When a soldier dies the media is all over it and every news story about a dead soldier ends with the total dead. They won't tell you about the contractors dying unless it is a kidnapping and ends in a spectactular death. And while we aqre on the subject of contractors ever notice the only one in the media is Halliburton? If it wasnt for Cheney nobody would have ever noticed or said a word. Do you know that Halliburton and KBR has been involved in several other conficts such as the Persian Gulf war, Balkans, Somalia as well as other military contracts but yet the only time they came under fire was this latest war? Because of Bush and Cheney!
FYI: Halliburton and KBR are now totally seperate companies.
SO I guess in all this rambling what I am trying to get at is no matter what happens we are going to lose, we are going to lose soldiers, we are not allowed to be successful and all of this is because of the hatred for Bush. We will pull out of Iraq as failures and the dems will pat themselves on the back, all of this because of politics. We nare losing good men over there but some people in power want this, they need dead soldiers to fuel this agenda. The more soldiers that die, the more failures we have the more unpopular this war will become, the more unpopular it becomes the worse Bush looks, the worse the republicans look and the sooner we will have a total democrat takeover.
It's all politics people, political chess, and there are million of people in this country soaking it up and loving it, many of whom are right here on this board, call themselves patriots but support our losing this war. I guess it is more political correct to be losers than to actually win, how pathetic.
Like I said earlier, I've witnessed this plan in action, been involved with actions that proves me right and the most common one, failure to fire at the enemy because of fear of prosecution. Pathetic. I'm leaving for Iraq in a few days, almost done here in Houston and I can't wait, I support this war in Iraq fully, I love the military and I miss the soldiers I worked with. Critisize me for being a contractor like some of you did in the past but if I can't get into the Army this is the only way I can get there and believe me I tried getting into the Army long before I even heard of KBR.
Ohh and one more thing,
quote:Two terms of an idiot like Bush and 33% of America is wishing he could run again!!!!
You're damn right I would vote for Bush again! [:D] Because I can see past the end of my nose!0 -
Excellent analysis, Pa.
I really respect you for your Patriotism, and your willingness to return to Iraq, for us.
Keep your head down, your spirit up, and come Home safe.
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and we liberated them from who/what? 0 -
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the best part is the police officers there.....cheering. i wonder what rosie odonell thinks of this video....those damn radical christians, so dangerous to the world. 0 -
this one is a bit longer with more details, you'll love their explanation on what their doing to stop this at the end 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv3eZSnLCkA0 -
i saw the video on cnn and i wont watch it again. i have seen enough. the world would be a much better place if there were no muslims 0 -
It's Bush's fault. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by OJMayo
little kids and eldery cheer and participate in stoning her.
this isnt an isolated incident. this is ISLAM and these are the savages that are killing american troops.
So can we expect at least one more generation of Iraqis that are being taught right now to have no regard for human life?
If Iraqi police would have mowed the crowd down in front of the childred, for doing this, maybe they could be taught that this is bad. But no, they are allowed to help kill her.
So if these ba*tards are willing to kill their own daughter in the street, does ANYBODY think they have any regard for our troops lives?
I would almost support the war if they really wanted to clamp down on this BS and start mowing people down. Armed or unarmed until we gained control of the place. This stuff can't be allowed to happen. If we're going to continue to allow this stuff to happen, then we should get the hell out now.
Maybe those men would have been killed in a civil war by now and the girl would still be alive? In any event, Iraq needs a major loss of life to change anybody's thinking. If we're not going to do this than lets go home.0 -
This is what will happen, democrats win white house, and we leave Iraq. Eight years later the big war hits, then it's a life struggle!
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trfox.....you know much of the time I tend to disagree with many of your ideas BUT this time(and a few other times) I have to say that you are spot on and totally correct!!! X-Ring to you! Beach 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
It's Bush's fault.
Yes, it is.[V]0 -
quote:Originally posted by PBJloaf
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
It's Bush's fault.
Yes, it is.[V]
The difference is I was being sarcastic. Unlike you.
So predictable.0
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