Just recieved this in my mail----
This ought to make your blood boil. And this Marine should receive a commendation for not kicking the living crap out of the guy...seriously.
Marine Sgt Mike McNulty is on activation orders to Iraq (second tour). On December 1st, 2007, Mike went to visit a friend in Chicago before deploying to say goodbye. In order to get to his friend's residence, and keep in mind that Chicago is a myriad of diagonal and one-way streets, the front entrance (right way) to the one-way street was blocked. Mike, being a Marine, overcame and adapted by driving around the block to the other end of the street and backing up all the way to his friend's place.
While saying goodbye, at about 11am, he noticed a man leaning up against his car. Mike left his friend's apartment and caught the man keying his car on multiple sides.
After caught in the process, the man told Mike, "you think you can do whatever you want with Department of Defense license plates and tags". (In Illinois you can purchase veteran, Marine, or medal plates. Mike has Illinois Marine Corps license plates.) During the exchange, he made additional anti-military comments.
Mike called the Chicago police and had the man arrested. A citation against the man was issued for misdemeanor criminal damage to private property.
The police report (and I have copies if needed) states:
Victim related to P/O that as he walked back to his vehicle, he observed the offender leaning up against his vehicle and rubbed/dragged his left arm and hand across the passenger side. As offender walked away from victim's vehicle, victim observed a scratch along the rear trunk and passenger's door area where offender dragged his arm and hand over. Victim and witness stopped offender and confronted him. Victim has military plates and decals on his vehicle and offender made anti war and military comments to victim. Upon P/O's arrival to scene, offender denied scratch victim's vehicle, but did admit to rubbing past it. Victim at this time did not sign complaint, because he is leaving tour for military duty. Offender said they accused him of scratching the car because he is Jewish. Offender's statements/responses to P/O's questions unreasonable.
As it turns out, the man is Chicago lawyer Jay R. Grodner, who owns a law firm in the city and has offices in the suburbs.
After sending the car to the body shop, it was determined there is $2400 in damage, making this a felony. Mike went to court Friday morning to collect the damages against Mr. Grodner and file felony charges. Though the damages are over $300 (the amount which determines felony or misdemeanor) Grodner offered Mike to pay his deductible, $100, and have Mike's insurance pay for it.
The Illinois States Attorneys tried to coerce Mike into accepting the offer. Appalled, Mike said he wanted this to be a felony. The state told Mike that it was not worth pursuing felony damage against Grodner because they don't have the time. In addition, the state prosecutors told him that he would never it 'would be difficult to recover the damages' from Grodner because he is a lawyer.
Instead, the State asked Mike if he would accept probation for Grodner. Mike accepted, probation was offered to Grodner, and Grodner declined the offer, saying within ear shot of Mike, "I'm not going to make it easy on this kid". Mike's next court date is tomorrow, Monday, December 31st, to pursue misdemeanor charges against Grodner.
Mike's leave is over on January 2nd when he reports to Camp Pendleton before heading to Iraq.
Jay Grodner knows this and is going to file for a continuance until Mike is gone and cannot appear in court.
By account of the Illinois State's Attorneys, Grodner is likely to get away with defacing Mike's car with no penalty because, 1) Mike is about to deploy to Iraq and will not be available to appear in court, and 2) Grodner is a lawyer and can get out of this very easily.
So, does anyone have any ideas about how to proceed? All peaceful and rational ideas are welcomed. We are contacting the media about this, too.
Please pass this story on to anyone you know that might be able to help.
Thanks!
Contact info for this POS:
Jay R. Grodner
Law Offices of Jay R. Grodner
Principal Office-Deerfield
625 Deerfield Road #150;Suite 406
Deerfield, IL 60015
Phone: (847) 444-1500
Fax: (847) 444-0663
Downtown Chicago
30 N. LaSalle St. - Suite 1210
Chicago, IL 60602
Phone: (312) 236-1142
Fax: (312) 236-6036
Email: jayrg8@aol.com
Web: http://www.jaygrodner.com
I recommend that we all send a message and make plans to contact everyone we can on this issue.
Illinois Supreme Court, Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission.
Here#146;s it#146;s website: http://www.iardc.org/
Illinois State Bar Association
Chicago Regional Office
20 S. Clark St., Ste. 900
Chicago, IL 60603-1802
(312) 726-8775
(800) 678-4009
The Chicago Bar Association
321 S. Plymouth Court
Chicago, Illinois 60604-3997
Phone: (312) 554-2000
Fax: (312) 554-2054
info@chicagobar.org
Marine Sgt Mike McNulty is on activation orders to Iraq (second tour). On December 1st, 2007, Mike went to visit a friend in Chicago before deploying to say goodbye. In order to get to his friend's residence, and keep in mind that Chicago is a myriad of diagonal and one-way streets, the front entrance (right way) to the one-way street was blocked. Mike, being a Marine, overcame and adapted by driving around the block to the other end of the street and backing up all the way to his friend's place.
While saying goodbye, at about 11am, he noticed a man leaning up against his car. Mike left his friend's apartment and caught the man keying his car on multiple sides.
After caught in the process, the man told Mike, "you think you can do whatever you want with Department of Defense license plates and tags". (In Illinois you can purchase veteran, Marine, or medal plates. Mike has Illinois Marine Corps license plates.) During the exchange, he made additional anti-military comments.
Mike called the Chicago police and had the man arrested. A citation against the man was issued for misdemeanor criminal damage to private property.
The police report (and I have copies if needed) states:
Victim related to P/O that as he walked back to his vehicle, he observed the offender leaning up against his vehicle and rubbed/dragged his left arm and hand across the passenger side. As offender walked away from victim's vehicle, victim observed a scratch along the rear trunk and passenger's door area where offender dragged his arm and hand over. Victim and witness stopped offender and confronted him. Victim has military plates and decals on his vehicle and offender made anti war and military comments to victim. Upon P/O's arrival to scene, offender denied scratch victim's vehicle, but did admit to rubbing past it. Victim at this time did not sign complaint, because he is leaving tour for military duty. Offender said they accused him of scratching the car because he is Jewish. Offender's statements/responses to P/O's questions unreasonable.
As it turns out, the man is Chicago lawyer Jay R. Grodner, who owns a law firm in the city and has offices in the suburbs.
After sending the car to the body shop, it was determined there is $2400 in damage, making this a felony. Mike went to court Friday morning to collect the damages against Mr. Grodner and file felony charges. Though the damages are over $300 (the amount which determines felony or misdemeanor) Grodner offered Mike to pay his deductible, $100, and have Mike's insurance pay for it.
The Illinois States Attorneys tried to coerce Mike into accepting the offer. Appalled, Mike said he wanted this to be a felony. The state told Mike that it was not worth pursuing felony damage against Grodner because they don't have the time. In addition, the state prosecutors told him that he would never it 'would be difficult to recover the damages' from Grodner because he is a lawyer.
Instead, the State asked Mike if he would accept probation for Grodner. Mike accepted, probation was offered to Grodner, and Grodner declined the offer, saying within ear shot of Mike, "I'm not going to make it easy on this kid". Mike's next court date is tomorrow, Monday, December 31st, to pursue misdemeanor charges against Grodner.
Mike's leave is over on January 2nd when he reports to Camp Pendleton before heading to Iraq.
Jay Grodner knows this and is going to file for a continuance until Mike is gone and cannot appear in court.
By account of the Illinois State's Attorneys, Grodner is likely to get away with defacing Mike's car with no penalty because, 1) Mike is about to deploy to Iraq and will not be available to appear in court, and 2) Grodner is a lawyer and can get out of this very easily.
So, does anyone have any ideas about how to proceed? All peaceful and rational ideas are welcomed. We are contacting the media about this, too.
Please pass this story on to anyone you know that might be able to help.
Thanks!
Contact info for this POS:
Jay R. Grodner
Law Offices of Jay R. Grodner
Principal Office-Deerfield
625 Deerfield Road #150;Suite 406
Deerfield, IL 60015
Phone: (847) 444-1500
Fax: (847) 444-0663
Downtown Chicago
30 N. LaSalle St. - Suite 1210
Chicago, IL 60602
Phone: (312) 236-1142
Fax: (312) 236-6036
Email: jayrg8@aol.com
Web: http://www.jaygrodner.com
I recommend that we all send a message and make plans to contact everyone we can on this issue.
Illinois Supreme Court, Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission.
Here#146;s it#146;s website: http://www.iardc.org/
Illinois State Bar Association
Chicago Regional Office
20 S. Clark St., Ste. 900
Chicago, IL 60603-1802
(312) 726-8775
(800) 678-4009
The Chicago Bar Association
321 S. Plymouth Court
Chicago, Illinois 60604-3997
Phone: (312) 554-2000
Fax: (312) 554-2054
info@chicagobar.org
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Peaceful and rational? Doesnt apply to this case. The accused is a lawyer and knows the ins and outs of the system and will play it out to prevent having to pay for anything.
The less peaceful and rational way would be to get a couple of people to find the lawyers nice BMW/Benz/Caddy/whatever AFTER the good Marine is well in country and spray said vehicle with paint stripper...not that I have any first hand knowledge of this kind of retaliation.
Honestly...I think the Marine is screwed unfortunately.0 -
Did you Snope this? 0 -
Although it will ultimately cost Mike some money. He could choose to hire an attorney to "represent" him in his absence. This will at least ensure the idiot does not go unpunished. [:(] 0 -
this is discusting!1..and i agree tottally, get that shysters car big time, and when he gets it fixed , do it again, and keep doing it until his insurance refuses to pay anymore!! revenge is good!!..soldier4s like that must wonder what the hell they are fighting for!! 0 -
I think that is just as bad as stealing unfortuately the azz h**e is probably going to get off.
Need to go back to the day of a good rope and stout tree.0 -
And to think this good Marine is going to fight for the dodo lawyer's freedom to pull crap like this... the lawyer has absolutely no honor or respect for himself or anyone else. 0 -
Send an e mail to Bill O'Rielly and see if he picks it up. 0 -
Assuming everything in the story is accurate. Mike should get the press involved.... Bill O'Reilly would be a good start.
He should pursue all avenues to prosecute this A hole and get full restitution through the court. If the state will not act, then a K Bar knife to this guys tires and car doors might be in order.0 -
Interesting that this would happen in one of the most notoriously anti-gun states. Guns go away, criminals get bold! In Texas, he WOULD have been shot. That FACT would have kept an incident like this from even happening. 0 -
I tried both landline numbers just now, and both were disconnected.
Doug0 -
I think the military should provide a lawyer to represent Mike, since
he can't be there due to military service..0 -
Two separate matters- one civil (damage to car) one criminal(violation of the state laws relating to destruction of property). Let the jerk pay the deductible- the insurance company retains the right to do what they want to in recovering damages- and yes, they have lawyers of their own. Second matter- criminal- is up to the DA to prosecute if IN HIS JUDGEMENT there is a case. Not unheard of for a witness to be required to be absent. Witness can make a deposition- a statement made under oath. Simple solution would be to wait until service member had a 12,000 mile alibi, and for some folks to key the lawyer. Not his car- the lawyer.[:p] 0 -
Ever find a doctor who will testify against another? sort of like lawyers, just PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. Now there are some doctors who became lawyers because they figured out to make the big bucks. Tom 0 -
quote:Originally posted by stubnoid
Although it will ultimately cost Mike some money. He could choose to hire an attorney to "represent" him in his absence. This will at least ensure the idiot does not go unpunished. [:(]
I'm willing to "KICK-IN" some cash, to help the Marine with legal bills.0 -
Nothing on snopes yet, but it's all over the net.
Here's a c&p update from a site called
www.blackfive.net:
Attn: Black Five
I am writing to produce an update of the results of Sgt McNulty's case against Jay R Grodner. I was present in support of Mike and thought you may be interested in an update for this story.
Sgt McNulty was called forward by the State's Attorney in order to discuss the case. I am not sure what transpired behind the closed doors, however, I overheard the State's Attorney expressing her intent to prosecute this guy to the fullest extent. It seems as if BlackFive is the sole catalyst to this story getting out and I am sure Sgt McNulty has probably heard the effect of yours and other blogs from the results of today's proceedings to include several Marines and civilians who showed up in his support.
Jay R Grodner was called before court and in his absence, the Judge issued a warrant for his arrest effective immediately. Sgt McNulty was departing the court when Grodner rolled in to the courtroom more pathetic than anyone I had ever seen. The Judge had questioned him on his tardiness and he explained that traffic had been busy and he 'made a wrong turn'. The Judge chastised him for his tardiness, pathetic excuses, and that he was lucky the warrant had not been executed prior to his arrival.
It seems the blogosphere has put the ball in Sgt McNulty's court. Furthermore, it is also apparent that the State's Attorney's Office has decided to take this matter on a much more serious level. A new and very aggressive State's Attorney seems to have a genuine interest in pursuing this case to the extent that it warrants.
Personally, I think the sgt deserves some kind of medal for not thumping the guy when he found him keying his car.0 -
It would be great if he gets the felony, some jail/probation and loses his job. That would be a decent payback. 0 -
Here is a picture of the POS someone found on a dating web site: 
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quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
Here is a picture of the POS someone found on a dating web site:
A little extra padding[xx(]
I guess that means we will have to beat him harder for him to feel it![}:)]0 -
Glad something is happening 0
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