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Salt Lake Jihad?
Dear Eric,
Salt Lake Jihad?
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com
When Sulejmen Talovic entered the Trolley Square mall in Salt Lake City Monday night with a shotgun, a pistol, and a backpack full of ammunition, he intended to "kill a large number of people," according to Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. Talovic killed five people and wounded four before he himself was killed by an off-duty Ogden police officer who happened to be in the mall.
Why did Talovic do it? No one knows. Talovic's aunt, Ajka Omerovic, told reporters : "We want to know what happened, just like you guys. We have no idea...We know him as a good boy. He liked everybody, so I don't know what happened." Talovic, who was eighteen at the time of the murders, was a Bosnian Muslim who came to the United States with his family in 1998 . Could he have been motivated by jihadist sympathies?
FBI special agent Patrick Kiernan discounted that possibility . "We're working closely with the Salt Lake P.D. and we're obviously aware that that [terrorism] is a potential issue out there," he explained. "But at this point there is nothing that is leading us down this road." And with Talovic dead and apparently having acted alone, unless something he wrote explaining his actions is discovered, it is unlikely that his motive will ever be definitively known.
But was Kiernan really correct that "there is nothing that is leading us down this road"? Unfortunately, he didn't explain how he came to this conclusion. Talovic joins an unfortunately growing list of Muslims who have committed random acts of violence, only for officials to assure us that their actions have nothing to do with terrorism. Maybe none of them do, but the list is full of troubling details:
On January 31, Ismail Yassin Mohamed, 22, stole a car in Minneapolis. He went on a rampage , ramming the stolen car into other cars and then stealing a van and continuing to ram other cars, injuring one person. His father told officials that Mohamed was suffering from mental problems; his mother added he had been depressed and hadn't been taking his medication. During his rampage, Mohamed repeatedly yelled, "Die, die, die, kill, kill, kill," and when asked why he did all this, he replied, "Allah made me do it."
Omeed Aziz Popal, a Muslim from Afghanistan, who killed one person and injured fourteen during a murderous drive through San Francisco city streets in August 2006, during which he targeted people on crosswalks and sidewalks, identified himself as a terrorist after his rampage, according to Rob Roth of San Francisco's KTVU . Later the murders were ascribed to Popal's mental problems, and to stress arising from his impending arranged marriage .
On July 28, 2006, a Muslim named Naveed Afzal Haq forced his way into the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle. Once inside, Haq announced , "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel," and then began shooting, killing one woman and injuring five more. FBI assistant special agent David Gomez stated : "We believe...it's a lone individual acting out his antagonism. There's nothing to indicate that it's terrorism-related. But we're monitoring the entire situation."
In March 2006, a twenty-two-year-old Iranian student named Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar drove an SUV onto the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, deliberately trying to kill people and succeeding in injuring nine. After the incident, he seemed singularly pleased with himself, smiling and waving to crowds after a court appearance on Monday, at which he explained that he was "thankful for the opportunity to spread the will of Allah." Officials here again dismissed the possibility of terrorism, even after Taheri-azar wrote a series of letters to the UNC campus newspaper detailing the Qur'anic justification for warfare against unbelievers, and explaining why he believed his attacks were justified from an Islamic perspective.
None of these were terrorist attacks in the sense that they were planned and executed by al-Qaeda agents. And it is possible that all of them were products of nothing more ideologically significant than a disturbed mental state, although it is at least noteworthy that each attacker explained his actions in terms of Islamic terrorism. As such attacks grow in number, it would behoove authorities at very least to consider the possibility that these attacks were inspired by the jihadist ideology of Islamic supremacism, and to step up pressure on American Muslim advocacy groups to renounce that ideology definitively and begin extensive programs to teach against it in American Islamic schools and mosques.
In October 2006, a pro-jihad internet site published a "Guide for Individual Jihad," explaining to jihadists "how to fight alone." It recommended, among other things, assassination with guns and running people over. Is it possible that Sulejmen Talovic and some of these others were waging this jihad of one? It is indeed, but with law enforcement officials trained only to look for signs of membership in al-Qaeda or other jihad groups, and to discount terrorism as a factor if those signs aren't there, it is a possibility that investigators will continue to overlook.
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To continue and bolster our efforts, we need your continued solidarity, activism and financial support. We are only as strong as our supporters. We thank you for helping us carry on this important work.
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Dear Eric,
Salt Lake Jihad?
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com
When Sulejmen Talovic entered the Trolley Square mall in Salt Lake City Monday night with a shotgun, a pistol, and a backpack full of ammunition, he intended to "kill a large number of people," according to Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. Talovic killed five people and wounded four before he himself was killed by an off-duty Ogden police officer who happened to be in the mall.
Why did Talovic do it? No one knows. Talovic's aunt, Ajka Omerovic, told reporters : "We want to know what happened, just like you guys. We have no idea...We know him as a good boy. He liked everybody, so I don't know what happened." Talovic, who was eighteen at the time of the murders, was a Bosnian Muslim who came to the United States with his family in 1998 . Could he have been motivated by jihadist sympathies?
FBI special agent Patrick Kiernan discounted that possibility . "We're working closely with the Salt Lake P.D. and we're obviously aware that that [terrorism] is a potential issue out there," he explained. "But at this point there is nothing that is leading us down this road." And with Talovic dead and apparently having acted alone, unless something he wrote explaining his actions is discovered, it is unlikely that his motive will ever be definitively known.
But was Kiernan really correct that "there is nothing that is leading us down this road"? Unfortunately, he didn't explain how he came to this conclusion. Talovic joins an unfortunately growing list of Muslims who have committed random acts of violence, only for officials to assure us that their actions have nothing to do with terrorism. Maybe none of them do, but the list is full of troubling details:
On January 31, Ismail Yassin Mohamed, 22, stole a car in Minneapolis. He went on a rampage , ramming the stolen car into other cars and then stealing a van and continuing to ram other cars, injuring one person. His father told officials that Mohamed was suffering from mental problems; his mother added he had been depressed and hadn't been taking his medication. During his rampage, Mohamed repeatedly yelled, "Die, die, die, kill, kill, kill," and when asked why he did all this, he replied, "Allah made me do it."
Omeed Aziz Popal, a Muslim from Afghanistan, who killed one person and injured fourteen during a murderous drive through San Francisco city streets in August 2006, during which he targeted people on crosswalks and sidewalks, identified himself as a terrorist after his rampage, according to Rob Roth of San Francisco's KTVU . Later the murders were ascribed to Popal's mental problems, and to stress arising from his impending arranged marriage .
On July 28, 2006, a Muslim named Naveed Afzal Haq forced his way into the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle. Once inside, Haq announced , "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel," and then began shooting, killing one woman and injuring five more. FBI assistant special agent David Gomez stated : "We believe...it's a lone individual acting out his antagonism. There's nothing to indicate that it's terrorism-related. But we're monitoring the entire situation."
In March 2006, a twenty-two-year-old Iranian student named Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar drove an SUV onto the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, deliberately trying to kill people and succeeding in injuring nine. After the incident, he seemed singularly pleased with himself, smiling and waving to crowds after a court appearance on Monday, at which he explained that he was "thankful for the opportunity to spread the will of Allah." Officials here again dismissed the possibility of terrorism, even after Taheri-azar wrote a series of letters to the UNC campus newspaper detailing the Qur'anic justification for warfare against unbelievers, and explaining why he believed his attacks were justified from an Islamic perspective.
None of these were terrorist attacks in the sense that they were planned and executed by al-Qaeda agents. And it is possible that all of them were products of nothing more ideologically significant than a disturbed mental state, although it is at least noteworthy that each attacker explained his actions in terms of Islamic terrorism. As such attacks grow in number, it would behoove authorities at very least to consider the possibility that these attacks were inspired by the jihadist ideology of Islamic supremacism, and to step up pressure on American Muslim advocacy groups to renounce that ideology definitively and begin extensive programs to teach against it in American Islamic schools and mosques.
In October 2006, a pro-jihad internet site published a "Guide for Individual Jihad," explaining to jihadists "how to fight alone." It recommended, among other things, assassination with guns and running people over. Is it possible that Sulejmen Talovic and some of these others were waging this jihad of one? It is indeed, but with law enforcement officials trained only to look for signs of membership in al-Qaeda or other jihad groups, and to discount terrorism as a factor if those signs aren't there, it is a possibility that investigators will continue to overlook.
Everyday, American Congress for Truth (ACT) is a 501c3 non profit organization on the front lines fighting for you in meeting with politicians, decision makers, speaking on college campuses and planning events to educate and inform the public about the threat of radical Muslim fundamentalists to world peace. We are committed to combating the global upsurge of hate and intolerance.
To continue and bolster our efforts, we need your continued solidarity, activism and financial support. We are only as strong as our supporters. We thank you for helping us carry on this important work.
American Congress for Truth (ACT) , P.O.Box 6884, Virginia Beach, VA 23456
Email: member@americancongressfortruth.com
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Eric,
What happened in SLC this week was that a murderous gunman happened to be Muslim. If this was jihad, or terrorism, don't you think it would have been better orchestrated (and I know you didn't write this)?
The Minneapolis guy seems like he's just deranged from the itty bitty statement in this post. Yeah, he happens to be Muslim, too.
I remember the thing in Seattle and wondering if it was an act of terror. Yeah, sorta, by one guy.
IMO, terrorism is more effective when you have things like John Malvo or 9/11, or even that silly Cartoon Network thing last week.
Individual acts may fly under the terror radar, but I don't think they inflict terror upon the population (with the exception of, say, the people in the SLC mall). Isn't that what we're taught terrorism is supposed to do? Put as much of society as possible in fear?0 -
To continue, we've seen more effective means of terror with the school shootings last year in Colorado and in Pennsylvania (weren't there some others, too?). Those guys weren't Muslim, but they're just as deranged as the guys you've listed.
Don't get me wrong, I believe that radical Islam is constantly plotting against the United States and would love to bring more terror to our shores and heartland.
I just don't think any of this makes it to that level.0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
To continue, we've seen more effective means of terror with the school shootings last year in Colorado and in Pennsylvania (weren't there some others, too?). Those guys weren't Muslim, but they're just as deranged as the guys you've listed.
Don't get me wrong, I believe that radical Islam is constantly plotting against the United States and would love to bring more terror to our shores and heartland.
I just don't think any of this makes it to that level.
These single acts of terrorism strongly ressemble the suicide bombings and attacks inside Israel.0 -
You know what terrorizes me?
Wide open borders, and the way our govt is handling the situation. The people who are supposed to be protecting us (the actual border patrol, police) are being persecuted for doing their jobs, This is an absolute outrage! And how in the hell American people stand for it is beyond me.
Look at what our government is doing to our country, our way of life; That terrorizes me! At one time our nation relied on common sense, hard work, honesty, helping others.. etc Nowadays it's all about suing, stealing, lying, cheating.. Half the snit on TV pushes this lifestyle.
I personally believe that this country is on it's knees. The populace is almost too ignorant to inter operate without the hand of big brother holding on. Not to mention big brother is being pushed along by foreign money, and if you need me to tell you FOREIGN INTEREST.
yes... as sad as it is, most of you know as well as I do our country is lost.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
To continue, we've seen more effective means of terror with the school shootings last year in Colorado and in Pennsylvania (weren't there some others, too?). Those guys weren't Muslim, but they're just as deranged as the guys you've listed.
Don't get me wrong, I believe that radical Islam is constantly plotting against the United States and would love to bring more terror to our shores and heartland.
I just don't think any of this makes it to that level.
These single acts of terrorism strongly ressemble the suicide bombings and attacks inside Israel.
Eric,
But they don't, really. A school shooting? Sure. But it would be more effective if these guys were walking into a mall and blowing themselves up like they do in Israel.
THAT, I guarantee you, would incite fear and terror, and be far more effective.
These terrorists are many things. Dumb isn't one of them.0 -
quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
You know what terrorizes me?
Wide open borders, and the way our govt is handling the situation. The people who are supposed to be protecting us (the actual border patrol, police) are being persecuted for doing their jobs, This is an absolute outrage! And how in the hell American people stand for it is beyond me.
Look at what our government is doing to our country, our way of life; That terrorizes me! At one time our nation relied on common sense, hard work, honesty, helping others.. etc Nowadays it's all about suing, stealing, lying, cheating.. Half the snit on TV pushes this lifestyle.
I personally believe that this country is on it's knees. The populace is almost too ignorant to inter operate without the hand of big brother holding on. Not to mention big brother is being pushed along by foreign money, and if you need me to tell you FOREIGN INTEREST.
yes... as sad as it is, most of you know as well as I do our country is lost.
Dunno if I agree that we're on our knees, but I agree with much of what you say.0 -
the guy was a muslim nut job (no shortage of those) but I don't think he was part of a larger "terror" organization. It may have been his own personal jihad or what have you, but I don't THINK this is a portent of things to come, but I could be wrong. 0 -
"Is it possible that Sulejmen Talovic and some of these others were waging this jihad of one? It is indeed..."
It is indeed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
"Is it possible that Sulejmen Talovic and some of these others were waging this jihad of one? It is indeed..."
It is indeed.
LOL. Now that I think about it, you're absolutely correct.0 -
I thought that was an Amish Jihad we had last year. 0 -
Spanielsells, I am glad you got your mind right. Just keep reading my posts, and I will show you the light. No charge to you for this service. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
Spanielsells, I am glad you got your mind right. Just keep reading my posts, and I will show you the light. No charge to you for this service.
LOL you got it.
This is, of course, if I'm not locked out of the entire thing.0 -
Sudden Jihad Syndrome.... 0 -
Islam is peace!!!
And, we know a tree by the fruit it produces.
Math homework for today. Figure out the above!
Wulfmann0
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