Tennis elbow, from softball?
For the past 2 years, my right(throwing) elbow becomes inflammed and very sore after throwing at full velocites, 10-12 times. I played baseball for 8-9 years at third base and shortstop. I could throw at speeds of 85+ mph. My elbow has never hurt, until just recently. I played shortstop for our softball team for the past few seasons, until the pain became so bad, and my elbow got so weak, that I just couldn't make the plays. I've been playing second base this season, the elbow has been fine so far (most of my throws are close and not at top velocities). We're doing really well, our middle infields ability to turn double plays has been excellent. I turned 4 DP's last night. The elbow is swollen and pretty sore. Normally a 2-3 day rest period with some ice and NASAID's will take care of it. Problem....The area's all day union tourney is tomorrow and our Shortstop won't be there. I'll be playing short for at least 3 games.
I classify the pain as an intense burning from the outside of my forearm, up the outside of my elbow and into the back side of my upper arm.
Is there any kind of treatment that will at least help my elbow feel better? Is this considered a form of Tennis Elbow or the dreaded ulnar collateral ligament tear? The latter requiring Tommy John surgery.
Anyone experience this?
I classify the pain as an intense burning from the outside of my forearm, up the outside of my elbow and into the back side of my upper arm.
Is there any kind of treatment that will at least help my elbow feel better? Is this considered a form of Tennis Elbow or the dreaded ulnar collateral ligament tear? The latter requiring Tommy John surgery.
Anyone experience this?
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cortizone shot into the joint fixed my elbow. the shot didn't hurt at all. 0 -
Maybe we should trade I got softball elbow from tennis~~~ 0 -
Cubs...wife has a bad case of Tennis Elbow from typing so much at work. Doc had her get a brace and prescribed anti-inflammatories. Wally World had the braces. Helped her a lot. You still have mobility in the joint when wearing it, so you could still play. As you described it, doesn't sound like the "Tommy John" injury.
One more reason...Have you considered that you are getting older?[:D][}:)][:p]0 -
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
Cubs...wife has a bad case of Tennis Elbow from typing so much at work. Doc had her get a brace and prescribed anti-inflammatories. Wally World had the braces. Helped her a lot. You still have mobility in the joint when wearing it, so you could still play. As you described it, doesn't sound like the "Tommy John" injury.
One more reason...Have you considered that you are getting older?[:D][}:)][:p]
At 23 and still in my athletic condition, I don't think I should be aching so much. But, I have a bad knee, elbow, back, acid reflux, maybe I just refuse to belive it.
I have been considering sitting out for 8-10 months after this season. We'll see what happens.0 -
+1 on the cortizone or whatever flavor of the day steroid the Dr wants to use - it IS the mirical drug! I had hip pain for years and years and one shot of steroids cleared it up permenently. It works immediately after he removes the needle, you get this warm feeling, then you get flush, then happy! [:)] 0 -
I've got the same problem. It has gotten so bad this year that it is keeping me up at night. I'm thinking about hanging up the cleats while I still have enough arm left to teach my boy to throw. I have had several fiends recommend the cortizone shot. They say the shot and a month of rest will do wonders. Right now I'm mainlining the ibuprofen but I'm sure my liver needs a break. Keep me updated if you get the shot. I'm really considering it. 0 -
I had an extended bout (9 months) with tennis elbow a year and a half ago. Talk about pain and aggravation! Mine was so bad I couldn't hold my new daughter, or even pick a 12 oz drink can up out of the drink holder in the truck. Frustrating to say the least. Got it from a combination of putting in flower beds and mulch and refinishing an old roll-top desk. (sanding, repetitive motion).
Rest, my friend. you have to lay off using it and give it time to heal. I took 750 mg of naprox (alleve) 2 times a day, wore the supports 24-7, iced, rested, and it STILL took months to get it all back to snuff.
The more you stress it, the more damage you do, and the longer it will take to heal. To this day, I still wear the supports whenever I'm playing ball with the kid, running the weed eater or anything else that stresses that part. Don't care to go through that agony again if I can help it!
Hope you heal up, man. Talk to a sports edicine doc and follow his advice.
Elk- I had the same night probs....doc said it was because I slept with my arms over my head..[?]
Sure enough, I started tucking under the covers (drove me NUTS for a couple of days) to keep them down at my sides...relieved stress on the elbow and REALLY seemed to help.0 -
quote:Originally posted by hissinggoose
Elk- I had the same night probs....doc said it was because I slept with my arms over my head..[?]
Sure enough, I started tucking under the covers (drove me NUTS for a couple of days) to keep them down at my sides...relieved stress on the elbow and REALLY seemed to help.
Yup...I sleep with my hands under my pillow so that my elbows are very bent. When I wake up it hurts to move and it is VERY stiff. I have learned to sleep with that arm tucked between my legs. It helps alot but if I get it too straight I have the same problem.0 -
WD-40? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
WD-40?
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soft ball huh?
i actually got it last year from reloading, and draw practice, those rings they sell that look like wrist band work great
for those that never had it, it feels like a tap on the funny bone that doesn't go away0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
soft ball huh?
i actually got it last year from reloading, and draw practice, those rings they sell that look like wrist band work great
for those that never had it, it feels like a tap on the funny bone that doesn't go away
Not really. Mine is a burning, searing pain that shoots up the side of my forearm, through my elbow, and up my tricep.
Tennis Elbow, I guess.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
soft ball huh?
i actually got it last year from reloading, and draw practice, those rings they sell that look like wrist band work great
for those that never had it, it feels like a tap on the funny bone that doesn't go away
Not really. Mine is a burning, searing pain that shoots up the side of my forearm, through my elbow, and up my tricep.
Tennis Elbow, I guess.
have you never hit your funny bone just right, you just described it0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
soft ball huh?
i actually got it last year from reloading, and draw practice, those rings they sell that look like wrist band work great
for those that never had it, it feels like a tap on the funny bone that doesn't go away
Not really. Mine is a burning, searing pain that shoots up the side of my forearm, through my elbow, and up my tricep.
Tennis Elbow, I guess.
have you never hit your funny bone just right, you just described it
I get a hard elecrocuted feeling in my arm when I hit my funny bone.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
soft ball huh?
i actually got it last year from reloading, and draw practice, those rings they sell that look like wrist band work great
for those that never had it, it feels like a tap on the funny bone that doesn't go away
Not really. Mine is a burning, searing pain that shoots up the side of my forearm, through my elbow, and up my tricep.
Tennis Elbow, I guess.
have you never hit your funny bone just right, you just described it
I get a hard elecrocuted feeling in my arm when I hit my funny bone.
don't everyone!!0 -
Yeah, that's why I said that. It's not like the pain that I have now. 0 -
you need to go to the doctor, you may have some ligament damage 0 -
I played HS and small college baseball and baseball after college along with softball. At the height of this I played 80-100 baseball/softball games a year (April to early October).
I had similar problem for many years. It usually got better as the amount of games played lessened towards the ne dof the season.
I never went to the doctor. I once drove home from a tournament with a buddy doing the shifting (5 speed) as I couldn't lift my right arm without pain.
Eventually I got smart. I warmed up my arm thoroughly. Never throwing 100%. Saved the 1005 throws for as needed. Applied ice to shoulder and elbow after every game (unless a tournament and then I waited until the end of the day). I have not had a problem for over 5 years. I also don't play as many games as I was playing when this occurred.0 -
Doesn't sound like you are warming up properly or long enough. You won't be in as good a shape as you were even 4 years ago - sorry - hate to burst your ego bubble[;)]. Realize that you must be in very good shape to throw 100%.
You should get it checked out also. I have seen many arm injuries come at your age because of what i said above. 23 year-olds still think they are 16....0 -
quote:Originally posted by texaswildman
Doesn't sound like you are warming up properly or long enough. You won't be in as good a shape as you were even 4 years ago - sorry - hate to burst your ego bubble[;)]. Realize that you must be in very good shape to throw 100%.
You should get it checked out also. I have seen many arm injuries come at your age because of what i said above. 23 year-olds still think they are 16....
I can still throw as fast as I used to, more accurately now. It's not really an ego problem. It's the fact that I save my arm until needed, but when I need it(turning DP's or backhand grabs way out in the grass), something is wrong when I have to launch across the field.
I do think I has something to do with warm ups. I used to throw for 30 minutes. I could toss 30-40 throws at 100% without pain. Maybe my last warmup wasn't long enough.0 -
I know exactly what you're talking about. When I was young I played a ton of baseball and my dad would typically play on 5 different softball leagues each season.
It sounds like your arm is out of condition. First let the arm heal where it doesn't hurt anymore, then try playing catch before the ball games. Start out just tossing the ball easy and turn up the heat over time. Sometimes when the ball season just started it would take longer playing catch to warm up. My father and I would just play catch almost everyday year around to keep our arms conditioned.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
I played baseball for 8-9 years at third base and shortstop. I could throw at speeds of 85+ mph.
Are you SURE about that? Did you play college ball or JC? I know your a solid guy but I sure have seen alot of guys claim they threw 85, but never when a JUGS was nearby.0 -
Cubs - was only kidding about the ego thing [;)]. Warm-ups and stretching should get longer with age. Stretch, stretch, stretch. then, start off with short tosses, then gradually work your way back into long tosses before you crank it up. It will take a while.
My bet is you don't have the same regime (intensity) as you had earlier in life. You still (ideally) should have the same or better velocity at 23, but your mechanics usually suffer without proper coaching and training. Notice the pros (even the Cubs[:0]) still have coaches and trainers. If the tone and muscle are still there, consistancy of mechanics will help. Shortstops tend to throw more on the run (without a plant) and sidearm - the nature of the position lends itself to "whipping" or slinging the ball around. Not good on the arm.0 -
The pain you describe is the pain that I had went I F-upped my elbow playing football. It was located on the inside of the elbow and was a sharp shooting pain. The sharp shooting pain part is from the ulna nerve being inflamed due to that part of the elbow being swollen. I had ligament damage in this location. I had went to the doctor when it happened, he took ex-rays and said come back in 1 week if it was still a probablem, it was, in fact it was still a problem 15 weeks later when football was over. When baseball started it would swell up like a softball, I then went to the doctor and had 2 mri's, nerve test, ect. they eventually got it fixed after going to some OSU sports specialist. Even 4 years later I don't know if I can throw a baseball, but it doesn't hurt. 0
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