Hoppes Number 9
Is it bad for blued metals?
I was cleaning the 243 and I wipe the barrel down with some #9 on a rag, the rag turned brown.
Man they need to clean these things after shooting them at the factory. I threw some Sweets down the barrel, let it sit for a few minutes. The first patch through it was DARK blue, nasty.
I was cleaning the 243 and I wipe the barrel down with some #9 on a rag, the rag turned brown.
Man they need to clean these things after shooting them at the factory. I threw some Sweets down the barrel, let it sit for a few minutes. The first patch through it was DARK blue, nasty.
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Bluing is rust...kind of. It's not suprising to see you've gotten some off the blued steel. 0 -
Be careful with the Sweets 7.62...don't leave it in the bore too long. It can damage the barrel. 0 -
Ah! You got the .243! Enjoy!
No, I don't think Love Potion #9 is bad for bluing; but, I'd wipe down with a coat of oil afterwords.
And, as for the copper fouling...I'm sure they patch and brush the barrel prior to shipping, but I'd be surprised they cleaned the copper out.
PS: Got nosehairs still? Sweet's always knocks me on my behind...0 -
quote:Originally posted by p64mak
Ah! You got the .243! Enjoy!
No, I don't think Love Potion #9 is bad for bluing; but, I'd wipe down with a coat of oil afterwords.
And, as for the copper fouling...I'm sure they patch and brush the barrel prior to shipping, but I'd be surprised they cleaned the copper out.
PS: Got nosehairs still? Sweet's always knocks me on my behind...
Yeah, but man it's good stuff. When I bought it and looked down the barrel it was dirty. I've never seen a patch come out so blue.
So should I keep scrubbing the metal until the rags stop turning brown/red? I always give the gun a good coat of Gibbs oil when I'm done.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
quote:Originally posted by p64mak
Ah! You got the .243! Enjoy!
No, I don't think Love Potion #9 is bad for bluing; but, I'd wipe down with a coat of oil afterwords.
And, as for the copper fouling...I'm sure they patch and brush the barrel prior to shipping, but I'd be surprised they cleaned the copper out.
PS: Got nosehairs still? Sweet's always knocks me on my behind...
Yeah, but man it's good stuff. When I bought it and looked down the barrel it was dirty. I've never seen a patch come out so blue.
So should I keep scrubbing the metal until the rags stop turning brown/red? I always give the gun a good coat of Gibbs oil when I'm done.
I always do...and I wipe them down with Kroil for storage...it's really good stuff.0 -
quote:So should I keep scrubbing the metal until the rags stop turning brown/red? I always give the gun a good coat of Gibbs oil when I'm done.
Are you talking about the bore or the bluing?
My (rifle) bore cleaning method is 3 wet patches, 10 brush passes, 3 dry patches, and then a light oil patch if I'm going to be putting it up for a while. I'll use Sweets depending on how heavy I've been shooting it, and what rifle it is.
As for exterior cleaning, a quick wipedown with CLP. That's about it.
If you're getting a lot of brown/red stuff off the exterior...huh. That's odd. Especially if it's a new gun. I'd say...I don't know. The only times I've had this happen are on guns I've picked up with some surface rust...
Sorry, wish I could be of more help on this one.0 -
The bluing process actually causes rust, if I'm not mistaken. My gunsmith explained it to me, but I cannot remember exactly what he said... 0 -
Bluing is oxidation (rust).
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Yeah, I knew the blueing was actually rust, but didn't think a brownish tint should come of the barrel of a new gun. I wiped it until they stopped turning brown. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
Bluing is oxidation (rust).
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My understanding of Bluing is that it's "controlled oxidation" based on the theory that something will oxidize(rust) only once.
Of course that's why none of us has ever seen a rusty gun..............0 -
you were wiping off oil residue or rust 0 -
New guns still have cutting oil, preserative oils and the fouling from the proof firing still in the barrel. That is why it is very important to clean the new gun very carefully. I would also recommend MEK or Acetone for cleaning the bolt and trigger group. metal filings can wreck havoc with fine tuned triggers.
The brown you got was part of the preserative oil soaking into the metal surface. Hoppes is fine for cleaning that kind of stuff off.
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