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  • Madman
    Outstanding! Ya can take em outa da jungle....but it doesn't civilize em ever....

    Harley


    "fools die laughing still...."
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  • zipperzap
    Funny enough, Lexington and Concord come to my mind. Strictly speaking to the bafoonish behavior of those armed mobs of African indigenous rebel fighters.

    Although, that will probably be a very offensive analogy to most here, I cannot help to see the ironic roots that OUR military shares with those fighters - not the political/economic ideals that they are fighting for or against, but just how ridiculously inept they look from our 21st. Century perspective - when, in fact, we are just 200 years ahead of them in the most basic military development - a drop in the historical bucket when compared to our esteemed cousins across the sea in Europeland.

    After reading the (absolutely horrified and astonished) accounts of some of those professional English officers, who witnessed thier defeat and harassment back to Boston from Concord, I can now appreciate their amazement and utter disdain for our 'Minutemen. To them, their backwards American Colonial cousins were "... ragtag rebel irregulars" and "... ill equipped ..." and "... using cowardly tactics of hiding behind trees and stone walls ..." while firing upon well disciplined regulars of His Majesty, King George! How completely dastardly and rude we must have appeared to them - regardless of our history of fighting savages with tactics borrowed from those savages. I certainly see those similarities. It wasn't until Valley Forge, under the disciplinary training of General Friedrich von Steuben, that the undisciplined armed farmers and merchants were finally taught 'military discipline' and 'professional European military tactics' - for better or worse ... but at least they looked better and no longer were laughed at by their opponents.

    I'm sorry that I won't be around to see the outcome of Africa in 200 years. I suppose anything is possible - after looking back on our early military history - to see how far we have come - best in the world - not bad.

    That's one of the joys of history, I suppose - reflecting and second guessing as it rolls merrily on, right up and over us as it continues right along without missing a beat.

    ... what say you, English cousin, Mond? Any reflections from the other side of the pond?
    [:D]
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  • fastcarsgofast
    I love the tactical pink pants.[:D]
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  • kimberkid
    I don't know about you all's ...

    For me its easy to laugh at these obviously backward and untrained citizens trying to defend their friends, families, homes and lives.

    Its easy ... while I sit in the warmth and comfort of my own home [:(]
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  • buschmaster
    zz- it's been said that we didn't really beat the british, they just gave up and left.
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  • zipperzap
    That's what some say - but not me - the war was already over (and lost) in New England and the central colonies. Reread the Battle of Yorktown, the French blockade and increasing help that the French were sending. Read about what Parliament had come to think about sinking more men and treasure into the 'American War." Britain, also, stood a good chance of losing Canada if the French actually sent large numbers of troops to America - which they were seriously thinking of doing. Also the English were pretty exhausted in their war with France and defense of India and her other (far more valuable) colonies half a world away.

    You may be right but I don't think so. From what I've read, it was more a case of the British were more happy to concede and not send more troops to support a losing cause - and it was a losing cause by 1783.

    ... just my opinion, of course.
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