Quality of Firearms Last 20 Years
I keep noticing that when someone I know has a firearm that is more than 20 years old it is well built and still shootin'. Most were made in America or some in Europe. Nowadays most firearms seem to be made in China or some 3rd world country and dont function as well. Am I correct in noticing this ? I am talking about mostly low end guns though.
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No, your not correct. The stuff your referring to is below low end. It's surplus. Your comparing 20 year old American to current surplus. Apples and oranges.
Besides, it's past your bed time. Then again, if you saw that rant I just left on another post, it's also past mine.0 -
No, the guns today are made just as well as they were made in the past, in many ways they are better. There will always be fine hand built guns, and there will always be companys that make cheep junk that doesn't work. Currently a hand made double rifle from H&H will start around $100,000, or you can buy a jennings for $80, it's your choice as to the quality of gun you wish to purchase. 0 -
Norinco SKS's are considered to be darned good guns.
Taurus has also come a long way.
Vulcan/Hesse turns out some "low end guns" (and that's being kind) that are renowned for their inability to hurt anyone or anything but the user and they're made in the U.S. of A.
I'd say your attempt at sounding like an old timer gun expert fell short on this one.0 -
your right on that one EMM, my inexpensive Norinco SKS was a far better rifle than my expensive american made Mini 30. I wish I never sold that SKS[V] 0 -
I think that the technology - science and materials - is far better today. I can't speak so much to twenty years ago, but 40 years ago there was much more hand fitting and hand finishing for what you paid for an average firearm, than there is today. Of course, that was because they HAD to use those hand-work methods to make the firearms look and function properly.
My personal preferences seem to lean toward the older arms, with a few exceptions - like the S&W PD series, the small Taurus revolvers, and a few others.
There is something about the history of old firearms designs that is very appealing to me. They help my mind reach back to the pivotal events that formed our world as it is today.
Sentimentality aside, I think the new arms will kill stuff as well as the old arms, and probably punch paper better.
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quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
your right on that one EMM, my inexpensive Norinco SKS was a far better rifle than my expensive american made Mini 30. I wish I never sold that SKS[V]
I shot a Norinco SKS once. I was truly impressed. A better way to phrase the questions would be to ask, "What new technology over the past 20 years, maybe even 30 years, has made a meaningful impact in the world of firearms?"
Most of the innovation I see today comes from HK or possible FN.
Winchester...gone
Remington...remaking cheaper versions of there rifles and shotguns, but no innovation.0 -
quote:"What new technology over the past 20 years, maybe even 30 years, has made a meaningful impact in the world of firearms?"
There is no new technology, the top benchrest shooters are still using a action design from 1898. What has changed for the better would be the materals for manufacture and the machining to do the work. Also there is a far better choice in bullets and powders today than we have ever had in the past, that has only helped performance. Also in todays world you have a greater understanding of the workings of a firearm by the regular shooter than you did 30 years ago, after all who cared if there rifle had a 1 in 8 or 1 in 9 twist back then? All of that combined makes modern guns superior to the guns of the past.0 -
Try to match or duplicate the design/machining/finishing of internal parts/durability of the C96 - either in .30 Mauser or 9mm. One of my favorites - same with the P-09 Lugar.[8D] 0
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