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  • HeavyBarrel
    Yeap, its almost like they have rule and regs. for the sake of having em'
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  • Gotteskrieger
    what would happen if you all got together and said "we ain't doing it" what are they going to do? bite the hand that feeds them?(i'm with you on the civil war[;)])
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  • FrancF
    I know zero about your industry. Seems to me I smell a large fishing boat corporation backing this thing politically. No?
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  • formerlywrong
    What think you of this? My wife & I own our piece of rural property; it's got a little creek running through it, nice & clean, year 'round. The "National Heritage Riverways Act", signed by Bill as an "Executive Order", I believe, placed 7.5 million miles of streambed in the U.S. under federal control.

    This means we must abide by the rules set forth in the Act. No removal of gravel from streambed w/o federal mining permit, only certain types of vehicle may be used to cross, etc.

    The county routinely gets its gravel for our roads from this creek; feds have warned them to stop. Gov't agency now vs. gov't agency.

    When I built my shop building, I decided concrete block was too expensive, but that 'ole creek had a HUGE supply of brick-sized limestone rocks in it...............

    Ask, and I'll try to post a pic, if you like........
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  • spryor
    Yep, they can (and do) regulate everything to death. They've done that here with boats, so i finally just sold my boat and all..sumbeeches!!!
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  • D1
    Formerlywrong,

    Yes we want pictures.
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  • barto
    Rugergunz-
    The dungenes crab fishery here in Oregon already has limited entry (no. of boats in fishery) plus a limit on the no. of pots.
    Each buoy HAS to be branded with a number issued by big bro.
    The handbasket is alive and heading south at a tremendous rate!
    [:(!]barto[:(!]
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  • RUGERGUNZ
    quote:Originally posted by barto
    Rugergunz-
    The dungenes crab fishery here in Oregon already has limited entry (no. of boats in fishery) plus a limit on the no. of pots.
    Each buoy HAS to be branded with a number issued by big bro.
    The handbasket is alive and heading south at a tremendous rate!
    [:(!]barto[:(!]


    First they put a limit on traps here. Set it at 800, it seemed more of a goal to achieve than a limit. Only a few fishermen were tending over 800, but now every fisherman has 800. Then to compensate for that screwup they put a limited entry plan into effect. But it is was too late. There are now more fishermen with more traps than ever before. The lobster fishery is still strong and can survive but can't if the gov't doesn't stop messing around.

    They don't understand that a small rule change, like a measure change can take 15 years to really note the effects, but after 2 years they will change it again because it didn't work overnight.



    We also have to have our license number on all buoys and traps. Also the buoy must have a 600 pound breakaway to save whales. The problem is the whales do not get entangled in Maine waters. But we feel the pain because the tankers that hit the whales have more financial backing.

    Now to save the whales we've never caught they want us to get rid of float rope. Will be impossible to fish downeast without it.

    Sorry, I just get so pissed. Now I'm riled up again.
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  • cbxjeff
    Regulation = Fed income & control. I'm too old to see what is to come but the working man (no matter what color his collar) is being squeezed to a breaking point. The taxes & social programs (give-aways) are out of control. My sons MIGHT survive but at this point I wish I didn't have any grandkids.
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  • Captplaid
    Lobster fishing. That sounds like hard work to say the least. I have a new respect for you.

    I agree with you. Less rules not more regulations!
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  • formerlywrong
    quote:Originally posted by cbxjeff
    Regulation = Fed income & control. I'm too old to see what is to come but the working man (no matter what color his collar) is being squeezed to a breaking point. The taxes & social programs (give-aways) are out of control. My sons MIGHT survive but at this point I wish I didn't have any grandkids.


    Your sentiments make me feel better about not having had any kids, myself. My folks, friends, & relatives always told me over the years that I would regret it, when I get old. Now I'm old. But thinking back, I always felt that if I had a child, I would be doing him/her a disservice because I was selfish and valued the wife's & my freedom to take off for Vegas, do whatever we wanted at the time, etc.

    Now, I see more and more that Americans' apathy is so widespread, especially among young adults I've had contact with (I taught high school Math a year 2002-2003), that I cannot imagine to what extent the socialization efforts controlling American freedoms will eventually lead.
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  • furholler
    This sounds along the lines of the NAIS us little rural farmers are fighting. Did someone say civil war?
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