Brady Center wastes no time celebrating
The Brady Center didn't even wait 12 hours before issuing a statement calling for increased gun control.
quote:"Eight years ago this week, the young people in Littleton, Colorado suffered a horrible attack at Columbine High School, and almost exactly six months ago, five young people were killed at an Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania. Since these killings, we've done nothing as a country to end gun violence in our schools and communities. If anything, we've made it easier to access powerful weapons.
"We have now seen another horrible tragedy that will never be forgotten. It is long overdue for us to take some common-sense actions to prevent tragedies like this from continuing to occur."
Sarah Brady is a fear merchant and a vulture who thrives on tragedy. If no tragedies occur, she screeches daily that one might. And if one does occur, she proudly boasts "I told you so."
It is within our best interests not to disarm our children and ourselves, but to see to it that all of us are educated in the responsible use of firearms. Even supposing that shootings have become more common, it is not due to the supposedly increased availability of firearms, but rather due to the increased population density of probable victims.
Americans today are not just gun-shy, they're gun-averse. And fearing guns, they hope beyond hope that by simply ignoring their very existence that guns will go away.
And that makes them victims.
Just as we see fit to educate our children about sex and driving, we should be educating our children about firearms and firearms safety. All are a fact of life, but only the first two are taught in schools. Why is that? We do not say American students are slipping in math - let us abolish math so there will be nothing to slip on. We do not "solve" a low literacy rate by banning reading and writing. So why is it that guns are the only issue we choose to deal with through abolishment and not education?
Ignorance was never a defense and it never will be.
quote:"Eight years ago this week, the young people in Littleton, Colorado suffered a horrible attack at Columbine High School, and almost exactly six months ago, five young people were killed at an Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania. Since these killings, we've done nothing as a country to end gun violence in our schools and communities. If anything, we've made it easier to access powerful weapons.
"We have now seen another horrible tragedy that will never be forgotten. It is long overdue for us to take some common-sense actions to prevent tragedies like this from continuing to occur."
Sarah Brady is a fear merchant and a vulture who thrives on tragedy. If no tragedies occur, she screeches daily that one might. And if one does occur, she proudly boasts "I told you so."
It is within our best interests not to disarm our children and ourselves, but to see to it that all of us are educated in the responsible use of firearms. Even supposing that shootings have become more common, it is not due to the supposedly increased availability of firearms, but rather due to the increased population density of probable victims.
Americans today are not just gun-shy, they're gun-averse. And fearing guns, they hope beyond hope that by simply ignoring their very existence that guns will go away.
And that makes them victims.
Just as we see fit to educate our children about sex and driving, we should be educating our children about firearms and firearms safety. All are a fact of life, but only the first two are taught in schools. Why is that? We do not say American students are slipping in math - let us abolish math so there will be nothing to slip on. We do not "solve" a low literacy rate by banning reading and writing. So why is it that guns are the only issue we choose to deal with through abolishment and not education?
Ignorance was never a defense and it never will be.
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"We have now seen another horrible tragedy that will never be forgotten. It is long overdue for us to take some common-sense actions to prevent tragedies like this from continuing to occur."
Exactly, except a common sense action wouldn't have anything to do with strict gun control.0 -
When will some people realize that you can load a gun, jack a round in the chamber, leave the safety off (if it has one) and lay it on a table and it will stay EXACTLY that way until an external force (person)bothers it. As a former LEO, I saw more people injured by cars than guns. Brady and Pelosi are the kind of B%^$hes that have tongues that cut to the bone and cause more harm and injury than most peoples guns. Ever wonder if Jim Brady wished he would have perished that day than just having to sit in that chair listening to her, Sarah, and not being able to get a word in edgewise?
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In either Columbine or Blacksberg, just one student or faculty member with a CCW and a piece would have saved a lot of lives, but these are "gun free zones" - talk about advertising a safe place to cause mayhem!
My first thought was "Is the shooter a jihadist?" Our schools are sitting ducks for the terrorists.0 -
The actions of the anti's are what leads to events of today, unarmed law abiding citizens becoming fair game for persons who are intent on doing harm. This might not have been completely stopped, but the total body count would have been far less. 0 -
Question: Where would you go to kill people if you were so inclined to do so ?
Answer: A place where you knew that no one there was allowed to protect themselves. It's just that simple.0 -
Any intelligent person could kill as many as 33 students without the benefit of a gun. A freaker decides to go on a rage.....he's going to achieve his goals. Give students, TA's and Faculty CCW rights and we'll see mass-slayings by other means. We'll see some foiled attempted mass slayings, but the smart ones will come up with other ways to do the deed. As a bad rap band once said: "there are six million ways to die: choose one."
This is a tragic day for a lot of family and friends of those who died in VA.
Still, not being personally connected to any of those folks (and I'm not trying to be crass), I have to ask a few questions:
-What does this do to the political landscape, with respect to gun control laws?
-The shooter used (as I understand it) one .22 and one 9mm pistol, at least one of which had high-cap magazines.
-Is it a good thing that no "EBR's" were used (except by the police)?
-Does this just invigorate the call for a ban on all high-cap mags?
-How will this event be interpreted in the popular media and more importantly, by our lawmakers?
-Will we conclude that AWB-style laws are essentially useless, or
-Will we conclude that AWB-style laws don't go far enough, and that we need to go to something like an Australian-style "seize them all" mentality?
I feel a bit like a butt-head considering these things in the wake of what has to be a terrible tragedy for the families of those who died today, but I can't help it.0 -
Her we go again,[V][V] what does AWB style laws mean?????????? 0 -
"Does this just invigorate the call for a ban on all high-cap mags?"
The only bill in the house right now is the all encompassing H.R.1022. There aren't lesser ones for them to consider so they only ban high cap mags.
It will either change peoples minds for better or worse and that bill will be passed or not. High cap mags are included in the bill, so I'd say this event is very damaging and might push towards getting the whole thing passed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by vess1
"Does this just invigorate the call for a ban on all high-cap mags?"
The only bill in the house right now is the all encompassing H.R.1022. There aren't lesser ones for them to consider so they only ban high cap mags.
It will either change peoples minds for better or worse and that bill will be passed or not. High cap mags are included in the bill, so I'd say this event is very damaging and might push towards getting the whole thing passed.
The only bill in the house "RIGHT NOW...."
The world is not a static place. HR 1022 may prove to be the worst thing we're up against, or it may seem like cheesecake by the time they get through the next round of legislation.
If we could limit the debate to HR 1022 then us shooters would probably have a better shot at it than we do now. But we can't limit debate to HR1022, and we should not be allowed to limit debate to HR1022 because discussion beyond HR1022 is constitutionally protected.
Now if we could only get the opposition to understand that the passage of HR1022 or anything resembling it is unconstitutional with respect to the 2nd amendment, then we'd be getting somewhere.
The legislative landscape changes. I'm betting that today's atrocity has an impact on the legislative landscape. It's no longer enough to figure out what's wrong with HR 1022. We now have to figure out what's wrong with the next jack-azzed bill that gets floated.0 -
scarah braidy quote:
quote:Eight years ago this week, the young yada yada people in Littleton, blabber Colorado suffered a snork horrible attack at Columbine High School, gwunch and almost exactly six months ago, five young people were killed at an Amish blorfle schoolhouse in Pennsylvania. Since these killings, we've done nothing as a country to end gun violence in our smunch schools and communities. If anything, we've made it easier to access powerful weapons.
"We have now seen another gurble horrible tragedy that will never be forgotten. It is long overdue for us to take some common-sense actions to prevent sneerk tragedies like this from continuing to occur.this is so stupid. with all due respect, so what. so what if it keeps happening? every eight years or so?? all the people whose lives were saved by guns in the meantime, what about them? what about the crackheads that shoot each other, where's the sobbing about that? that happens much more frequently, doesn't it? more people are killed every year from (pick one) medical mistakes, traffic accidents, domestic squabbles, nosebleeds, herpes, falling out of a window, airplane wrecks, blahblah blah. more lives would be saved if you pick any one of those and get on it! focusing on any one of those would be more productive than niggling about a certain type of crime committed by a fruitcake every decade or so. that dumb b... needs to shut up.0 -
She's just exploiting the situation to further her own agenda. Sad, almost sickening really. Couldn't even let a day pass.
I tell people all the time that with 300 million people in this country, I'm really surprised we don't see more crimes like this more often. It's amazingly peaceful for a country this large if you really think about it.0 -
I think my signature sums it up. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast
In either Columbine or Blacksberg, just one student or faculty member with a CCW and a piece would have saved a lot of lives, but these are "gun free zones" - talk about advertising a safe place to cause mayhem!
My first thought was "Is the shooter a jihadist?" Our schools are sitting ducks for the terrorists.
hell, even the campus cops didn't have any guns!
Anti-gun PC bullcrap has cost the lives of many innocent and talented young people [:(!]0 -
As increasing gun control is their mission statement and sole purpose, the Brady's overtures on the heels of this tragedy come as absolutely no surprise to me. Sort of like being taken aback that Paris Hilton was spotted drunk and without panties in a Hollywood night club on a Friday night. 0 -
Some great points made here. Good enough to print and read remember, the next time a "friend" or family member suggests more gun control. 0 -
[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]It's all about the "money"! The beech gets $7.500 per speaking appearance and if she brings along her pet monkey they get $15,000.
I don't know what they skim from Gun control inc.[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]0 -
Outlawing all guns would stop crimal shootings to the same degree that outlawing drugs has stopped all criminal drug use. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by sav99
Outlawing all guns would stop crimal shootings to the same degree that outlawing drugs has stopped all criminal drug use.
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quote:Originally posted by Slow_Hand
As increasing gun control is their mission statement and sole purpose, the Brady's overtures on the heels of this tragedy come as absolutely no surprise to me. Sort of like being taken aback that Paris Hilton was spotted drunk and without panties in a Hollywood night club on a Friday night.
As a public service to us all, can you please put greater space between the words "Sarah Brady" and "...drunk and without panties..."
I re-read all of your post and still couldn't get the awful images out of my head.
Thank you in advance.0 -
i have heard on the news that some old professor at the college held the door closed so that his students could jump out the window to
saftey. if a person with this much courage and presnts of mind had
a gun he might have been able to save some lives, and probably
would have.0 -
quote:Originally posted by REX6666
i have heard on the news that some old professor at the college held the door closed so that his students could jump out the window to
saftey. if a person with this much courage and presnts of mind had
a gun he might have been able to save some lives, and probably
would have.
He was a 76 year old Jewish professor from Tel Aviv. In my opinion a real hero in that he laid down his life for his students.0 -
ElMuertoMonkey: You said it perfectly and now it is on all of us to
counter the anti-Second Amendment crowd. Good job.
As I have said before, I am a high school teacher. We have a large sprawling campus with two buildings separated by a fair distance. The school policy is that we go into instant lockdown when something happens. Even if a killer is shooting people down the hill in building B, we are supposed to stay locked in the room up the hill in building A waiting to be saved or shot. My kids asked me what would I do if they started climbing out of the windows (we are on the ground floor) I said, "I can't stop you and I'm not going to." They asked me what I would do. I said, "I'd have to stay in the room, but I'd be holding a chair to bash the sob in the chops the first chance I get." Not school policy? No, but dying when you can defend yourself is my policy. I could not stand idly by and let someone shoot the kids. No way.0 -
quote:Originally posted by sav99
Outlawing all guns would stop crimal shootings to the same degree that outlawing drugs has stopped all criminal drug use.
You are describing a direct proportion where, in fact, I believe an inverse proportion is in order. Case in point is the rise of violent crime in DC and NYC, grossly disproportionate in either case to the elimination of legitimate firearms there. An unethical but effective experiment would be to disarm several blocks in a given city and record the incidence of violent crime in these areas. I have no doubt that it would grossly excede violent crime stats in neighboring areas.
Who is to say that this Korean kid didn't have some agenda that would be furthered by this massacre? One thought that comes to mind is affiliation with muslim terrosists. Certainly they would have freer reign here if firearms were banned completely. 33 dead and 28 wounded makes for unprecedented numbers in this sort of tragedy. Prior to today the highest toll was, I believe, 16 in Texas over 30 years ago.
I seriously wonder if the Brady bunch would go to such means to achieve their ends, as they seem to be ever vigilant in quest for more statistics.0 -
Just as we see fit to educate our children about sex and driving, we should be educating our children about firearms and firearms safety. All are a fact of life, but only the first two are taught in schools. Why is that? We do not say American students are slipping in math - let us abolish math so there will be nothing to slip on. We do not "solve" a low literacy rate by banning reading and writing. So why is it that guns are the only issue we choose to deal with through abolishment and not education?
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I was just pointing out that illegal drug use has'nt stopped due to its illegallity. You are right in that gun crime and violence would only increase. 0 -
They spent all last week trampling the First Amendment, now it's the Second's turn. 0 -
I wasn't trying to be argumentative, just pointing out that drug laws have deterred some and encouraged others. The resulting increase in profit has, no doubt, spurred many into dealing but not in as exponential a way as disarming citizens and thereby making them vulnerable would create more innocent victims.
The Chinese and others may criticize us for our 2nd Amendment. When our government accepts such criticism it also needs to adopt their laws and methods of prevention, meaning summary execution.
Exactly why would the Chinese criticize our gun laws? Is it because of their exemplary support of human rights issues or because they want to make it easier to invade the US?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Blckhrn
I wasn't trying to be argumentative, just pointing out that drug laws have deterred some and encouraged others. The resulting increase in profit has, no doubt, spurred many into dealing but not in as exponential a way as disarming citizens and thereby making them vulnerable would create more innocent victims.
I knew what ya ment. [8D] I agree with you.0 -
No hard feelings then? LOL 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Blckhrn
No hard feelings then? LOL
Nope, not none. [:D]0
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