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Cerebus Capital Buys D.P.M.S.

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  • Gotteskrieger
    somebody help me out. is this good or bad?
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  • Plain ole bubba
    maybe they are gonna buy all the firearm companies.i bet they could buy lorcin real cheap heheh[:D]
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  • Donovan Kirkpatrick
    I heard yesterday they may buy Colt. Not sure which one.
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  • spanielsells
    This the same Cerebus that is buying Chrysler?
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  • ObiWan
    This is BAD...very very very BAD.


    Imagine Cerebus Capital being owned by Rosie O'donnell.

    Getting ownership of a majority of firearms manufacturers...shutting them down....worse....pushing to ban firearm ownership as the "SPOKESMEN" for the industry.
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  • nononsense
    Accucast,

    Already posted:

    http://forums.forthehunt.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=277647

    Best.
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  • ObiWan
    Remington is making an AR15??????????


    I told you.....they are evilizing the firearm industry in their plan to remove the rights of Americans to bear arms.

    Smart mothers they are.



    Remington?????? AR15.....WHAT?????
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  • Cutiegirlracing
    I think this is good. I'm didn't know that they owned Bushmaster, Remington and Cobb. But each are good companies that seem to really care about their customers. A good example is Remnington's AR. I think they are trying to change the image of the AR as an "assult" rifle with this one. They may or may not help it's image, but at least they are trying.
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  • john in jax
    Supposed to be BAD. They are an investment company that buys up businesses, does whatever to make them look more profitable and then sells them off.

    Look for them to merge DPMS, Bushmaster and Remington all into one company, close down all redundant manufacturing capabilities and then sell the new bigger but leaner company off to some Chinese or Japanese holding group

    Americans would be loosing choices and manufacturing (a.k.a. JOBS)
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  • Sig220_Ruger77
    quote:Supposed to be BAD. They are an investment company that buys up businesses, does whatever to make them look more profitable and then sells them off.

    Look for them to merge DPMS, Bushmaster and Remington all into one company, close down all redundant manufacturing capabilities and then sell the new bigger but leaner company off to some Chinese or Japanese holding group

    Americans would be loosing choices and manufacturing (a.k.a. JOBS)

    I think you hit the nail on the head with that one. Very unfortunate if that is how it turns out.[V]

    Jon
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  • Odawgp
    capitalism at its finest.

    I did not to say there is any better way.

    It's all about money, they don't give a rats ass about any of us. as long as the majority sharholders and big wigs have million and billions in there pockets they could care less where the company goes or weather it stays in buisness. They will sell it to china or japan and make another million. they will retire fat happy and wise.

    Some say it is a necessary evil. that without these investors the economy will tank. I think it will tank just as hard once they have finished selling our economy to foriegn lands.

    my .02
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    Oh well, what did you expect out of free market economics and capitalism? Fairness and diversity? What are you? A LIBERAL?!!?

    It's funny how monopolies are a good thing (like Halliburton was so awesome back in the day) until it threatens something we care about.

    Let this be a lesson in long-term thinking, folks - if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander, so don't hurrah something unless you're willing to take some of it yourself.
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  • AccuCast
    From what I have read further on the Cerebus acquisition of DPMS I think they just wanted the AR-10 Platform capabilities of DPMS. Cobb sold to them because he did not have enough production capacity to build the .338 Lapua rifles for Government contracts. In a recent American Firearms Industry magazine there was discussion of Cerebus wanting to purchase a major handgun company, likely could be Colt or Taurus/Rossi in Brazil. Taurus factory also has capacity to build automobile parts since Cerebus owns Chrysler and Bluebird School Bus Company.

    Cerebus partial list of holdings on webpage below.

    http://www.cerberuscapital.com/port_comp_pro.html

    If you check around a little it seems Large Multi-National Companies are buying up most of the Firearms, security, military, and L.E. equipment manufacturers. See Armor Holdings, now owned by BAE Systems Group, list of companies including Safariland, Bianchi, Hyatts, kleenbore, B-Square, etc., etc.

    http://www.armorholdings.com/ProductsGroup/Brands/default.aspx
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  • AHansen
    I just wonder what this will do for the quality of firearm made? Will it improve or will it slack off?
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  • ladams
    Very bad.... this company buys companies that are performing poorly, cheapens the product up as much as possible, then raises prices. Cerebus cares about nothing but bottom line profit.... they could care less about quality and such, because as soon as the company becomes profitable they will sell them off and the new buyer is stuck with a bunch of warranty problems and inferior products. That is why I no longer buy Remingtons, they just are not the same quality the were a few years ago.
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  • AHansen
    That just really pisses me off. I almost have enough lunch money saved to get one and this happeneds
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  • bobski
    hmmm, time to send a resume to cerebus. [8D][:p]
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  • Captplaid
    I see potential positives.
    Reduced costs
    More economical selling prices.
    Innovation
    Synergy
    Perhaps an AMERICAN powerhouse comparable to FN.

    This strategy is opposite the traditional Capital Investment model. Instead of buying one large conglomerate and cutting it to pieces, Cerebus is assembling a one good sized compnay from several small ones. Remington couldn't make it as a rifle/shotgun maker. Neither could Winchester. Remington should have had the foresight to get into the AR business long ago to attract military sales and also the public market. By the time they realized this, it was too late. The market was established.

    Look at S&W. They entered the market late, and they're making little impact. The best option for Remington to continue growth was to merge with an AR manufacturer. Plus by merging with multiple manufacturers , they are increasing capacity. Increased manufacturing capacity also means lower costs.

    Perhaps Cerebus is looking to take advantage of lower cost per unit, cut prices and increase market share. It could work.


    Look what Cerebus has done in the past. They buy companies, then take them public again. I think talk of selling out manufacturing to Japan or China is foolish. If they were going to do that, why not buy Norinco or some Turkish manufacturer? Plus China is not looking to buy American gun manufactures. China just copies our best. Cerebus plans to someday take this company public again.

    To put it another way, small time AR manufacturers are a dime a dozen.
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  • The Ginral
    I've been uneasy about them from the beginning when they started buying up companies....tho I'm not really superstitious.

    The proper spelling is CERBERUS and in Greek etc. mythology Cerberus was the three headed hound guarding the gates of Hell.

    It just sounds so damn sinister, reminds me of Damien and the Omen movies.
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  • Captplaid
    You don't buy multiple companies to close them down. You buy multiple companies to create one big one.

    I hope the guy at Remington that thought the pump rifle that takes AR magazines gets downsized. Dumb idea.
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  • bpost
    Cool...
    CEREBUS owns Chrysler, Remington, Tower Automotive, DPMS and other cool companies.

    We will be able to get a diesel pickup truck with an AR-15 and a new Mdl. 700 in the same package deal!
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  • BT3
    Yea yea yea Monkey !
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