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Anti deadly force politician shoots thief

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Texas State Lawmaker Opposing Deadly Force Bill Shoots Would-Be Thief

Monday , July 09, 2007

AP


HOUSTON -
A state lawmaker who opposed a bill giving Texans stronger right to defend themselves with deadly force pulled a gun and shot a man he says was trying to steal copper wiring from a construction site, police said Monday.

Rep. Borris Miles told police he was fixing a leak on the second floor of the Houston house he's building Sunday night when he heard a noise downstairs and saw two men trying to steal the copper. After Miles confronted the pair, one of the men threw a pocketknife at him, Houston Police spokesman Victor Senties.

Miles, a former law enforcement officer, shot the man in the left leg, police said. The wounded suspect was being treated at a Houston hospital. Police were trying to identify the other suspect.

Charges of aggravated robbery are pending against the wounded suspect, Senties said.

Police said Miles, who is in his freshman term, is licensed to carry a concealed weapon. No charges have been filed against Miles, Senties said.

Miles, a Democrat, voted against a bill that gives Texans stronger legal right to defend themselves with deadly force in their homes, vehicles, and workplaces. The so-called "castle doctrine," passed by the Legislature this year, states that a person has no duty to retreat from an intruder before using deadly force. The law goes into effect Sept. 1.
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  • Colonel Plink
    So when you look up the term "irony" on Wikipedia, this oughtta show up.
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  • joker5656
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    So when you look up the term "irony" on Wikipedia, this oughtta show up.




    you know you can edit that on WIKIPEDIA right? so yes it can and it should
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  • Doc
    Some police officers don't believe in self-defense for non-cops. That sort of officer will always consider himself "special" even after leaving the job. He likely sees no conflict in his actions as a lawmaker and as a property owner. He will still think you and I should not shoot crooks but he can.
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  • spanielsells
    He took someone's life over copper wire?

    So, a knife was thrown at him. So what? He is against ordinary citizens using deadly force to protect their lives. He should live by his rules and he should not have shot the copper thief.
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  • Fatstrat
    So whats new. How many anti gun people have we learned have guns?
    The whole point of anti gun legislation is so that they have guns and you don't ya know.
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  • Kimbercolt
    its the old democrap double standards again.
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  • joker5656
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He took someone's life over copper wire?

    So, a knife was thrown at him. So what? He is against ordinary citizens using deadly force to protect their lives. He should live by his rules and he should not have shot the copper thief.


    actually you need to read the article, he shot the thief in the leg
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by joker5656
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He took someone's life over copper wire?

    So, a knife was thrown at him. So what? He is against ordinary citizens using deadly force to protect their lives. He should live by his rules and he should not have shot the copper thief.


    actually you need to read the article, he shot the thief in the leg
    Doesn't matter. Not one iota.

    Plus, he's an idiot on top of being a hypocrite. If you shoot and you're not a LEO, you shoot to kill, not to wound.
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  • David Nunn
    quote:If you shoot and you're not a LEO, you shoot to kill, not to wound.

    LEO, CCW, no matter who you are, if you find yourself in a deadly force encounter, you do not shoot to wound, nor do you shoot to kill. You shoot to stop the threat. Once the threat is neutralized, usually because the bad guy is dead or has run away, you stop shooting.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    quote:If you shoot and you're not a LEO, you shoot to kill, not to wound.

    LEO, CCW, no matter who you are, if you find yourself in a deadly force encounter, you do not shoot to wound, nor do you shoot to kill. You shoot to stop the threat. Once the threat is neutralized, usually because the bad guy is dead or has run away, you stop shooting.
    David, I guess that depends on how you interpret the situation. You're a trained LEO, I'm not. If the day ever comes when I'm put in the situation, I'm telling you that I will shoot to kill (or at least I plan on it). Wounded, armed criminals certainly will have that desire. If I'm in a gunfight, someone is dying, and I don't want it to be me.

    Of course, I would never shoot someone in the back, if they leave, the threat has ended, and they walk away.
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  • rhythm_guy
    quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
    So when you look up the term "irony" on Wikipedia, this oughtta show up.



    +1, but replace "irony" with "hypocrit."
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  • 11BravoCrunchie
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He took someone's life over copper wire?

    So, a knife was thrown at him. So what? He is against ordinary citizens using deadly force to protect their lives. He should live by his rules and he should not have shot the copper thief.



    Read a little more carefully. He shot the guy in the leg, and the guy is now recovering at a local hospital before being charged.

    The other guy got away.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He took someone's life over copper wire?

    So, a knife was thrown at him. So what? He is against ordinary citizens using deadly force to protect their lives. He should live by his rules and he should not have shot the copper thief.



    Read a little more carefully. He shot the guy in the leg, and the guy is now recovering at a local hospital before being charged.

    The other guy got away.
    Thanks Zulu.

    Now, if anyone else would like to point out that mistake yet again, please, by all means, have at it. [;)]
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  • whompuss
    Hell, I made the same mistake reading the post, just didn't post a reply. GA now has the Castle doctrine and in the given circumstance it would be legal to shoot the guy.

    Given that I can't imagine shooting an unarmed man (he threw his knife away) over a roll of copper wire, even in the leg. A local guy was shot in the leg with a 22 mag and he was DOA, as the round hit an artery.
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  • BT3
    Go figure. I can defend myself but I don't want you to be able to defend yourself. That's just the kinda thing that gets good folks killed. Ex cops should be treated the same as anyone else ! IMHO
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  • Txs
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    He took someone's life over copper wire?

    So, a knife was thrown at him. So what? He is against ordinary citizens using deadly force to protect their lives. He should live by his rules and he should not have shot the copper thief.



    Read a little more carefully. He shot the guy in the leg, and the guy is now recovering at a local hospital before being charged.

    The other guy got away.
    Thanks Zulu.

    Now, if anyone else would like to point out that mistake yet again, please, by all means, have at it. [;)]
    Shooting someone is using deadly force no matter what the outcome.
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  • Rack Ops
    I can't wait till his office releases a statement on the incident....
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