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IRAQ: What The Media Doesn't Report

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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Being embedded means seeing things through a narrow, and necessarily biased, angle.The military wanted "embedded reporters," they got 'em, and now it's not what they want?

    One of these days they'll get it right.
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  • joeaf1911a1
    Question on this quote.: " The military wanted "embedded reporters," they got 'em, and now it's not what they want?"
    Did the Military want "embedded reporters" or were they forced to accept them by the media and polititians?
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    It was the military's idea.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:The fact that more than 90 percent of the violence that dominates reporting from Iraq takes place in five neighborhoods in Baghdad, plus one of the 18 Iraqi provinces, is neither here nor there. The perception is that all of Iraq is lost. If the violence afflicts such a small portion of Iraq, then why are so many American troops needed? Why does it seem so impossible for the American military and the Iraqi government to pacify a mere five neighborhoods and one province? Are our leaders saying that the fate of Iraq rests upon five neighborhoods in Baghdad?
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  • mond
    If they dont want us , lets get the h311 out!

    my intrest rates,wages & economy ..and a few other 'things',could do with a big boost!!

    [;)]
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  • T1jetmech
    quote:Originally posted by mond
    If they dont want us , lets get the h311 out!

    my intrest rates,wages & economy ..and a few other 'things',could do with a big boost!!

    [;)]


    where do you think your rates, wages and economy will be if we get out of Iraq to soon and allow it to become an unchecked hot bed of terrorist training camps and a hub for launching attacks on UK and US soil? How did your economy react when the trains and buses were hit? I know my rates hit the floor when 9-11 hit. I don't like the way things have gone in Iraq...but it is the things that I have been told about...not all the truth. The very situation that got us involved in Iraq, lack of all the information, is now driving the effort to get us out of Iraq. There is no greater crime than to act with out all the facts and we seem to be doing that over and over again!
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  • TexasVet
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:The fact that more than 90 percent of the violence that dominates reporting from Iraq takes place in five neighborhoods in Baghdad, plus one of the 18 Iraqi provinces, is neither here nor there. The perception is that all of Iraq is lost. If the violence afflicts such a small portion of Iraq, then why are so many American troops needed? Why does it seem so impossible for the American military and the Iraqi government to pacify a mere five neighborhoods and one province? Are our leaders saying that the fate of Iraq rests upon five neighborhoods in Baghdad?


    The reporter was the one that stated that number, not a "leader" and if it were true it would depend on how many people are in the area. I've heard that Al Sadr has 40,000 in his militia -- no telling how many others are there that are Al Queda.

    I'd say that the areas the reporter described are pretty good bomb targets.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    TexasVet,

    Bombs rarely hit their intended target... and when they don't, they just p!$$ off all the wrong people, namely, the ones we're supposedly there to help.

    Now those areas described might make pretty good targets for the Marines and the various special forces we have at our disposal, however.[;)][:D]
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  • joeaf1911a1
    Quote: "It was the military's idea.". Please show me where and when the actual Military in Iraq requested "Imbedded reporters". One thing
    fighting troops dont need is "imbedded reporters" to protect and get in their way of fighting . Sometime you should try fighting with a reporter looking over your back to see if you are doing the proper things. You have fought in a war, havent you?? If not, shut the hell up till you do. It may just change your attitude to our troops. No trooper needs someone looking and and screaming "foul" like at a basketball game. It aint a game, BOY. It is kill or be killed. And many prefer to kill and not be killed. I for one remember my first
    speech when joining a Inf Div in France. "You are not here to be killed
    but to kill, do it well and often".
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  • shooter4
    Hell yeah!
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  • TexasVet
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    TexasVet,

    Bombs rarely hit their intended target... and when they don't, they just p!$$ off all the wrong people, namely, the ones we're supposedly there to help.

    Now those areas described might make pretty good targets for the Marines and the various special forces we have at our disposal, however.[;)][:D]


    You're right, John -- but there ain't nuthin' like a couple MOABs to soften things up!
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    joeaf,
    quote:Please show me where and when the actual Military in Iraq requested "Imbedded reporters".
    Here goes:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/dod/embed.html

    quote:2. POLICY.

    2.A. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD) POLICY ON MEDIA COVERAGE OF FUTURE MILITARY OPERATIONS IS THAT MEDIA WILL HAVE LONG-TERM, MINIMALLY RESTRICTIVE ACCESS TO U.S. AIR, GROUND AND NAVAL FORCES THROUGH EMBEDDING. MEDIA COVERAGE OF ANY FUTURE OPERATION WILL, TO A LARGE EXTENT, SHAPE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY ENVIRONMENT NOW AND IN THE YEARS AHEAD. THIS HOLDS TRUE FOR THE U.S. PUBLIC; THE PUBLIC IN ALLIED COUNTRIES WHOSE OPINION CAN AFFECT THE DURABILITY OF OUR COALITION; AND PUBLICS IN COUNTRIES WHERE WE CONDUCT OPERATIONS, WHOSE PERCEPTIONS OF US CAN AFFECT THE COST AND DURATION OF OUR INVOLVEMENT. OUR ULTIMATE STRATEGIC SUCCESS IN BRINGING PEACE AND SECURITY TO THIS REGION WILL COME IN OUR LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO SUPPORTING OUR DEMOCRATIC IDEALS. WE NEED TO TELL THE FACTUAL STORY - GOOD OR BAD - BEFORE OTHERS SEED THE MEDIA WITH DISINFORMATION AND DISTORTIONS, AS THEY MOST CERTAINLY WILL CONTINUE TO DO. OUR PEOPLE IN THE FIELD NEED TO TELL OUR STORY - ONLY COMMANDERS CAN ENSURE THE MEDIA GET TO THE STORY ALONGSIDE THE TROOPS. WE MUST ORGANIZE FOR AND FACILITATE ACCESS OF NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA TO OUR FORCES, INCLUDING THOSE FORCES ENGAGED IN GROUND OPERATIONS, WITH THE GOAL OF DOING SO RIGHT FROM THE START. TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE WILL EMBED MEDIA WITH OUR UNITS. THESE EMBEDDED MEDIA WILL LIVE, WORK AND TRAVEL AS PART OF THE UNITS WITH WHICH THEY ARE EMBEDDED TO FACILITATE MAXIMUM, IN-DEPTH COVERAGE OF U.S. FORCES IN COMBAT AND RELATED OPERATIONS. COMMANDERS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICERS MUST WORK TOGETHER TO BALANCE THE NEED FOR MEDIA ACCESS WITH THE NEED FOR OPERATIONAL SECURITY.

    Sounds like a request to me.
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  • Rack Ops
    While the war may have not been sanctioned by the U.N, a think a legal justification could be found in the cease-fire agreement after the Desert Storm.

    I looked around for a copy of the agreement, but couldn't find anything.
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