Well I hope the tree huggers are happy now ? ? ?
Used to be you never heard of a coyote in Virginia. Now they're all over the farkeling place. What's next? Wolves? Cougars?
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coyotes are the one animal any rancher or person owning hunting land will let us hunt any time we want. half of the cattle ranchers in north dakota have been calling us (me and a couple of friends from work) asking us to help them with there coyote problems. works out good for us because some of them offer to let us hunt there land during deer season. wish they would offer us to hunt pheasent too. but hey i'll take what i can get. i would do it for nothing because i enjoy hunting coyote but hey if they offer. 0 -
...around here yotes have always been a problem.
...5-10 years ago you had to drive HOURS south of me to find big hogs to hunt, no more. Overrun with the dang things as they have widened their range a great deal!
...Have no idea why, I shoot 'em, keep the 100 lb or smaller ones...and rid the pastures of the really big several hundred pound "hole diggers"...tear a pasture up overnight!...[;)]
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I have lived my entire life in close proximity to coyotes. I have never heard of a nonrabid coyote attacking or threatening a human if it were not trapped or cornered. I have seen coyote pups raised as pets. I have seen the results of the breeding of dogs and coyotes. I have seen coyotes kill small calves.
They are a very adaptable animal that can live comfortably in close proximity to humans. They can be a scourage to livestockmen. They are a substantial threat to those that raise sheep and goats.
When the government trappers were forced to cease the use of the cynide traps, the population (in this part of the world) expanded rapidly. Stockmen hunt them with dogs, with planes, with helicopters, and any other means available to keep the numbers under control. However, we definitely do not want an introduction of wolves to control the coyotes. A wolf population would be much worse.
For those who would like more coyotes where you live, wish I could convince some here to go there.0 -
..."beautiful" animals? Yeah, their sweet too, all snuggly!
...They will wear a rancher out, especially at spring calving time; kill the cow and calf...they will eat the azz end from the mamma, aint a pretty sight...[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by COLT
..."beautiful" animals? Yeah, their sweet too, all snuggly!
...They will wear a rancher out, especially at spring calving time; kill the cow and calf...they will eat the azz end from the mamma, aint a pretty sight...[;)]
I have always admired coyotes for their adaptability and cunning. I've been known to watch them for long moments, wondering just how far-ranging and adventurous that particular song-dog must be. Then I usually drop hammer and snuff its fuzzy ass.0 -
jamesrk, wouldn't it be the other way around? The NON tree huggers that keep chopping woodlands down to build houses and wal-mart. I don't know much about tree huggers but don't they believe in preserving forests and animals and stuff like that? That's like blaming condoms for the rise in population. You just won the Jack ass award for that one.
Plus, tree huggers try to save the woods YOU HUNT IN from Turds like wal-mart and home depot and developers so lets not knife the tree huggers just yet.0 -
quote:Originally posted by renneck
jamesrk, wouldn't it be the other way around? The NON tree huggers that keep chopping woodlands down to build houses and wal-mart. I don't know much about tree huggers but don't they believe in preserving forests and animals and stuff like that? That's like blaming condoms for the rise in population. You just won the Jack ass award for that one.
Plus, tree huggers try to save the woods YOU HUNT IN from Turds like wal-mart and home depot and developers so lets not knife the tree huggers just yet.
you been drinking again[:D][:0]0 -
naw, but maybe i need a beer[;)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by renneck
naw, but maybe i need a beer[;)]
beer and chicken theres an idea,about those roosters? get an email?[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by He Dog
quote:Another thing about coyotes is that they are able to breed with domesticated dogs. A coy-dog is even more dangerous than a coyote, especially if they are born to a domesticated mother. They don't have the fear of humans, but still have the wild side.
That is a myth. Coyote and dog genetics do not match up well, and the authenticated occurances of actual "coydogs" are scant despite the wide spread folklore about coydogs.
Wolves can interbreed with dogs much more readily, the genttics do match up, but this too rarely occurs because of differences in behavior, what are called pre-copulatory isolating mechanisms, that keep them breeding with their own species.
Naturally occuring wolf-coyote hybirds have occured in the wild, and result in the wolf variety called the "red wolf" of the Southeastern US. Not as subspeices at all, just a fertile hybrid.
The last of the red wolves was in SE Texas from south and north of Beaumont into the Big Thicket areas of the Neches River and its tributaries. As a kid, I'd see trappers with as many as twenty or more of them with hide still on. The Red Wolf never did go extinct there as has been reported, but they did become somewhat of a rare find. A few of them were taken from The Big Thicket to an Island off SC where they were permitted to reproduce. I've heard that some have been placed into the Great Northwest since.0 -
That sounds about right Kimi, they were not extinct but were considered endangered and a management program was together for them. When the DNA work revealed their hybrid origins, that was quietly scrapped. They are pretty though. 0 -
Thanks for the hybrid note HeDog. They are very pretty animals, indeed, small and stout. Why would anyone scrap their hybrid origin, though? 0 -
They scrapped the recovdery program because the red wolf is not a subspecies of wolf, like the gray or lobo, but a wolf/coyote hybrid. Thus it does not meet the qualifications for an endangered species. It is a naturally occuring hybrid, not a man-made mutt, but still not a species. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by newtgingrich
In the rare event that a coyote attacks you or someone near you, yell at the coyote to make it back off. Don't run away since a coyote can outrun you (unless you can run faster than 30 mph!). (Los Altos Town Crier 7/24/96; Coyote Fact Sheet)
Or....... pull the trigger and kill it!0 -
loko383, i got an email. thank you buddy![;)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
What did the tree huggers have to do with coyotes coming to Virginia?
I thought they just hiked up from Texas.
quote:Originally posted by woodshermit
Tree huggers? Please enlighten us on how you reached that conclusion.
I tend to blame everything on the tree huggers, especially if it has to do with the weather or wildlife. By doing that I'm right about eight out of ten times. If I bothered to think about it, I wouldn't have that good an average.
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I'm happy to accept the risks of living with them.
Most folks willing to accept the risk of this, that or the other are the same folks who don't have to pay the price for the risk.
newtgingrich: Not dangerous? Define dangerous.
OK, they are beautiful animals. I'll give you that.
I don't have a problem with yotes as long as long as they stay in Texas or Canada, but around here they are an expensive nuisance. I'm not in the least worried about being attacked by a yote. I've never been attacked by a roach either, but I don't want them around.
quote:Originally posted by renneck
jamesrk, wouldn't it be the other way around? The NON tree huggers that keep chopping woodlands down to build houses and wal-mart. I don't know much about tree huggers but don't they believe in preserving forests and animals and stuff like that? That's like blaming condoms for the rise in population. You just won the Jack ass award for that one.
Plus, tree huggers try to save the woods YOU HUNT IN from Turds like wal-mart and home depot and developers so lets not knife the tree huggers just yet.
I suspect you must be one of said "Tree Huggers". [:D]
I sold my Happy Hunting Grounds a couple of years ago, but until I did, I mostly hunted my place. All the land surrounding my place was (and is) owned by a PULP WOOD COMPANY. PULP WOOD COMPANY land probably supports more wildlife than all the wilderness combined. Another major support of wildlife is the DREADED FARMER. THE DREADED FARMER and other country folks were conservationists long before the yuppies and socialists decided to show us how it's done.
I think Governor Edwin Edwards pretty well summed it up in 1973 when Florida was pushing for the "Endangered Species Act" to protect alligators. I don't remember his exact quote so I'll paraphrase: I can understand Florida folks wanting to protect their pet gaters and the tourist trade, but over here in Louisiana, we're up to our asses in alligators.0 -
quote:Originally posted by He Dog
They scrapped the recovdery program because the red wolf is not a subspecies of wolf, like the gray or lobo, but a wolf/coyote hybrid. Thus it does not meet the qualifications for an endangered species. It is a naturally occuring hybrid, not a man-made mutt, but still not a species.
Thank you.0 -
He Dog:
I recall a program that released some wolves in the Appalacihans, I think it was here in North Carolina, maybe five to ten years ago.
Were these the "red wolves," the coyote wolf hybrid you are describing?0 -
Allen I think I heard the red wolf is out of mexico.I'll have to check to be sure. 0 -
allen griggs: To be fair, it's not just the "Tree Huggers" doing the bonehead stuff. About a hundred years or so ago, some nonresident hunters thought it would be cool to do some English style fox hunting in Randolph County. They imported foxes and turned them loose. A few of the foxes were better at fox hunting than the nonresident hunters. I don't think it's as bad now as it used to be, but in the 1950s and into the 1960s, Randolph, Guilford and Forsyth Counties were overrun with foxes. 0
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