Light Duty 4.5-liter Duramax
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This link should work...
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/15/gm-announces-clean-diesel-v8-for-pickups-and-the-hummer-h2/0 -
GM has had a bad history with the small V8 diesels, the 350, then the 6.2. I didn't trust the Duramax when it first came out just because of GM's past reputation (and I am a GM fan), but it has worked out for them.
I still would be hesitant to tryout an new GM diesel engine unless it had another diesel manufacturer name with associated with it.
I remember once in the early 90's John Deere was attempting to enter the medium duty truck engine market, but the attempt sort of died. I never understood why exactly.0 -
Might have had something to do with the fact that for a little while, Deere didn't even use it's own engines in it's high horsepower tractors, which at various points in history have shared components with road tractors. Deere isn't all that great with engines. They often have poor fuel economy relative to the competition, even though they are cheap.
I've seen some things that indicate that Deere will be outsourcing more engine designs in the future, as well.0 -
I think that GM learned a lot when it got together with Bosch and Isuzu and made the first DuraMax. Although I would always stay away from a first year whatever (till they get the kinks out), this one has a good chance of being a good one.
They don't say what tranny they will be offering with the little diesel. Maybe a scaled down version of the Allison?0 -
I want to put one in my jeep. Can you see it a 1989 jeep wrangler passing you on the all the passes pulling a 30' goose neck trailer. I might have to put some counter weights up frint to keep it from tipping back over the top. 0 -
Ive been looking for a mid size Diesel to stick in my 63 willys station wagon this is just the ticket Ill bet they will have a nice allison tranny to match up with it in a while too 0 -
Can you imagine what this thing would do with a bullydog treatment or simular?Two words for ya fellas.......little screamer...Damn straight 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
GM has had a bad history with the small V8 diesels, the 350, then the 6.2. I didn't trust the Duramax when it first came out just because of GM's past reputation (and I am a GM fan), but it has worked out for them.
I still would be hesitant to tryout an new GM diesel engine unless it had another diesel manufacturer name with associated with it.
I remember once in the early 90's John Deere was attempting to enter the medium duty truck engine market, but the attempt sort of died. I never understood why exactly.
The 350 Olds diesel was a dud because it was based on the gas 350 and the heads couldn't withstand the pressure. The 6.2 was an old oil burning Detroit, low on power but they run forever and damn near bullet proof, take the early Humvee's for example.0 -
quote:Originally posted by agman1999
Might have had something to do with the fact that for a little while, Deere didn't even use it's own engines in it's high horsepower tractors, which at various points in history have shared components with road tractors. Deere isn't all that great with engines. They often have poor fuel economy relative to the competition, even though they are cheap.
I've seen some things that indicate that Deere will be outsourcing more engine designs in the future, as well.
You must be talking about the 6 and 8 cylinder Deere engines. I have had three 3 cylinder and one 4 cylinder JD tractors and the engines were bullet proof. The one I've got now (2030) made in 1974 has over 7000 hrs. on it. I think their problems were with the turbo charged ones, though I drove a 60's vintage 4000 the other day that ran like a champ.0 -
Why would you buy a light duty toy throw away motor when you could get a Cummins in the Dodge? 0 -
Power and noise. More of one, and less with the other. 0 -
I hope to see it happen. I couldn't imagine having that much torque and horsepower in a half ton pickup. I also wonder how much it'll cost me to have that much torque and horsepower in a half ton pickup. BTW, in RVing circles some of the current Duramax engines have been known to overheat when towing up long grades or mountains. Haven't heard if they've found a fix for it yet. Mike 0 -
Power and noise, very little noise with the new 24 valve engines
check out this ford site , click on Ranger and then click on preformance and it will bring up a picture of a power stroke 3.0 diesel , only problem is it is not sold here in the US , you have to go farther south to get it
https://www.ford.com.br/Default.asp
and this is a picture of the engine
https://www.ford.com.br/images/sr_ranger_pop_motor01.jpg0 -
I love to make a little noise 0 -
quote:I remember once in the early 90's John Deere was attempting to enter the medium duty truck engine market, but the attempt sort of died. I never understood why exactly.
There was a proposed merger of Deere and Detroit. Was called the "DeDec" engine. We were in Vegas at the ConExpo show, must have been in 84 or 85. They had a huge display set up, had engines on stands and the whole 9 yards. Even got a bunch of literature and a couple of "DeDec" ball caps around here somewhere. It just sort of faded away after a few years. Don't know if they ever got to production or not. When Detroit came out with their Series 60 engines, they were putting a world of hurt on Cummins and Cat. Great engines! Now try to find a big truck from the factory with a Detroit engine. You can't. Volvo is running all their own engines and Cat and Cummins rule the rest. You can still get a Detroit as a power plant on crushers and the like, and they do great there.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
Why would you buy a light duty toy throw away motor when you could get a Cummins in the Dodge?
Because you have to buy a Dodge to get a Cummins...[:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
quote:I remember once in the early 90's John Deere was attempting to enter the medium duty truck engine market, but the attempt sort of died. I never understood why exactly.
There was a proposed merger of Deere and Detroit. Was called the "DeDec" engine. We were in Vegas at the ConExpo show, must have been in 84 or 85. They had a huge display set up, had engines on stands and the whole 9 yards. Even got a bunch of literature and a couple of "DeDec" ball caps around here somewhere. It just sort of faded away after a few years. Don't know if they ever got to production or not. When Detroit came out with their Series 60 engines, they were putting a world of hurt on Cummins and Cat. Great engines! Now try to find a big truck from the factory with a Detroit engine. You can't. Volvo is running all their own engines and Cat and Cummins rule the rest. You can still get a Detroit as a power plant on crushers and the like, and they do great there.
Know that you mention it, the literature I was picked up had the Detroit logo on it.
I don't know, but I always thought the John Deere engines from the 80's and early 90's were good motors but a little under powered. I realize this is 2007, but with the exception Deere intentionally under powering the engine, I thought they made a very good motor. THat would have worked well in medium buty trucks.
Perhaps Detroit and Deere just wasn't a good fit.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcso3009
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
Why would you buy a light duty toy throw away motor when you could get a Cummins in the Dodge?
Because you have to buy a Dodge to get a Cummins...[:D]
200,000 miles on mine and still chugging along just fine. After driving Fords for 22 years I got the Dodge V-10 dually in 97. It was a BLAST to drive. Then I traded it in on the 2000 diesel I have now. It has been the most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
quote:Originally posted by dcso3009
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
Why would you buy a light duty toy throw away motor when you could get a Cummins in the Dodge?
Because you have to buy a Dodge to get a Cummins...[:D]
200,000 miles on mine and still chugging along just fine. After driving Fords for 22 years I got the Dodge V-10 dually in 97. It was a BLAST to drive. Then I traded it in on the 2000 diesel I have now. It has been the most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned.
I don't dispute the Cummins is the star of the diesel engines on the road in this size truck. I just don't care for the truck wraped around it. I will give credit on the seats in Dodge trucks... Most comfortable I have ever sat in. But they have to be that way when the suspension is so stiff.0
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