Neighbor: un-freaking-believeable!
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OK: All the drug-seeking behavior went down on Saturday, and I informed building management on Saturday that I wasn't comfortable with it.
The burglary report from my neighbor happened on Sunday. Neighbor said he was going to raise holy hell with building management on Monday.
On Monday, I asked neighbor about this and he said that he'd contacted management about a loud party BUT NOT ABOUT THE BURGLARY! (Uhhh, ok.....so a loud party is more offensive to you than the fact that your next door neighbor burglarized you?) At that point I asked him if he or I was going to call MGMT, because it had to be done. He assured me he would call them.
I went home and called them anyway, left a message and said I had a pressing concern. I got a callback today. Management told me that they had indeed heard from my burglarized neighbor, and did this kind of behavior from the burglar come out of the blue? I said that we hadn't seen problems before, but no, it didn't come out of the blue because this guy has a criminal record. Well, asks management, does he have a history of violence....like, is he a threat to others (because that's what management is really concerned about)?
Hello? He needs to be evicted! Frankly, I didn't tell him that because I was too dumbfounded that eviction wasn't his first instinct. I've since sent him e-mail laying out my position and promising him a phone call tomorrow....my neighbor needs eviction.
Meanwhile, the criminal justice system runs its course (I hope). As of a couple hours ago, our police department still has an open file, with the investigating officer off-duty today. I don't know much about police work, but I find it hard to believe that this case should take much of an investigation. Why have charges not yet been forwarded to the county prosecutor (that's an honest question for any LEO's that can explain to me how an obvious burglary on Saturday still isn't at the prosecutor's office on Tuesday night)?
I've lived here for five years with fear of nothing. Now I have to bleening lock up at night because the guy two doors down is a bleening drug addict. Pissed off, am I.
OK: All the drug-seeking behavior went down on Saturday, and I informed building management on Saturday that I wasn't comfortable with it.
The burglary report from my neighbor happened on Sunday. Neighbor said he was going to raise holy hell with building management on Monday.
On Monday, I asked neighbor about this and he said that he'd contacted management about a loud party BUT NOT ABOUT THE BURGLARY! (Uhhh, ok.....so a loud party is more offensive to you than the fact that your next door neighbor burglarized you?) At that point I asked him if he or I was going to call MGMT, because it had to be done. He assured me he would call them.
I went home and called them anyway, left a message and said I had a pressing concern. I got a callback today. Management told me that they had indeed heard from my burglarized neighbor, and did this kind of behavior from the burglar come out of the blue? I said that we hadn't seen problems before, but no, it didn't come out of the blue because this guy has a criminal record. Well, asks management, does he have a history of violence....like, is he a threat to others (because that's what management is really concerned about)?
Hello? He needs to be evicted! Frankly, I didn't tell him that because I was too dumbfounded that eviction wasn't his first instinct. I've since sent him e-mail laying out my position and promising him a phone call tomorrow....my neighbor needs eviction.
Meanwhile, the criminal justice system runs its course (I hope). As of a couple hours ago, our police department still has an open file, with the investigating officer off-duty today. I don't know much about police work, but I find it hard to believe that this case should take much of an investigation. Why have charges not yet been forwarded to the county prosecutor (that's an honest question for any LEO's that can explain to me how an obvious burglary on Saturday still isn't at the prosecutor's office on Tuesday night)?
I've lived here for five years with fear of nothing. Now I have to bleening lock up at night because the guy two doors down is a bleening drug addict. Pissed off, am I.
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if he is a drug addict why you dont call he cops and say you witnessed drug activity ? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
if he is a drug addict why you dont call he cops and say you witnessed drug activity ?
If you read the original post you'll see that I know he's an addict because he used my phone to try and score drugs through his health-care practitioners. When he failed at that, he called 911 and faked something (dunno what) to get himself taken to the ER and got his drugs that way. I did give that info to the police officer who took the burglary report filed by my neighbor--but if what he was doing was illegal, it's difficult to prove (who can say if another person is in pain, or merely faking?).
So the short answer is: I have not observed this guy doing anything blatantly illegal, although the evidence that he burglarized my neighbor is close to irrefutable.0 -
Had something like this happen many years ago. Drug addict bulgered a neighbor's home. He stole two firearms and was caught. The authorties gave him probation. Later it was found out he was a informant for the cops so they gave him the light sentence to keep him on the street. If your guy's fellow druggies find out he is also getting off easy they will probably think he is also a informant and evict him their own special way. 0 -
you should have moved to Athens...nice and peaceful..hope your problems get jailed soon..good luck, Loko [;)] 0 -
Originally posted by LOKO383
you should have moved to Athens...nice and peaceful.
Well, yeah, but Greece is so far away, and full of killer wild fires right now.[:D][:D][:D]0 -
put some powder sugar in the middle of the road maybe he will go after it and get hit by a car.
if not, it will still be funny thinking about it.
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As long as he pays his rent, managment couldn't care less what he does. Time to move. 0 -
Why don't you just tell the thief that the complex manager has a bunch of drugs and valuables in his apartment. That should take care of the problem shortly... 0 -
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
you should have moved to Athens...nice and peaceful..hope your problems get jailed soon..good luck, Loko [;)]
There's another post around here somewhere....I had a phone interview for that position yesterday and will have a job offer (or not) within a couple weeks. If I move, it'll be in January.0 -
quote:Originally posted by GUNFUNCO
Why don't you just tell the thief that the complex manager has a bunch of drugs and valuables in his apartment. That should take care of the problem shortly...
I'm liking that idea!0 -
Before everyone gets their panties in a twist.. I want to say a few things. Building management are not Police. They cannot arrest, they cannot boot out a tenant because of a burglary or drugs. If the tenant goes to jail and doesn't pay rent or uphold their end of a rental agreement that is another issue. Only issue Management would have is that if they had knowledge of drug behavior or prior criminal activity. Lay off of management it is not their issue. Not yet. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Before everyone gets their panties in a twist.. I want to say a few things. Building management are not Police. They cannot arrest, they cannot boot out a tenant because of a burglary or drugs. If the tenant goes to jail and doesn't pay rent or uphold their end of a rental agreement that is another issue. Only issue Management would have is that if they had knowledge of drug behavior or prior criminal activity. Lay off of management it is not their issue. Not yet.
I must disagree - If a tenant robs another tenant, I am pretty sure they can immediately evict the tenant. That has to violate some terms of the rental agreement. Even if this is not in the tenant agreement, I am sure a judge would side with the landlord and sign the eviction papers.0 -
Do you have a video camera? If i were you, i'd get one, and be on the lookout for anything illegal, and film it. Then march down to the police station. He doesn't need to be evicted if he's sitting in jail. 0 -
Eviction is not a quick easy process. A landlord cannot simply say Spurgemaster, we don't like you, or we think you are really a blonde, or we think you use drugs, so beat feet. It has to go through court and takes time. If his lease were up, they could decline to renew. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
...the evidence that he burglarized my neighbor is close to irrefutable.Just a couple of scenarios:
"The CD's and stuff? Oh, I bought all that off a guy that was hanging around here yesterday."
"I don't know anything about that stuff. Talk to my room-mate that turned it over to you when you started banging on the door and screaming. He's trying to put it off on me."
From what you've related I agree he's probably guilty as sin. However, the burden of proof for prosecution isn't, "the majority of the evidence indicates". It's, "beyond a reasonable doubt". Without physical evidence don't expect a prosecutor to take the case until the checks start showing up and they can either compare handwriting or have him on camera passing them.
quote:Originally posted by GUNFUNCO
Why don't you just tell the thief that the complex manager has a bunch of drugs and valuables in his apartment. That should take care of the problem shortly...Double your odds.
"Anytime I need a Vicodin I go talk to the manager. He's got a bad back and has a steady script for them. He doesn't like to hand them out or even admit he has them if he doesn't know you well, but he always has a whole bunch on hand."
....and then set your camera up on his apartment.[:D]0 -
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quote:Originally posted by Jacob2008
put some powder sugar in the middle of the road maybe he will go after it and get hit by a car.
if not, it will still be funny thinking about it.
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quote:Originally posted by slipgate
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Before everyone gets their panties in a twist.. I want to say a few things. Building management are not Police. They cannot arrest, they cannot boot out a tenant because of a burglary or drugs. If the tenant goes to jail and doesn't pay rent or uphold their end of a rental agreement that is another issue. Only issue Management would have is that if they had knowledge of drug behavior or prior criminal activity. Lay off of management it is not their issue. Not yet.
I must disagree - If a tenant robs another tenant, I am pretty sure they can immediately evict the tenant. That has to violate some terms of the rental agreement. Even if this is not in the tenant agreement, I am sure a judge would side with the landlord and sign the eviction papers.
Actually you are wrong. Tenant could and might end up in jail. Then they post bond and come back home. OR as in SC.. ( I have no choice as a Landlord ) IF a tenant goes to jail, the rental agreement stays in effect and the Landlord eats the cost of the non use of the unit till the Tenant gets back out of jail. This could be screwed up if they got 5-10 years for a robbery. Well just in case that happens I will put their goods in storage and re rent the place. However the Landlord may not make up rules to set out a tenant for civil or criminal actions. Heck if their rent is paid another party or relative could come in and live there. Now that would be if they are on a lease. Month to Month would be different. Notice could be given for last time rent accepted on a monthly and they have 30 days to move.
GW.. The Landlord0 -
Boy I miss the good old days, When a ski mask and a baseball bat would fix your problem right up.[:(!][:(!][:D] 0 -
...If your worried that the druggie actually did the burglary, and your afraid you could be next...go have a heart to heart with the druggie.
...Explain to him you think he is a criminal. Explain to him if YOU are burglarized you will consider him the person responsible and you will not call the cops; instead you will come find him, rip his head off and poop down his neck and skull bleen him, in no uncertain terms...[;)]
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quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
you should have moved to Athens...nice and peaceful..hope your problems get jailed soon..good luck, Loko [;)]
There's another post around here somewhere....I had a phone interview for that position yesterday and will have a job offer (or not) within a couple weeks. If I move, it'll be in January.
cool..get a hold of me if you get the job..Jan..bbbrrrr bring your cold weather gear..[;)]..GOOD LUCK!..Loko [^]0 -
When in Chicago in the 70's I noticed they would burn them out of Cabrini Green and the Horner complex....I'm just sayin' [;)] 0 -
Select, since I know you know a little about the rental business, thanks for the input. As a tenant, I still think it's worth putting a little pressure on management if for no other reason than to encourage them to do a little bit more by way of vetting new tenants (my landlord doesn't even ask for a reference before renting--which might explain why I refer to my apartment building as the 'ghettoplex').
Everybody else, also thanks for your input. First off, although it's hilarious to think about sicking this druggie on the apartment manager, he's not going to go for it. He pretty much knows who's after his butt already. Second, as satisfying as it would be to tell this kid that if anything happens to my possessions I'm going to do stuff to his neck and head, I've had a little--but still enough--difficulty with the law myself; I really don't need a terroristic threats charge, nor an assault and battery charge to add to my resume. Finally, like most drug users, this kid is not the sharpest tool in the shed: he's already admitted to the burglary, to the investigating police officer.
So I think my course of action is to harass building management (sorry, Select) and to stay on the investigating officer to finish the damned report and forward it to the prosecutor's office. I only need this kid to get about 90 days of jail time and I'll never have to worry about him again (I expect to move within that time-frame). Meanwhile, I'm doing enhanced security in my apartment....meaning I lock the windows. I might yet move most of my fire-arms to the home of a friend who lives far away and has a good safe.....I haven't quite decided on that one yet.0 -
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
quote:Originally posted by LOKO383
you should have moved to Athens...nice and peaceful..hope your problems get jailed soon..good luck, Loko [;)]
There's another post around here somewhere....I had a phone interview for that position yesterday and will have a job offer (or not) within a couple weeks. If I move, it'll be in January.
cool..get a hold of me if you get the job..Jan..bbbrrrr bring your cold weather gear..[;)]..GOOD LUCK!..Loko [^]
lol. Thanks for that Loko; I'll be in touch if I wind up in your neck of the woods. But cold weather gear? Dude, I was born in South Africa and moved when I was eleven to Minnesota, then there were a bunch more moves (including a year in eastern ND--can you say cold wind?), and now I'm in eastern WA. I'm not too concerned about the weather in OH!0
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