What reasons can I give?
I work with a lot of guys who have never shot, handled, or owned a firearm other than the training we do here. Whenever one of them says he's thinking about buying a handgun, I pipe up and tell them I recommend they buy a used revolver in .38 Spl or .357 Magnum. If they don't think they'd be comfortable firing the .357, they could load it with .38 Spl and later use .357 as they become accustomed to shooting more. Every one of these guys has told me "No Way" on buying a revolver. I have my own ideas about why this is, but what do some of you long-time shooters have to say and what advice can you give me regarding recommending revolvers over semiautos??
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none really no matter how you cut it, if they don't want one, main thing is to get them to buy what they feel comfortable with, then once their bit open their world to other firearms 0 -
I'm not such a long-time shooter (ten years) and I really wasn't interested in a revolver for my first gun. But a wise man talked me into a S&W 686-5, which was my first gun and now is my favorite handgun. Not the spendiest, not the sexiest, not the prettiest, just the favorite.
Revolvers just don't seem as cool as semi-auto's. I allowed myself to be talked out of the semi-auto once I realized how poor my control of the gun was, and once I realized that a revolver would (as he said) be a much safer first gun for me than a semi. I didn't get a semi-auto handgun until a little over a year ago.0 -
A revolver rarely jams...you can usually just keep pulling the trigger...
If a semi jams,..you have to have someone there who knows what the heck they are doing to "un jam" it...0 -
Almost none of these guys are natural shooters or confident shooters and most have said that if they buy an auto and keep it in the house, they have it loaded with the safety on but no round in the chamber. I've tried to tell them that if the doodoo hits the fan, it's gonna happen at the worst possible time (when they're asleep and groggy) and they may forget to disengage the safety and chamber a round, thus maybe costing them or a family member their lives. Double-action revolver won't have those problems. 0 -
Here ya go:
Tell them that if they buy a hammerless revolver, they can fire it from their pants or purse.
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From a safety stand point, I have seen more AD's with semi auto's than DA wheel gun's.
quote:I've tried to tell them that if the doodoo hits the fan, it's gonna happen at the worst possible time (when they're asleep and groggy) and they may forget to disengage the safety and chamber a round, thus maybe costing them or a family member their lives. Double-action revolver won't have those problems.
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Men rarely if ever choose practical over sexy. 0 -
it takes less than .2 seconds to load the chamber, i keep a g36 loaded in a holster under my bed attached to the rail, just in case someone else stumbles across it
some argue that that extra step may save a life in the occurrence of a bad dream or sleep walking, and i feel that if i'm not awake by time someone enter my bedroom that extra 20/100th of a second i would loose by having it loaded isn't going to help0 -
There's nothing wrong with starting someone out with a semi-auto. Some people just don't care for revolvers and others love them. They both have their up's and downs. I have shot revolvers before but have never owned one. The one thing about a revolver is that you don't have to worry about the gun jamming, Unless the cylinder wasn't properly aligned which is rare. Their dependable and there's no safety's to fuss with. Why try to sell them on a revolver if they don't want anything to do with them. There are semi-auto's out there that are fast, accurate and dependable. I say whatever floats the person boat... revolver or semi go for it. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by watrulookinat
There's nothing wrong with starting someone out with a semi-auto. Some people just don't care for revolvers and others love them. They both have their up's and downs. I have shot revolvers before but have never owned one. The one thing about a revolver is that you don't have to worry about the gun jamming, Unless the cylinder wasn't properly aligned which is rare. Their dependable and there's no safety's to fuss with. Why try to sell them on a revolver if they don't want anything to do with them. There are semi-auto's out there that are fast, accurate and dependable. I say whatever floats the person boat... revolver or semi go for it.
Well, truth be told, these guys SUCK at shooting semiautos. In timed drills, some forget to disengage the decocker (Beretta 96), on chambering a round they engage the decocker, and other times they fumble around.0 -
Let em , shoot a Glock.[:D] 0 -
Screw 'em. If they think a Beretta 96 or a Glock is more desireable than a Smif 'n' Wesson, Colt, or Ruger wheelgun, then let 'em, and leave the good guns for those of us who appreciate them.
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quote:Originally posted by Glock23Expert
I work with a lot of guys who have never shot, handled, or owned a firearm other than the training we do here. Whenever one of them says he's thinking about buying a handgun, I pipe up and tell them I recommend they buy a used revolver in .38 Spl or .357 Magnum. If they don't think they'd be comfortable firing the .357, they could load it with .38 Spl and later use .357 as they become accustomed to shooting more. Every one of these guys has told me "No Way" on buying a revolver. I have my own ideas about why this is, but what do some of you long-time shooters have to say and what advice can you give me regarding recommending revolvers over semiautos??
For the untrained first time gun buyer the revolver is a good choice for home protection. That has been kicked to death in all gun forums.
Cheaper, more reliable, ease of use, less maintenance all the arguments that Nunn put forth in another thread about this same subject.
Offer the advice and add that they might go to a range where they can rent guns and try several different types to enable them to make a more educated choice.
Many people watch too much TV and see everyone blasting away like in full auto mode and they want a weapon that will do that too! Reality will creep up on them at the range when they get some hands on experience with revolvers vs pistols.0 -
Novice shooters want semis purely because the movies tell them to.
I have a friend - close friend - that has been like a Brother to me since 1961.
He lives in California and wanted my recommendation for a sidearm.
We have spoken many times at length on the subject, and he still wants an auto.
I tried to give him a Model 66, and he turned it down.
He still has no sidearm, and it may cost him or someone in the family, life itself.
Pray for them.
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Very curious...
One might presume you'd be prone to recommend a Glock 23?
When asked, I always suggest the .357 revolver as well, but it seems to me the whole point of these glockenspiel era guns with DAO/safe action/DAK/whatever the hell triggers is to make a semi as simple to operate as a revolver, i.e. grab gun, pull trigger.
quote:Originally posted by Glock23Expert
I work with a lot of guys who have never shot, handled, or owned a firearm other than the training we do here. Whenever one of them says he's thinking about buying a handgun, I pipe up and tell them I recommend they buy a used revolver in .38 Spl or .357 Magnum. If they don't think they'd be comfortable firing the .357, they could load it with .38 Spl and later use .357 as they become accustomed to shooting more. Every one of these guys has told me "No Way" on buying a revolver. I have my own ideas about why this is, but what do some of you long-time shooters have to say and what advice can you give me regarding recommending revolvers over semiautos??
I've found that to be a major problem raht dere. If they ask for help, offer it and let them take it or leave it, but jumping in with advice usually just makes you the over-eager gun nut/Soldier Of Fortune wannabe/guy to be nick-named Cliff (from Cheers). Saying that if they don't stash their piece the way you would they'll all die a horrible death don't help neither.
BTW, this attitude of your co-workers that they aren't going to do any more training than they're absolutely required to do, or are paid to do, is very common with LE types. There are individual officers who think differently, of course, but as far as a dept. thing, the one group that I saw that was into training and bettering themselves to the point of competing in matches on their own were the DOE cops from LLNL. Is that pretty much your gig?
And what's the deal, do your co-workers have issue weapons that they aren't allowed to take home?0 -
Get a dummy round for a pistol and a revolver. Load the gun so the first shot is a dummy round. Show them the tap, rack, bang vs. pull again method of dealing with a round that does not fire. 0
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