model 700 300RUM
I just Replaced my 7mm Elk Rifle with a Model 700 In a 300RUM. Well a Guy I elk hunted with said this Rifle is worthless Hunting Elk, Ive Killed Several Elk With a 300 Win Mag. I admit I havnt herd Herd of seen the Rum until I bought This one, Whats the Difference. I have over $1,000 Bucks in this Gun with a 4.5x14x50 scope. Any Feedback I will be Greatful
0
-
I think the guy you were hunting with just has to have something to beat his gums about. 0 -
He wants one but his wife won't let him buy another gun. 0 -
I have the .338 RUM model 700. It is a super accurate rifle. At 200 yards, it shoots groups comparable to what most shoot at 100 yds. The 300 RUM is an excellent round for elk. It is best suited for the bigger game animals. Enjoy. You got a helluva good rifle. 0 -
I think the 300 rum would make a great elk(or whatever else you wanted to drop)rifle.My son tried ours out at a 1,000 yd shoot and it preformed ok.Good luck on your new gun and I think you are going to like it.Al[;)] 0 -
you got more power than he does,..he is talking smack. 0 -
here's my 300rum model 700.
you be the judge [;)]
shoots groups like this at 200yds using Superior Ammo 180gr scirocco0 -
quote:Originally posted by searchwiser
I just Replaced my 7mm Elk Rifle with a Model 700 In a 300RUM. Well a Guy I elk hunted with said this Rifle is worthless Hunting Elk, Ive Killed Several Elk With a 300 Win Mag. I admit I havnt herd Herd of seen the Rum until I bought This one, Whats the Difference. I have over $1,000 Bucks in this Gun with a 4.5x14x50 scope. Any Feedback I will be Greatful
A. The "guy you hunt elk with" is an idiot.................and an a$$h@le to boot!
B. There is no comparison between the .300 Win Mag and the .300 R.U.M..............except the .308 cal projectile[}:)]
C. If you got $1k in the entire rig, including a QUALITY scope, you're doing okay [:)]
As Shaq might say, "the R.U.M.'s are the baddest guns on da'planet of earf!"*LOL*, IMHO0 -
searchwiser,
Did he happen to state why your rifle is worthless for hunting elk? My other question would be why you bought the rifle in the first place for over $1,000 without knowing anything about the cartridge and its performance? I know it doesn't matter why since you already own it but I'm curious.
I own and shoot all three RUM cartridges; .300, .338, .375 and they are all excellent cartridges with terrific performance. They're a little stout for the average hunter but then the average hunter isn't an avid, dedicated Elk Hunter either! If you hunt in terrain anywhere similar to what I do, the RUM will be a benefit for shots that can range from 100 yards to 500 yards. Not that other cartridge won't perform at those ranges but they will do it hands down with a bunch of energy.
What your hunting buddy fails to realize is the available potential energy and velocity that can be achieved with the RUM case and with a wide variety of heavier bullets. This translates into a significantly higher level of performance than what can be achieved by the .300 Win. Mag. There is no question about this and there are no exceptions. Plain old physics and ballistics are all the proof you need, check any reloading manual.
Example:
180 gr. Nosler Partition measured at the muzzle
300 WM = 3040 FPS / 3700 ft.lbs.
300 RUM = 3250 FPS / 4220 ft.lbs.
Best.0 -
quote:Originally posted by MN Hunter
here's my 300rum model 700.
you be the judge [;)]
shoots groups like this at 200yds using Superior Ammo 180gr scirocco
MN hunter,That is a nice looking outfit you got there. My .338 RUM shoots similar groups at 200 yards. I just don't have such a fancy scope on mine. sure does look cool though![8D]0 -
His remark was the 300Rum was Made For Swat Teams and So Have you, He said the gun was Made to shot Longer Range Then the 300Win and Have Less Take Down power, When I bought it It was Listed as a 300Win when I got it It Said 300Rum. I took 7 Elk with my Old 300Win mag, And 4 With my 7mm and All Shots were 200-300 Yards and I Never got a One Shot Clean Kill with the 7mm and Did 6 Of 7 Times with the 300WinMag I had. My Only Question is whats the Difference in the 300Rum and the 300Win 0 -
quote:whats the Difference in the 300Rum and the 300Win
Near as I can tell, about 200fps mv over the 300 Win. with a 180 grain bullet.0 -
searchwiser,
You can produce a simple comparison between the two cartridges by going to the Remington website and using their Ballistics Comparison charts:
http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/
This is a simple plug-in and play type of comparison that will show him just how wrong he is. The more powderful cartridge (300 RUM) will have more "take down" power, if that's the term he wants to use, than most other cartridges he could come up with. He really doesn't know what he's talking about.
Do some searching on the internet for load data for the 300 RUM if you're still not convinced. If he's not convinced, forget him and move on to more intelligent hunters/friends.
Best.0 -
As long as the recoil doesn't bother you the 300 RUM will do everything the 300 WM will do but with a larger margin for human error. If you start to flinch the extra power won't matter one bit. I've posted on here several times that the best way to hunt elk is to push a 30 cal 180 gr bullet as fast as you shoulder will allow. The 300 RUM is awesome but more recoil than I can stand.
BTW I don't think you buddy has any idea what he is talking about.
Welcome to the forum. Nice to see another dedicated elk hunter.0 -
Searchwiser,
I am a big fan of the 300 weatherby and own one now and have owned 2 others the 300 weatherby was considered to be a perfect elk cartrige as much as I hate to admit it the 300 rum has more potential when it is hand loaded. with factory ammo they are even if you use remington for the rum and weatherby ammo for the weatherby. the 300 win mag is a great round but does not compare0 -
Great choice
The 300RUM is one of my favorites I do custom rifle finishes for Long shot rifles check out there web site He builds Many 1000 to 1500 yard bench rifles wow and even chambered in 300RUM
See Ya John<{{{><0 -
My personal opinion is that the 300 RUM is a bit into diminishing returns with regard to powder space, the addition of 20 grains of powder being necessary to gain the 200 fps. But it is a very workable cartridge. A hunting buddy of mine used a 30-06 for years, but a few years ago got a 300RUM, and has gotten a Washington Moose and a few good sized elk with it. He likes it FINE.
For the RUM cartridge I prefer the 375. It has a 28"barrel and I load 250 Sierras for practice, 250 Bitterroots for game. It shoots about the same trajectory as a 130 gr 270 Win. The 300 has about the same trajectory, just a little less authority on target.0 -
Ray B,
The 200 FPS is based on those stumpy little 24" barrels that all the websites like to use for statistics. The RUM really shines when you go with a reasonable length barrel to utilize the powder loaded in that case. Or you can use the slightly faster powders to get the most bang for less powder.
My RUM barrels are 28" and 30" depending on what I use them for. The problem with using those lengths in these explanations is all the folks that will jump on you for using barrels that are too long and hard to carry. My .338 RUM is 28" will equal the oft touted .338 Lapua easily.
Larger cartridges such as the .408 Chey-Tac really need the 36" barrels and that takes them out of the shoulder fired category as far as I'm concerned. So unless you're hunting from a stand or picking spots to shoot prone, they don't work as well in hunting situations.
Best.0 -
My friends 300RUM is a standard M700 Remington and I think the barrel length is 26". My 375RUM is a Winchester M70, that started out life as a 338 Super Grade (new model) that was converted to the RUM case and rebarreled. the barrel as noted is 28". Seems to me that with a Schmidt & Bender 6x scope it weighs about 11 pounds. Carried with one of those slings that hold the rifle in a port-arms position, it can be carried for hours with out much fatigue, provided that climbing is avoided. I prefer the lighter for caliber bullets for it, since the rifle is used on hunts where shots are generally at a minimum of 300 yards on elk, and a 250gr .375 bullet provides even better performance than my previous preference: a 200gr in .338 Win Mag. 0
Please sign in to leave a comment.
Comments
18 comments